Moms that were hesitant to get the h1n1 shot for their kids and did....

[Anonymous]

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Also,historically, there HAVE been bad vaccines that subsequently were pulled from the market. The first swine flu vaccine was one. The old rotavirus vaccine was one. Most tragically, the old DTP was one (which is why we now have the DTaP). To get some of the facts and debunk the myths - go here http://www.nvic.org/Myths-and-Facts.aspx, and please read Myth Number 3 about the DTP.

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People, these are not the sites to go to debunk myths. These are the sites that create myths. The "National Vaccine Information Center" is an anti-vaccine site.

Its actually a non-government, non-pharma vaccine information and safety site. Not a bunch of quacks and not creating myths. Did you even take any time to read it?? The founder's son suffered brain damage from the DTP vaccine (which maybe you would just call coincidence). Believe what you want - ignore this site if you want. The facts speak for themselves - there have been some vaccines in the past that were not adequate tested and harmed children. Hopefully the h1n1 is safe for most....I just am not willling to have my kids get it when testing is ongoing. I suppose you are not a fan of Stephanie Cave either - but her book is filled with factual information that you are not going to find on the CDC or AAP sites. How about you lead me to a site with the facts on vaccines? Ever try to read and understand the VAERS database? Good luck!

[Anonymous]

I was hesitant to get the vaccine. I was very worried. But kids are dying from the flu, no kids have been reported as dying from the vaccine yet.

I know there may be side effects later. I dread watching my two year old become autistic, or some other horrible thing happening.... but at least she will have a future because she won't die of some horrible, preventable disease.

I was a history major and one time I had to look over a list from like I dunno, 1880 or something about the cause of death..... so many little, little children dead on that list..... pneumonia, pneumonia, pneumonia.... which is basically what the labelled you, no matter what you initially had, once your lungs filled up with fluid and you drowned from it It was so sobering, that there was a time when every parent must have known what it was like to bury a child, as opposed to now when it's so rare. Thanks, I think, to vaccines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:do little math before making your decission:

h1n1 vaccine is said to provide circa 49% protection against flu, so technically you might do it and yet still catch the flu.. is it still worth the risks? you have to decide.

No, that's wrong. In kids with 2 doses, close to 100% have full seroconversion.

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I am not debating either side. I am still undecided, but will probably end up vaccinating. For now I am holding off, but may soon. I do want to say though as far as adverse side effects - there are three confirmed people who have gotten GBS in a 15 mile radius of here.
One is the article on msnbc and 2 others, our friend who is a dr is treating. We spoke to him ourselves. It isn't some crazy email going around.

So the fact that they are saying 5 reported GBS cases in 30 million seems a littly fishy or inaccurate. The other thing I wonder is that whole GBS fiasco of 1976- it is a little concerning that they never really knew what happened and I wonder if it's related to the actual swine flu virus. In other words, while I know manufacturing has improved, etc.. is it something with swine itself?

I know there are tons of things that happen unrelated to the vaccine that people will blame, but the GBS case in VA that happened 18 hrs after the shot, it is alarming to me that the CDC is so quick to say it is not related. I am not some conspiracy theorist and I do trust the CDC, but they would help their case with people trusting them if they weren't so quick to dismiss every adverse event. I don't expect them to admit it and make a big panic, but at least acknowledge the possibility.

As I said, I am pro-vaccine and although scared of this one, will probably do it, but all of you who are seem to be so adamant about vaccinating, I'm sure if your child was paralyzed 18 hrs after a shot (god forbid) you wouldn't be so quick to say "Oh it happens every day!"

[Anonymous]

OP here. DS was vaccinated today. I am a bit nervous, but am so relieved as well. So from here on out I'm not checking this Site anymore (it will make me crazy!). Thanks everyone for your input and support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. DS was vaccinated today. I am a bit nervous, but am so relieved as well. So from here on out I'm not checking this Site anymore (it will make me crazy!). Thanks everyone for your input and support.

