S/o I have a lot of respect for ASU

[Anonymous]

It gets sh*t on all the time for being so easy to get into but you know what? I respect them. In this article, they talk at length about how their goal is not to become exclusive, it’s to make a solid education accessible to many people and not just turn people away for the sake of make themselves look exclusive (cough Tulane. Cough Northeastern). And I agree that this race to become more exclusive is what leads to the crap that is going down right now.

Breath of fresh air.

Read more:
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-education/2019/03/12/asu-mentioned-university-bribery-scandal-court-documents-lori-loughlin/3141574002/

[Anonymous]

The problem with ASU is its out of control Greek and party scene. I grew up in California and it was known at THE wreckless party school. Pretty much everyone I know who went there ended up dropping out due to drugs and partying. It was as bad as UC Santa Barbara, but without the solid academics.

Maybe they’ve tried to fix these issues, I have no idea. But it has a bad reputation for many years. The school was also a major hub of drug activity and trafficking

[Anonymous]

No you are thinking of the University of Arizona UofA
ASU is a good school nothing like you describe
Your post is laughable, where did you learn your critical thinking skills? Some cesspool California Junior "college"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No you are thinking of the University of Arizona UofA
ASU is a good school nothing like you describe
Your post is laughable, where did you learn your critical thinking skills? Some cesspool California Junior "college"?

You’re wrong. Here’s current students views on the matter: https://www.unigo.com/colleges/arizona-state-university-tempe/q-and-a/is-the-stereotype-of-students-at-your-school-accurate-10/1

It seems that the new head of the University is really trying to shed ASU’s party reputation:
https://www.azcentral.com/in-depth/news/local/arizona-education/2019/02/28/michael-crow-changing-arizona-state-university-reputation-party-school-asu-innovation-global-brand/2670463002/

[Anonymous]

I'm sure ASU is looked down upon by DC snobs, but it's actually a decent school and has a good business school. I don't know anyone from the midwest or NE who didn't like going to school there, especially those who are into the outdoors or chasing senoritas.

[Anonymous]

I agree OP. I toured this school. It is amazing. The president is a genius from the projects. He is blunt and assertive, but he doesn’t give a crap about the numbers and elite game. He even merged his online school with his university students. They are all his students. No one getting a degree online will have a different college name or thought of any less. (Try that out UMCP and “UMUC” and your shady numbers game.) He said he wanted 100,000 students of all ages, colors, and class, getting an education in his state. He hit the 100,000 two years earlier than projected (last year.)

My child from an elite private high school, on a massive scholarship that has become very apparent to the kids around her - loved it. She is over that game. It was a breath of fresh air. Even the orientation doesn’t give you the whole big song and dance every other college gives you. The kids are happy. Truly happy. Maybe it is the beautiful weather, maybe it is that their worst dorms are UVA and UMCP best. But I think the real reason is there is no entitlement or competition. They are offered an education and to make the best they can of it. The top kids not only get fantastic straightword merit packages, but are getting research and lab work freshman year that only the tippy top kids get elsewhere by junior year. The average kids are not meant to struggle and can get free tutoring. They can go in and out of schools and take the classes they want. The struggling kids that can’t afgord or need to help out at home, can move their classes online. No one is forced to live on the campus.

The Barrett honors college is what is considered their SLAC within a big university. Want a small liberal arts school? Want to be around very intellectual stimulating kids of all majors? Want a physics class of only 25? Want an advisor that truly knows your name? That honors college is number one in the country. He hired the old Swathmore dean to run it and it has thrived. The community has their dorms, dining hall, gym, classrooms, library, gyms, outdoor pools and volleyball courts. Faculty and advisors. Writing lab and tutors all in one location. It was well thought out.

They still have Greek, but they tore down all the old houses about 8 years ago and built buildings for them. They live all together with certain frats in x amount of halls/location. They each have community kitchens, meeting rooms, and very often plan events together or compete against each other in simple events.

