Replacement by Guest Player

Anonymous
I wish you could name the club, perhaps after you leave! But I wouldn't put up with this crap...especially at U11. The fact that the club and coach will sacrifice development of your player just to win a few games says it all. I'd ask for my money back since you are obviously not a part of the team for this tournament. What a way to destroy a player's confidence.

I would actually sit down with your son, because locking in at a goalie position at U11 isn't the best idea. That can be his primary position but understanding and playing on the field can only help.
Anonymous
Absolutely do NOT go to the tournament. You should ask for your players card so he can then try and guest for another team that weekend in another tournament.
And the people saying he should go and be a field player- there are 2 guest field players being brought in so 2 other kids aren't playing either. No way they are playing the goalie on the field.
I am curious what country in Europe these kids are from.
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Anonymous wrote:Does ds also play a field position? also I would tell the club to refund your portion of the club fee for that particular tourney.Or maybe tell the club your ok with splitting 1/2 the game with the guest player but not giving up your sons entire time at GK for a pr move for the club. your son earned that spot let him reap the benefits of winning the staring job


What a crappy club. Benching 11 year olds for foreign players? Geez.
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Anonymous wrote:The carding is my question also. Either the club is doing something shady, or it's not an actual tournament where cards are needed to play.


Op. I don’t want to put the club, but it’s a big tournament that includes international teams from Latam/ Caribbean z

I don’t understand the cards well enough to have any theories. I don’t want to be mysterious but I don’t want to put the club, either.


Dallas Cup? Or something at ESPN in Florida? I wouldn't send my U11 player to an event like that without some understanding about playing time. And I would also question why a U11 team needs to invest that kind of travel at that age. Your overzealous club and parents will price a lot of players out if they start this just to raise their reputation.


NP who would add that it's not great that the team has OPs son playing only in goal at this age.


Decent clubs don’t do that until something like u16. Find another club for your kid, OP. And don’t tell them until the last minute either.
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Anonymous wrote:Agree with demand for a goalkeeper. No one ever wants that position.


Goalkeeper is a prestigious position on any team!
- 50% of the team in one position.


Not ours! Everyone is basically saying "not it" when asked who wants to play goalkeeper.


Goalkeeper is certainly not the most popular position on my son’s team but there are a number of boys every year who express an interest in trying. And whether a popular position or not, it’s a very important position. And a lot of pressure, too! On my son’s team, the goalkeeper is definitely valued by players, coach and parents because the offense is not all that strong. If they aren’t scoring a lot, it’s vital to have a goalkeeper who can make the tough saves.


Agree that goalkeeper is very important. It's kind of like defending... It's important but no one wants to do it because it's not as exciting as scoring goals.
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Anonymous wrote:The carding is my question also. Either the club is doing something shady, or it's not an actual tournament where cards are needed to play.


Op. I don’t want to put the club, but it’s a big tournament that includes international teams from Latam/ Caribbean z

I don’t understand the cards well enough to have any theories. I don’t want to be mysterious but I don’t want to put the club, either.


Dallas Cup? Or something at ESPN in Florida? I wouldn't send my U11 player to an event like that without some understanding about playing time. And I would also question why a U11 team needs to invest that kind of travel at that age. Your overzealous club and parents will price a lot of players out if they start this just to raise their reputation.


NP who would add that it's not great that the team has OPs son playing only in goal at this age.


Decent clubs don’t do that until something like u16. Find another club for your kid, OP. And don’t tell them until the last minute either.


Wait until the first game of the season, then inform the coach 15 minutes prior to kickoff that your kid can't make it as he's accepted a guest player spot on another team. I'm sure the coach will understand.
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Anonymous wrote:Agree with demand for a goalkeeper. No one ever wants that position.


Goalkeeper is a prestigious position on any team!
- 50% of the team in one position.


Not ours! Everyone is basically saying "not it" when asked who wants to play goalkeeper.


Goalkeeper is certainly not the most popular position on my son’s team but there are a number of boys every year who express an interest in trying. And whether a popular position or not, it’s a very important position. And a lot of pressure, too! On my son’s team, the goalkeeper is definitely valued by players, coach and parents because the offense is not all that strong. If they aren’t scoring a lot, it’s vital to have a goalkeeper who can make the tough saves.


Agree that goalkeeper is very important. It's kind of like defending... It's important but no one wants to do it because it's not as exciting as scoring goals.


C'mon now! This is America! No one gets tagged as a "special player" without scoring goals.
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Skip, of course. Why on earth would you go?



If it is an out of town tournament, and you'd have travel costs - I'd definitely skip it.
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Anonymous wrote:Agree with demand for a goalkeeper. No one ever wants that position.


Goalkeeper is a prestigious position on any team!
- 50% of the team in one position.


Not ours! Everyone is basically saying "not it" when asked who wants to play goalkeeper.