Op I hope you're able to be at peace with your decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am confused why educated people who LARGELY agree to cooperate with the medical system in the US and trust that they are NOT trying to kill us are drawing a line on the sand on this! The vaccine for H1N1. Measles, mumps, rubella, polio, chicken pox, we ALL get these vaccines (except for those who do NONE of these, and we are not even discussing THOSE people). I totally get the worry. No one WANTS to put MORE stuff into their kids bodies...no one. I hate to give my kids meds at all, but there is a point where I HAVE to trust the research (overall) and the goodness in people that want to work for public health. This does not guarantee my child's health, nor does it mean there will not possibly be unforseen repercussions, but I have watched my son's classmate struggle in the hospital for OVER A MONTH from complications with H1N1. The family is distraught. I look at the front page of the metro section today and children are REALLY suffering. What is more important to you? Your faulty logic or your child's health?

There we go again with the conclusory assertions and the false choices? Which is more important to you? Your faulty logic or your child's health?

How about: Which is more important to you? Gathering information from all sources, considering various factors in relation to your specific circumstances, and making a decision that your comfortable with, or running out to get a new and untested vaccination due to a lot of fear-mongering?

[Anonymous]

"untested vaccination due to a lot of fear-mongering"

I am the PP you are quoting: fear-mongering? Fear mongering. I don't disagree that the media can take a story and run away with it, but the numbers are the numbers and they are NOT GOOD when it comes to the swine flu. They may not feel terrible to YOU, but the swine flu poses a major threat to many. My major issue is when parents, who are normal sane people, decide to NOT vaccinate (hurting the public health in the meanwhile) for no real reason than fear. They are not researching, they are not reading SANE studies, they are just SCARED and making bad decisions based on NOTHING. They are not even reading the BAD studies. Annoying.

[Anonymous]

When you call a vaccine new and untested when it is actually more tested than any seasonal flu vaccine, that makes YOU the fear-monger, pp.

[Anonymous]

Weird. Then why do the inserts in the vaccines say untested? Apparently the manufacturers don't realize they are tested. Maybe you should let them know ; )

[Anonymous]

It says safety and effectiveness have not been established in nursing mothers, pregnant women, young children, etc. There IS some data on this and the CDC says it has been more tested than their seasonal vaccines. What they test is EFFICACY year after year, not effectiveness. We know the difference, right?


But again, what we have a is a huge data set with the seasonal vaccine supporting this safety. And again, if A is safe and you add virus B, which when wild, has zero reported cases of making people develop purple and green triangles all over their bodies, you don't suddenly get a vaccine that makes people break out in purple and green triangles. That isn't how it works.

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http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/QuestionsaboutVaccines/ucm188099.htm

What is known about the safety of influenza vaccines in pregnant women?

* Studies of several thousand pregnant women in the scientific literature have shown that inactivated seasonal influenza vaccines are safe during pregnancy. They have shown no evidence for harm to pregnant women, the pregnancy or to newborns of vaccinated women. In addition, FDA and CDC’s routine monitoring of adverse events has not raised safety concerns.
* The FDA-approved Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 monovalent vaccines are made in the same licensed facilities and with the same manufacturing processes used to safely produce hundreds of millions of doses of seasonal influenza vaccine every year.
* In addition, before they can be used, all Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 monovalent vaccines must undergo the same rigorous FDA manufacturing oversight, product quality testing and lot release procedures that apply to seasonal influenza vaccines.
* Because of the scientific information in the literature, the fact that FDA-licensed manufacturers are producing the Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 monovalent vaccine following the same processes as for their seasonal influenza vaccines, and FDA-oversight of manufacturing, product quality testing and lot release procedures, FDA has a high degree of assurance of the safety of both seasonal and Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 monovalent vaccines for pregnant women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It says safety and effectiveness have not been established in nursing mothers, pregnant women, young children, etc. There IS some data on this and the CDC says it has been more tested than their seasonal vaccines. What they test is EFFICACY year after year, not effectiveness. We know the difference, right?


But again, what we have a is a huge data set with the seasonal vaccine supporting this safety. And again, if A is safe and you add virus B, which when wild, has zero reported cases of making people develop purple and green triangles all over their bodies, you don't suddenly get a vaccine that makes people break out in purple and green triangles. That isn't how it works.

Not the PP you are addressing, can you explain efficacy vs. effectiveness? Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. DS was vaccinated today. I am a bit nervous, but am so relieved as well. So from here on out I'm not checking this Site anymore (it will make me crazy!). Thanks everyone for your input and support.

Op I hope you're able to be at peace with your decision.

OMG! It's not as though OP went on a murder rampage!