The SESE school is unique and incredible. Hidden gem. The Walter Cronkite School of Journalism is top notch. Graduate students are in the ASU building in DC. Fulton Engineering is massive with so many opportunities. Mary Lou Fenton Teaching College is one of the best in the nation.

It just makes me sick that this school got hit with the nasty comments. That bimbo is better off at USC with the other elite.

[Anonymous]

The kids whose parents bribed their way into USC are not only children of extremely wealthy parents, but also very well paid social media influencers (look up Olivia Jade on YouTube or Instagram). To maintain her brand, she needed to be in LA where she could be a ‘college student’ while still hanging out with young famous people to get content for her channel .

ASU would have been death to her career. It isn’t about the relative quality of education between ASU and USC. These people aren’t like us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree OP. I toured this school. It is amazing. The president is a genius from the projects. He is blunt and assertive, but he doesn’t give a crap about the numbers and elite game. He even merged his online school with his university students. They are all his students. No one getting a degree online will have a different college name or thought of any less. (Try that out UMCP and “UMUC” and your shady numbers game.) He said he wanted 100,000 students of all ages, colors, and class, getting an education in his state. He hit the 100,000 two years earlier than projected (last year.)

My child from an elite private high school, on a massive scholarship that has become very apparent to the kids around her - loved it. She is over that game. It was a breath of fresh air. Even the orientation doesn’t give you the whole big song and dance every other college gives you. The kids are happy. Truly happy. Maybe it is the beautiful weather, maybe it is that their worst dorms are UVA and UMCP best. But I think the real reason is there is no entitlement or competition. They are offered an education and to make the best they can of it. The top kids not only get fantastic straightword merit packages, but are getting research and lab work freshman year that only the tippy top kids get elsewhere by junior year. The average kids are not meant to struggle and can get free tutoring. They can go in and out of schools and take the classes they want. The struggling kids that can’t afgord or need to help out at home, can move their classes online. No one is forced to live on the campus.

The Barrett honors college is what is considered their SLAC within a big university. Want a small liberal arts school? Want to be around very intellectual stimulating kids of all majors? Want a physics class of only 25? Want an advisor that truly knows your name? That honors college is number one in the country. He hired the old Swathmore dean to run it and it has thrived. The community has their dorms, dining hall, gym, classrooms, library, gyms, outdoor pools and volleyball courts. Faculty and advisors. Writing lab and tutors all in one location. It was well thought out.

They still have Greek, but they tore down all the old houses about 8 years ago and built buildings for them. They live all together with certain frats in x amount of halls/location. They each have community kitchens, meeting rooms, and very often plan events together or compete against each other in simple events.

The SESE school is unique and incredible. Hidden gem. The Walter Cronkite School of Journalism is top notch. Graduate students are in the ASU building in DC. Fulton Engineering is massive with so many opportunities. Mary Lou Fenton Teaching College is one of the best in the nation.

It just makes me sick that this school got hit with the nasty comments. That bimbo is better off at USC with the other elite.

Love how up you are all "lets be egalitarian and not snobby" and then IMMEDIATELY let us know that you kid went to an "elite" private and then you break the school down into the "top" kids and the Honors College kids and give a condescending pat on the head to the "average" kids. You rely on Swarthmore's name to bolster prestige.

You are still very invested in making sure your kid is at the top of the pile. You just want to redefine which schools belong on that list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The kids whose parents bribed their way into USC are not only children of extremely wealthy parents, but also very well paid social media influencers (look up Olivia Jade on YouTube or Instagram). To maintain her brand, she needed to be in LA where she could be a ‘college student’ while still hanging out with young famous people to get content for her channel .

ASU would have been death to her career. It isn’t about the relative quality of education between ASU and USC. These people aren’t like us.

USC and UCLA aren't the only colleges in the Los Angeles area. She could have gone to Cal State Dominguez Hills. It really didn't matter where she went, because she even said in an interview that she wasn't sure how much she was even going to go to class, she just wanted to experience the parties and football games and was going to talk to her deans about that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree OP. I toured this school. It is amazing. The president is a genius from the projects. He is blunt and assertive, but he doesn’t give a crap about the numbers and elite game. He even merged his online school with his university students. They are all his students. No one getting a degree online will have a different college name or thought of any less. (Try that out UMCP and “UMUC” and your shady numbers game.) He said he wanted 100,000 students of all ages, colors, and class, getting an education in his state. He hit the 100,000 two years earlier than projected (last year.)