Goalkeeper is certainly not the most popular position on my son’s team but there are a number of boys every year who express an interest in trying. And whether a popular position or not, it’s a very important position. And a lot of pressure, too! On my son’s team, the goalkeeper is definitely valued by players, coach and parents because the offense is not all that strong. If they aren’t scoring a lot, it’s vital to have a goalkeeper who can make the tough saves.


Agree that goalkeeper is very important. It's kind of like defending... It's important but no one wants to do it because it's not as exciting as scoring goals.


C'mon now! This is America! No one gets tagged as a "special player" without scoring goals.


Yep as a mom of a defender most people on the sidelines never cheer for DC but the coaches really see the value (obviously).
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The only way I would attend is if there were two caveats. One, that there is no "backup" goalkeeper. If there are no other kids who have played goalkeeper for actual games and there is the chance that the visiting player could get sick, injured or tossed out of the game, and the team would be left without a competent goalkeeper. And two, ask the coach to offer some guaranteed time, say a at least one half or at least two halves over the weekend, where your son could play goalkeeper. If there is no guarantee of playing time, then say that it isn't worth the time and expense for you to travel to the tournament.
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Anonymous wrote:The only way I would attend is if there were two caveats. One, that there is no "backup" goalkeeper. If there are no other kids who have played goalkeeper for actual games and there is the chance that the visiting player could get sick, injured or tossed out of the game, and the team would be left without a competent goalkeeper. And two, ask the coach to offer some guaranteed time, say a at least one half or at least two halves over the weekend, where your son could play goalkeeper. If there is no guarantee of playing time, then say that it isn't worth the time and expense for you to travel to the tournament.


There being no back up goalie isn't OP's problem. If OP's kid gets hurt what would the team do? And I wouldn't trust the coach to guard time playing time. If the coach is willing to bring in 3 guest players, the coach won't care about keeping his promise of playing time.
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Did you call Trump? If he doesn't approve the foreign player is out!
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Anonymous wrote:The only way I would attend is if there were two caveats. One, that there is no "backup" goalkeeper. If there are no other kids who have played goalkeeper for actual games and there is the chance that the visiting player could get sick, injured or tossed out of the game, and the team would be left without a competent goalkeeper. And two, ask the coach to offer some guaranteed time, say a at least one half or at least two halves over the weekend, where your son could play goalkeeper. If there is no guarantee of playing time, then say that it isn't worth the time and expense for you to travel to the tournament.


There being no back up goalie isn't OP's problem. If OP's kid gets hurt what would the team do? And I wouldn't trust the coach to guard time playing time. If the coach is willing to bring in 3 guest players, the coach won't care about keeping his promise of playing time.


Np but I can see this getting turned around on op is they had a mishap and needed a backup goalie but he wasn’t there. Obviously op is not to blame but it doesn’t mean they wouldn’t see it that way
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Anonymous wrote:The only way I would attend is if there were two caveats. One, that there is no "backup" goalkeeper. If there are no other kids who have played goalkeeper for actual games and there is the chance that the visiting player could get sick, injured or tossed out of the game, and the team would be left without a competent goalkeeper. And two, ask the coach to offer some guaranteed time, say a at least one half or at least two halves over the weekend, where your son could play goalkeeper. If there is no guarantee of playing time, then say that it isn't worth the time and expense for you to travel to the tournament.


There being no back up goalie isn't OP's problem. If OP's kid gets hurt what would the team do? And I wouldn't trust the coach to guard time playing time. If the coach is willing to bring in 3 guest players, the coach won't care about keeping his promise of playing time.


Np but I can see this getting turned around on op is they had a mishap and needed a backup goalie but he wasn’t there. Obviously op is not to blame but it doesn’t mean they wouldn’t see it that way


So what. If the guest kid gets hurt the coach can call the Karma Police and complain about it.
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Anonymous wrote:The only way I would attend is if there were two caveats. One, that there is no "backup" goalkeeper. If there are no other kids who have played goalkeeper for actual games and there is the chance that the visiting player could get sick, injured or tossed out of the game, and the team would be left without a competent goalkeeper. And two, ask the coach to offer some guaranteed time, say a at least one half or at least two halves over the weekend, where your son could play goalkeeper. If there is no guarantee of playing time, then say that it isn't worth the time and expense for you to travel to the tournament.


There being no back up goalie isn't OP's problem. If OP's kid gets hurt what would the team do? And I wouldn't trust the coach to guard time playing time. If the coach is willing to bring in 3 guest players, the coach won't care about keeping his promise of playing time.


Np but I can see this getting turned around on op is they had a mishap and needed a backup goalie but he wasn’t there. Obviously op is not to blame but it doesn’t mean they wouldn’t see it that way



Not only should you not bring your son to this tournament to be a "backup" to a guest player, but you should RUN from a club that would do this at U11.
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