ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:No one said trapped players are doomed. The statement was made that BY is systematically dysfunctional for q4 and some q3 players during certain periods of their soccer career.

How so q3?

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way college coaches and ECNL are “fine” with the current system. When my daughter was a trapped junior, her ECNL team full of committed seniors went to one ECNL showcase. When her senior teammates were juniors, they went to 3 showcases, but my kid was a sophomore and couldn’t speak to d1 coaches yet. Travel to these showcases is expensive…I get why the seniors didn’t want to go. It’s a dysfunctional system.

Just a thought...if your sophomore player stood out at the 3 showcases, they could have taken down her name and talked to her when she was a junior. Or when she was a junior at the one showcase. What am I missing?

I agree that it isn't an ideal system, but can you honestly say that if she wasn't trapped then D1 coaches would have come calling? Your kid went to 4 college showcases and no one reached out? What we all know is that the kids who stand out are getting contacted one way or another. College coaches aren't so crunched for time that they couldn't keep an eye on a promising sophomore.

Moot point going forward with SY replacing BY in 2026.

Oh, I don't care...it's not my kid. I think the person is missing the problem that is staring them in the face...their kid didn't get picked out of the crowd when they had the chance.

They definitely would have been better off to go to showcases with their grade rather than up a grade. Easy to see why leagues are fixing this problem.

Colleges don't pick everyone. They have roster limitations and want to win.

If you're a November kid playing with and against kids one grade higher than you in school, that doesn't hurt your college recruitment chances, because the same coach/scout watching your teammates for quality will see your quality.
They also know your graduation year.

If coaches and scouts don't know your graduation year, isn't that purely your fault?

College coaches are part of the drive to SY so they know their limitations and want a fix.

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is you realize that but bring emotional statements into the conversation then toss it off as someone saying their player is doomed because they only had one ecnl showcase as a junior while their senior teammates had 3 showcases as juniors. That is a disadvantage for the trapped player that the q1 and q2 players didn’t have.

Why is anyone solely relying on showcases?
Is that the only way to be on the radar of colleges, coaches and scouts?

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way college coaches and ECNL are “fine” with the current system. When my daughter was a trapped junior, her ECNL team full of committed seniors went to one ECNL showcase. When her senior teammates were juniors, they went to 3 showcases, but my kid was a sophomore and couldn’t speak to d1 coaches yet. Travel to these showcases is expensive…I get why the seniors didn’t want to go. It’s a dysfunctional system.

Just a thought...if your sophomore player stood out at the 3 showcases, they could have taken down her name and talked to her when she was a junior. Or when she was a junior at the one showcase. What am I missing?

I agree that it isn't an ideal system, but can you honestly say that if she wasn't trapped then D1 coaches would have come calling? Your kid went to 4 college showcases and no one reached out? What we all know is that the kids who stand out are getting contacted one way or another. College coaches aren't so crunched for time that they couldn't keep an eye on a promising sophomore.

Moot point going forward with SY replacing BY in 2026.

Oh, I don't care...it's not my kid. I think the person is missing the problem that is staring them in the face...their kid didn't get picked out of the crowd when they had the chance.

They definitely would have been better off to go to showcases with their grade rather than up a grade. Easy to see why leagues are fixing this problem.

Colleges don't pick everyone. They have roster limitations and want to win.

If you're a November kid playing with and against kids one grade higher than you in school, that doesn't hurt your college recruitment chances, because the same coach/scout watching your teammates for quality will see your quality.
They also know your graduation year.

If coaches and scouts don't know your graduation year, isn't that purely your fault?

College coaches are part of the drive to SY so they know their limitations and want a fix.

Where are the announcements from big soccer schools that they are pushing for change to SY because BY hurts their ability to recruit the Best talent?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way college coaches and ECNL are “fine” with the current system. When my daughter was a trapped junior, her ECNL team full of committed seniors went to one ECNL showcase. When her senior teammates were juniors, they went to 3 showcases, but my kid was a sophomore and couldn’t speak to d1 coaches yet. Travel to these showcases is expensive…I get why the seniors didn’t want to go. It’s a dysfunctional system.

Just a thought...if your sophomore player stood out at the 3 showcases, they could have taken down her name and talked to her when she was a junior. Or when she was a junior at the one showcase. What am I missing?

I agree that it isn't an ideal system, but can you honestly say that if she wasn't trapped then D1 coaches would have come calling? Your kid went to 4 college showcases and no one reached out? What we all know is that the kids who stand out are getting contacted one way or another. College coaches aren't so crunched for time that they couldn't keep an eye on a promising sophomore.

Moot point going forward with SY replacing BY in 2026.

If the coaches don't see you as a standout player in BY, they won't see you as a standout player in SY

Because you're obviously not a standout player.

If the coaches don't see you as a standout player in SY, they wouldn't have seen you as a standout player in BY.

Because you're obviously not a standout player.

Let the games begin!

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way college coaches and ECNL are “fine” with the current system. When my daughter was a trapped junior, her ECNL team full of committed seniors went to one ECNL showcase. When her senior teammates were juniors, they went to 3 showcases, but my kid was a sophomore and couldn’t speak to d1 coaches yet. Travel to these showcases is expensive…I get why the seniors didn’t want to go. It’s a dysfunctional system.

Just a thought...if your sophomore player stood out at the 3 showcases, they could have taken down her name and talked to her when she was a junior. Or when she was a junior at the one showcase. What am I missing?

I agree that it isn't an ideal system, but can you honestly say that if she wasn't trapped then D1 coaches would have come calling? Your kid went to 4 college showcases and no one reached out? What we all know is that the kids who stand out are getting contacted one way or another. College coaches aren't so crunched for time that they couldn't keep an eye on a promising sophomore.