My child from an elite private high school, on a massive scholarship that has become very apparent to the kids around her - loved it. She is over that game. It was a breath of fresh air. Even the orientation doesn’t give you the whole big song and dance every other college gives you. The kids are happy. Truly happy. Maybe it is the beautiful weather, maybe it is that their worst dorms are UVA and UMCP best. But I think the real reason is there is no entitlement or competition. They are offered an education and to make the best they can of it. The top kids not only get fantastic straightword merit packages, but are getting research and lab work freshman year that only the tippy top kids get elsewhere by junior year. The average kids are not meant to struggle and can get free tutoring. They can go in and out of schools and take the classes they want. The struggling kids that can’t afgord or need to help out at home, can move their classes online. No one is forced to live on the campus.

The Barrett honors college is what is considered their SLAC within a big university. Want a small liberal arts school? Want to be around very intellectual stimulating kids of all majors? Want a physics class of only 25? Want an advisor that truly knows your name? That honors college is number one in the country. He hired the old Swathmore dean to run it and it has thrived. The community has their dorms, dining hall, gym, classrooms, library, gyms, outdoor pools and volleyball courts. Faculty and advisors. Writing lab and tutors all in one location. It was well thought out.

They still have Greek, but they tore down all the old houses about 8 years ago and built buildings for them. They live all together with certain frats in x amount of halls/location. They each have community kitchens, meeting rooms, and very often plan events together or compete against each other in simple events.

The SESE school is unique and incredible. Hidden gem. The Walter Cronkite School of Journalism is top notch. Graduate students are in the ASU building in DC. Fulton Engineering is massive with so many opportunities. Mary Lou Fenton Teaching College is one of the best in the nation.

It just makes me sick that this school got hit with the nasty comments. That bimbo is better off at USC with the other elite.

On-line degrees are thought less of, and they should be -- and if the ASU diploma doesn't make any distinction between degrees earned on-line and in the regular classrooms then shame on them for being deceptive. Employers want to know this information.

[Anonymous]

Based just on this thread I'm afraid I have lost a lot of respect for ASU. Seriously, you can earn your degree there on-line?

[Anonymous]

I’m pretty sure there’s some sort of “reputation management” sock puppet posting in this thread on behalf of ASU.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Based just on this thread I'm afraid I have lost a lot of respect for ASU. Seriously, you can earn your degree there on-line?

My DH teaches at U-MD at College Park. For classes that used to meet 3x per week, 1 day's content/activities must now be delivered online. Not just 100-level but also 300- and 400-level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kids whose parents bribed their way into USC are not only children of extremely wealthy parents, but also very well paid social media influencers (look up Olivia Jade on YouTube or Instagram). To maintain her brand, she needed to be in LA where she could be a ‘college student’ while still hanging out with young famous people to get content for her channel .

ASU would have been death to her career. It isn’t about the relative quality of education between ASU and USC. These people aren’t like us.

USC and UCLA aren't the only colleges in the Los Angeles area. She could have gone to Cal State Dominguez Hills. It really didn't matter where she went, because she even said in an interview that she wasn't sure how much she was even going to go to class, she just wanted to experience the parties and football games and was going to talk to her deans about that.

To Amazon and the other brands who hired her to promote their college lines, USC is far more of a prestigious, aspirational school. UCLA could probably have worked too but perhaps Singer didn't have anyone on the take there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Based just on this thread I'm afraid I have lost a lot of respect for ASU. Seriously, you can earn your degree there on-line?

My DH teaches at U-MD at College Park. For classes that used to meet 3x per week, 1 day's content/activities must now be delivered online. Not just 100-level but also 300- and 400-level.

what's that got to do with earning your degree on-line?