Moms that were hesitant to get the h1n1 shot for their kids and did....

Anonymous
Give me some moral support! I have been really nervous and resisting getting the vaccine for my 15 month old DS (for a variety of reasons). I decided that I would not get it for him unless I could find the thimerosal free, and that I would not wait in a long line. Sure enough, I got an appt. at Montgomery County clinic on Wednesday (thimerosal free).

I am probably going to go ahead with the appointment, but I am just so nervous. I have so many concerns about the vaccine. For other moms who were nervous about the vaccine, and went ahead and did it, what made your decision for you? Any regrets?
Anonymous
Hi- sorry, wish I could help. Wanted you to know I am in the EXACT same boat. Altho this is for my 2 year old DD (there isn't a thim-free one for my older child) I have an appt for tomorrow and cannot decide what to do. Part of me wants to do it and get it over with- however, then who knows if there will be a booster or if I will want to get it- so part of me thinks "what's the point if they aren't even fully immunized" why 'risk' it? I am not that comfortable with this vaccine at all, but if something happened that I could have tried to prevent, I could never live with myself.

My ped did say the last thing she'd want is for a parent to give their kid a vaccine that they weren't comfortable with because "you can't take it out of their body". A nurse at their office also said if I wasn't sure, don't do it.
However, most of the nurses recommend it without hesitation, and said one is better than none.

I have read some scary stories- about the teen getting GBS, and kids having hives, seizures, etc. but of course many more have died from h1n1 so I think that is the bigger risk. Even though I know this logically, I still feel sick thinking about getting it for them. It's crazy! Let me know what you decide.

Oh- my other thought is it seems to be dying down a bit- but who knows what it will do come Dec, Jan, Feb.

What does your ped or DH say?
Anonymous
OP, I do not understand your fears. WHY are you scared? Have you done your research? If you have, then you know you are doing the right thing for your child.
Anonymous
OP, what research? There is no research on the h1n1 vaccine as it is brand new- even the insert says so. They are basing it on the flu vaccine which is obviously similar, but not exact. I think it's obvious what many people's fears are- it's a brand new vaccine with absolutely no testing.
Anonymous
whoops- meant PP
Anonymous
OP, I was nervous too, and researched it to death. After doing so, I was fairly comfortable with it, even though it was my son's first shot with thimerosal. He had no reaction.

Just read all you can, decide whether the risk of flu outweighs the risk of a vaccine, and then go with your decision. Best wishes.

Anonymous
New poster here -there is no research. The vaccine was not tested on children. Period. There are many reasons to be cautious and while most children will do just fine with the vaccine, some others will not. There is no way of knowing in advance where your child will fall and if there is some predisposition to negative vaccine reactions. There is a reason a VAERS database exists. Go take a look at it. I am so tired of everyone belittling the concerns of parents who wish not to exposure their children to optional vaccines. Then you have the whole one shot v. two shots - WHO says one is enough, CDC says kids need two. THEY DON'T KNOW!

Keep in mind, nobody is even testing for swine flu anymore in the general population (though some testing is being done on people with autoimmmune issues, cancer, etc) so any data coming in is woefully incomplete. How will we even know in the long term if the vaccine worked? A friend of mine's husband was recently hospitalized for swine flu. Well, they didn't initially test for it - and guess what, he never had swine flu (which they finally tested for) but had SEPSIS, which nobody tested for initially because everyone assumed it was swine. The hysteria being created about the swine flu is just incredible. Another friend's daughter was diagnosed with swine - but since they weren't testing for it - was advised to still get the shot just in case. That's just madness. Nobody knows how widespread swine is, if the vaccines (two doses WITH MERCURY) are safe for kids, or if the vaccine is even effective (please, show me that data on which everyone is relying on for this - I don't see it anywhere!)

No swine flu shots for us. Sorry. OP- trust your gut. We all do the best we can.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:New poster here -there is no research. The vaccine was not tested on children. Period. There are many reasons to be cautious and while most children will do just fine with the vaccine, some others will not. There is no way of knowing in advance where your child will fall and if there is some predisposition to negative vaccine reactions. There is a reason a VAERS database exists. Go take a look at it. I am so tired of everyone belittling the concerns of parents who wish not to exposure their children to optional vaccines. Then you have the whole one shot v. two shots - WHO says one is enough, CDC says kids need two. THEY DON'T KNOW!

Keep in mind, nobody is even testing for swine flu anymore in the general population (though some testing is being done on people with autoimmmune issues, cancer, etc) so any data coming in is woefully incomplete. How will we even know in the long term if the vaccine worked? A friend of mine's husband was recently hospitalized for swine flu. Well, they didn't initially test for it - and guess what, he never had swine flu (which they finally tested for) but had SEPSIS, which nobody tested for initially because everyone assumed it was swine. The hysteria being created about the swine flu is just incredible. Another friend's daughter was diagnosed with swine - but since they weren't testing for it - was advised to still get the shot just in case. That's just madness. Nobody knows how widespread swine is, if the vaccines (two doses WITH MERCURY) are safe for kids, or if the vaccine is even effective (please, show me that data on which everyone is relying on for this - I don't see it anywhere!)

