Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic

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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't a military sub assist?


How? A “normal” sub cannot dive that deep. And if there are military subs that can and do, I don’t think their governments would want that publicly known.


Military subs can descend to 3000ft. These guys are 12000fy below.

If you think its as simple as sending down a sub to scoop up the capsule or tether a sonar beacon to a submarine and drag it around hoping to detect a ping, then I have a bridge to sell to you.

It would be like flying a kite to catch a space shuttle.


How can a military sub only go to 3000 feet, but these capsules can go to 12,000? Just wondering why the technology is so different.


There's no military application for submarines that can reach 12,000 ft.

Even if we had a sub that could reach it, how would they bring it up to the surface? Especially if it is stuck on some debris or something?


most likely they couldn't bring it up. i guess in searching they are hoping it isn't at the bottom
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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't a military sub assist?


because it takes days to get one there. i think they are trying


I don't believe that - there are subs off the coast all the time. There are subs from other countries as well - why aren't they assisting? It's been days since this started and at least one could have made it there by now.


all i've read is they are trying to get an unmanned vessel to the site but it won't be there until later today.

To what purpose it will be there? Best hope if that they are not too deep in the ocean but floating somewhere where sub can go?


honestly not sure - because they can't really pull the Titan up anyway. But that's what I read


I heard they are in "search" mode. they aren't sure what "rescue" mode would look like. the unmanned vessel would "search"


And they could have traveled WITH a search vessel on board.

How irresponsible to put people in this hazardous environment, with zero exit plan if there was a mishap.


completely agree. where were the backup plans???
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't a military sub assist?


How? A “normal” sub cannot dive that deep. And if there are military subs that can and do, I don’t think their governments would want that publicly known.


Military subs can descend to 3000ft. These guys are 12000fy below.

If you think its as simple as sending down a sub to scoop up the capsule or tether a sonar beacon to a submarine and drag it around hoping to detect a ping, then I have a bridge to sell to you.

It would be like flying a kite to catch a space shuttle.


How can a military sub only go to 3000 feet, but these capsules can go to 12,000? Just wondering why the technology is so different.


Probably a cost/benefit decision. Probably not necessary for 99% of dives.
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Anonymous wrote:wow the problem solving skills on this forum are..special

What do you suggest, have those choppers and aircraft drop the rope and rope it up????


No . There is no solution. This is not something other people can fix. No sub exists that can find them, get to as deep as they are, and haul them up . Let alone in 24 hours which is how much oxygen is left. It’s not a problem to solve. They’re just gonna die.
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Just read what their customers were told (and is STILL up on their website). Exhibit A:

https://oceangate.com/our-subs/titan-submersible.html
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They attach a really strong magnet to a really long rope and go trolling.

/s
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Anonymous wrote:Just read what their customers were told (and is STILL up on their website). Exhibit A:

https://oceangate.com/our-subs/titan-submersible.html


I can't believe their website is still up
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The issue is we don’t even know for sure that Titan is intact at this point. We could be spinning our wheels for nothing here.
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Anonymous wrote:The issue is we don’t even know for sure that Titan is intact at this point. We could be spinning our wheels for nothing here.


Good point. That's the kind of issue we should study more. Like, take a deep dive into the issue and report back.
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Anonymous wrote:The issue is we don’t even know for sure that Titan is intact at this point. We could be spinning our wheels for nothing here.


most likely but what are they supposed to do?
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They didn't put an Air Tag on their submersible?
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Anonymous wrote:The issue is we don’t even know for sure that Titan is intact at this point. We could be spinning our wheels for nothing here.


most likely but what are they supposed to do?

I guess they will call off the search once the O2 runs out, we may never know what happened unfortunately.
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Anonymous wrote:wow the problem solving skills on this forum are..special

What do you suggest, have those choppers and aircraft drop the rope and rope it up????


I suggest doing nothing whatsoever.
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Anonymous wrote:Just read what their customers were told (and is STILL up on their website). Exhibit A:

https://oceangate.com/our-subs/titan-submersible.html


I can't believe their website is still up


It is remarkable how obvious the bullshitting there is.
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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't a military sub assist?


because it takes days to get one there. i think they are trying


I don't believe that - there are subs off the coast all the time. There are subs from other countries as well - why aren't they assisting? It's been days since this started and at least one could have made it there by now.


all i've read is they are trying to get an unmanned vessel to the site but it won't be there until later today.

To what purpose it will be there? Best hope if that they are not too deep in the ocean but floating somewhere where sub can go?


If they see it, then they can stop looking everywhere else.

Personally I don't think they're currently alive. But if they are, they are only save-able if they're on the surface or somehow at a shallow depth. That's why rescuers are looking everywhere, across a huge area: just in case. If we see them on the bottom, we can't save them but at least we know.
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