Replacement by Guest Player

[Anonymous]

DS is starting goalkeeper for a travel team.

For an important tournament, he is to be replaced as starting goalkeeper by a visiting player from Europe.

Personally, I accept Club's decision up to a point but I prefer not to attend this tournament since Club has different player.

Is consensus opinion this is OK? I just feel a three day tournament is a lot simply to watch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
DS is starting goalkeeper for a travel team.

For an important tournament, he is to be replaced as starting goalkeeper by a visiting player from Europe.

Personally, I accept Club's decision up to a point but I prefer not to attend this tournament since Club has different player.

Is consensus opinion this is OK? I just feel a three day tournament is a lot simply to watch.

OP, I should say it is U11 age group. Goalkeeper is part of three guest players from Europe intended to boost status of club.

[Anonymous]

Is goalkeeper his only position?

Do you prefer not to attend or does he prefer not to attend?

I would leave it up to him. I understand the slight as an adult but he is a kid. If he wants to play the tournament in other positions, let him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is goalkeeper his only position?

Do you prefer not to attend or does he prefer not to attend?

I would leave it up to him. I understand the slight as an adult but he is a kid. If he wants to play the tournament in other positions, let him.

It's his only position; he doesn't want to go; I don't want to go. I don't mean to create rancor. I just wondered if I was being selfish by refusing the offer that he "warm up" the guest keeper.

[Anonymous]

Does ds also play a field position? also I would tell the club to refund your portion of the club fee for that particular tourney.Or maybe tell the club your ok with splitting 1/2 the game with the guest player but not giving up your sons entire time at GK for a pr move for the club. your son earned that spot let him reap the benefits of winning the staring job

[Anonymous]

Presumably they'll w ant him onsite as a backup in case the starting goalie gets injured.While I don't think what the club is doing is right (especially at U11), I also think kids need to learn to be a team player in good times and in bad. If unfair treatment continues, then you have a choice to make as to whether you stay or leave for another club. But for this season/year, your son is committed whether he starts or plays or not.

That being said, I agree he should ask about splitting time. Or at the least, play on the field.

[Anonymous]

Personally, I find this outrageous for U11. The focus should be developing the club's players which is what you are paying the club to do. At U11, uou are not (or should not) be paying for winning for winning's sake, nor are you paying to elevate the club's status at the expense of your fee-paying player. Is the TD in the loop on this? I would be out of that club so, no, I wouldn't care about skipping the tournament.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Presumably they'll w ant him onsite as a backup in case the starting goalie gets injured.While I don't think what the club is doing is right (especially at U11), I also think kids need to learn to be a team player in good times and in bad. If unfair treatment continues, then you have a choice to make as to whether you stay or leave for another club. But for this season/year, your son is committed whether he starts or plays or not.

That being said, I agree he should ask about splitting time. Or at the least, play on the field.

So thank you very much to all posters.

FWIW, we never let him skip; he plays when sick; etc. So, I think team player part is sort of covered.

If Club wants to badly to win this tournament, or place highly, and has a keeper from 3k miles away, I am disposed to let them play this visiting kid the whole game. But, if I am being gracious not demanding playing time, then attending for injury contingency to me is a little far fetched. I am sure it happens, but I've never seen a keeper at that age injured off the field.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Personally, I find this outrageous for U11. The focus should be developing the club's players which is what you are paying the club to do. At U11, uou are not (or should not) be paying for winning for winning's sake, nor are you paying to elevate the club's status at the expense of your fee-paying player. Is the TD in the loop on this? I would be out of that club so, no, I wouldn't care about skipping the tournament.

100 % agree. I've seen a lot of BS in my time in youth soccer, but this is a whole other level. Any coach who is so intent on winning - at U freaking 11! - that he would pull something like this shouldn't be coaching.

You should run from that club as soon as possible.

One other thing though. I wonder how it's even possible. Even guest players need to be carded, either by USYSA or US Club, depending on what the rest of the team is.

I'm not going to ask you to name and shame the club, but can you tell us which tournament this is?

[Anonymous]

How are the guest players allowed to play in the tournament? I am curious as to how this works in regards to player cards.
What a bizarre PR move for U11, as this is overkill for that age group.

[Anonymous]

OP you need to leave that club.

[Anonymous]

The carding is my question also. Either the club is doing something shady, or it's not an actual tournament where cards are needed to play.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The carding is my question also. Either the club is doing something shady, or it's not an actual tournament where cards are needed to play.

Op. I don’t want to put the club, but it’s a big tournament that includes international teams from Latam/ Caribbean z

I don’t understand the cards well enough to have any theories. I don’t want to be mysterious but I don’t want to put the club, either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP you need to leave that club.

my first thought too

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The carding is my question also. Either the club is doing something shady, or it's not an actual tournament where cards are needed to play.

Op. I don’t want to put the club, but it’s a big tournament that includes international teams from Latam/ Caribbean z

I don’t understand the cards well enough to have any theories. I don’t want to be mysterious but I don’t want to put the club, either.

Dallas Cup? Or something at ESPN in Florida? I wouldn't send my U11 player to an event like that without some understanding about playing time. And I would also question why a U11 team needs to invest that kind of travel at that age. Your overzealous club and parents will price a lot of players out if they start this just to raise their reputation.