No swine flu shots for us. Sorry. OP- trust your gut. We all do the best we can.


OP here. That's the problem. My gut says don't get it. But rationally, I look at the data, risks, etc. and I think I should. It's hard to reconcile those two feelings. Ugh, I hate this!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Hi- sorry, wish I could help. Wanted you to know I am in the EXACT same boat. Altho this is for my 2 year old DD (there isn't a thim-free one for my older child) I have an appt for tomorrow and cannot decide what to do. Part of me wants to do it and get it over with- however, then who knows if there will be a booster or if I will want to get it- so part of me thinks "what's the point if they aren't even fully immunized" why 'risk' it? I am not that comfortable with this vaccine at all, but if something happened that I could have tried to prevent, I could never live with myself.

My ped did say the last thing she'd want is for a parent to give their kid a vaccine that they weren't comfortable with because "you can't take it out of their body". A nurse at their office also said if I wasn't sure, don't do it.
However, most of the nurses recommend it without hesitation, and said one is better than none.

I have read some scary stories- about the teen getting GBS, and kids having hives, seizures, etc. but of course many more have died from h1n1 so I think that is the bigger risk. Even though I know this logically, I still feel sick thinking about getting it for them. It's crazy! Let me know what you decide.

Oh- my other thought is it seems to be dying down a bit- but who knows what it will do come Dec, Jan, Feb.

What does your ped or DH say?


OP here- please let me know what you end up doing!
Anonymous
hi OP- will do. I am actually now leaning towards waiting. I may just call and tell them I will reschedule and I can give it a few days/weeks to obsess some more!
I'm sure both our kids will be fine, but as my dr said once it's done, it's done! I looked up the VAERS database with the side effects reported, etc. too. I am so torn on this too. It's terrible. I will talk to DH tonight - although I think he's fine either way. I think I'd be more inclined to do it if it didn't seem to be dying down slightly...but I change my mind all of the time so I will let you know!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Give me some moral support! I have been really nervous and resisting getting the vaccine for my 15 month old DS (for a variety of reasons). I decided that I would not get it for him unless I could find the thimerosal free, and that I would not wait in a long line. Sure enough, I got an appt. at Montgomery County clinic on Wednesday (thimerosal free).

I am probably going to go ahead with the appointment, but I am just so nervous. I have so many concerns about the vaccine. For other moms who were nervous about the vaccine, and went ahead and did it, what made your decision for you? Any regrets?


I was hesitant and scared and nervous. I went back and forth everyday. I have to day, tho, that since my kids got their first dose (3.5 YO and 12 mos) and feel an incredible measure of relief. I know it's not like a force field that will protect them, but I'm surprised at how relieved I feel. Good luck in your decision.
Anonymous
I was hesitant but not for the reasons anyone has posted. This IS tested as much as every seasonal flu vaccine, with the backbone the exact same as the seasonal flu vaccine. If you're unhappy with the safety of the regular one, fine, but otherwise I think safety is a strange concern.

We selectively and delay vaxes but I decided to give this one as it is something we're very likely to encounter and it is (rarely) making healthy children quite ill.

It isn't true that the reason the CDC and WHO differ is because they don't know. They do know, there is data on efficacy. Shots in most of the world contain adjuvants, which make them more effective in their populations. Ours do not. The WHO thinks regardless of adjuvant they should be spreading the vaccine to protect everyone some rather than some perfectly. I think that's a valid position. For us in the USA, one dose isn't very protective for kids under 9, so that's not really a valid suggestion when they're considering that age group high risk.

Look -- I think the logic is fine to not give it because mortality rates are low or because you dislike vaccines in general or whatnot, but some of what has been said is just false.

Remember that plenty of the VAERS
Anonymous
pp here, sorry, baby hit enter before I was ready.

I was saying that plenty of the VAERS is likely to be coincidence. The data strongly suggest that flu vaccines are some of the safest we have.

And I'm a skeptic, honest, I am not one of those people who wants to sign their newborn up for everything the second they're born.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:New poster here -there is no research. The vaccine was not tested on children. Period.


False.

Google found these in less than 60 seconds.

http://clinicaltrials.gov/show/NCT00944073
http://clinicaltrials.gov/show/NCT00943202
http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00992836?term=HIV+AND+H1N1&rank=2
http://www3.niaid.nih.gov/news/newsreleases/2009/H1N1PedTrial.htm
Anonymous
most studies are ongoing and not done until May 2010
Some have 25 kids in test group.... that's a lot-
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