Moot point going forward with SY replacing BY in 2026.

Oh, I don't care...it's not my kid. I think the person is missing the problem that is staring them in the face...their kid didn't get picked out of the crowd when they had the chance.

They definitely would have been better off to go to showcases with their grade rather than up a grade. Easy to see why leagues are fixing this problem.

Colleges don't pick everyone. They have roster limitations and want to win.

If you're a November kid playing with and against kids one grade higher than you in school, that doesn't hurt your college recruitment chances, because the same coach/scout watching your teammates for quality will see your quality.
They also know your graduation year.

If coaches and scouts don't know your graduation year, isn't that purely your fault?

College coaches are part of the drive to SY so they know their limitations and want a fix.

Where are the announcements from big soccer schools that they are pushing for change to SY because BY hurts their ability to recruit the Best talent?

Sorry for your loss.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No one said trapped players are doomed. The statement was made that BY is systematically dysfunctional for q4 and some q3 players during certain periods of their soccer career.

How so q3?

Because some Q3 kids are still a grade below a majority of their team in the BY system. Aug/Sept kids, depending on the school cutoff, would be trapped players too and those months (July, Aug., Sept.) fall into the Q3 category.

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Anonymous wrote:No one said trapped players are doomed. The statement was made that BY is systematically dysfunctional for q4 and some q3 players during certain periods of their soccer career.

How so q3?

Because some Q3 kids are still a grade below a majority of their team in the BY system. Aug/Sept kids, depending on the school cutoff, would be trapped players too and those months (July, Aug., Sept.) fall into the Q3 category.

How are you born in July, August and be a grade behind kids born in your BY?

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Anonymous wrote:No one said trapped players are doomed. The statement was made that BY is systematically dysfunctional for q4 and some q3 players during certain periods of their soccer career.

How so q3?

Because some Q3 kids are still a grade below a majority of their team in the BY system. Aug/Sept kids, depending on the school cutoff, would be trapped players too and those months (July, Aug., Sept.) fall into the Q3 category.

How are you born in July, August and be a grade behind kids born in your BY?

Your parents made a choice to start you in school late.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one said trapped players are doomed. The statement was made that BY is systematically dysfunctional for q4 and some q3 players during certain periods of their soccer career.

How so q3?

Because some Q3 kids are still a grade below a majority of their team in the BY system. Aug/Sept kids, depending on the school cutoff, would be trapped players too and those months (July, Aug., Sept.) fall into the Q3 category.

How are you born in July, August and be a grade behind kids born in your BY?

Your parents made a choice to start you in school late.

Then said parents forfeit their assumed privilege to gripe about imagined trapped player problems

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Anonymous wrote:No one said trapped players are doomed. The statement was made that BY is systematically dysfunctional for q4 and some q3 players during certain periods of their soccer career.

How so q3?

Because some Q3 kids are still a grade below a majority of their team in the BY system. Aug/Sept kids, depending on the school cutoff, would be trapped players too and those months (July, Aug., Sept.) fall into the Q3 category.

How are you born in July, August and be a grade behind kids born in your BY?

Your parents made a choice to start you in school late.

Some states have early cutoffs and some parents choose to start kids later with late summer birthdays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:No one said trapped players are doomed. The statement was made that BY is systematically dysfunctional for q4 and some q3 players during certain periods of their soccer career.

How so q3?

Because some Q3 kids are still a grade below a majority of their team in the BY system. Aug/Sept kids, depending on the school cutoff, would be trapped players too and those months (July, Aug., Sept.) fall into the Q3 category.

How are you born in July, August and be a grade behind kids born in your BY?

Generally bc your parent "redshirted" you. If you started school when you're "supposed" to, you shouldn't have this issue on a BY system (most schools have sept 30 cutoff in our area). Under a SY system, some of these same folks will have the same issue if their parents redshirted them, so no system (apart from doing grade level) eliminates issues tied to your DOB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no way college coaches and ECNL are “fine” with the current system. When my daughter was a trapped junior, her ECNL team full of committed seniors went to one ECNL showcase. When her senior teammates were juniors, they went to 3 showcases, but my kid was a sophomore and couldn’t speak to d1 coaches yet. Travel to these showcases is expensive…I get why the seniors didn’t want to go. It’s a dysfunctional system.

Agree but also college coaches and the ECNL do not really care. They will fix in 2026 because they can but this is not a top issue for either.

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Anonymous wrote:No one said trapped players are doomed. The statement was made that BY is systematically dysfunctional for q4 and some q3 players during certain periods of their soccer career.

How so q3?

Because some Q3 kids are still a grade below a majority of their team in the BY system. Aug/Sept kids, depending on the school cutoff, would be trapped players too and those months (July, Aug., Sept.) fall into the Q3 category.

How are you born in July, August and be a grade behind kids born in your BY?

Your parents made a choice to start you in school late.

Some states have early cutoffs and some parents choose to start kids later with late summer birthdays.

You hold your kid back to have a age/size/maturity (illusion of) advantage over kids in their grade.

Then it's a trapped alleged disadvantage?
Shakespearean

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way college coaches and ECNL are “fine” with the current system. When my daughter was a trapped junior, her ECNL team full of committed seniors went to one ECNL showcase. When her senior teammates were juniors, they went to 3 showcases, but my kid was a sophomore and couldn’t speak to d1 coaches yet. Travel to these showcases is expensive…I get why the seniors didn’t want to go. It’s a dysfunctional system.

Agree but also college coaches and the ECNL do not really care. They will fix in 2026 because they can but this is not a top issue for either.

Fixing it because they do care obviously. Not fixing it would indicate not caring.