2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort

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Anonymous wrote:Look, even if the kid was snatched by a gator inside a grocery store, the assholes in this thread would find a way to blame the parents.

TRUTH.

+1 I mean holy hell, these parents just watched their kid get eaten by a gator. But let's find a way to make it their fault. Then, if I don't that, MY KID won't be eaten by gator! Voila! All is right in the world.
Assholes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, don't make man-made lagoons and put a beach and resort next to it and encourage people to play in the sand and have cabanas. It is a "freak accident" in many ways, but Disney puts people at risk by building the resorts the way that they do. Yes, you can't expect to keep alligators completely out of populated areas, but creating additional shore lines and food sources are not a good start.

This kid didn't actually need to be in the water to have been snatched. It is a horrific way to die, and my heart goes out to that poor traumatized family as well as anyone who may have witnessed it.

Disney closed all the beaches in the resort today, until further notice.

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Anonymous wrote:

We stayed at the Polynesian a few years ago. It's on the same lagoon and everyone was swimming, in broad daylight and full view of Disney employees. I didn't see it as a natural body of water at all -- I thought it was a fake lagoon the way everything else at Disney is fake. This family will win and win big.

Yeah, this is a piece of the puzzle that hasn't really been reported on but was suggested by the presence of the lifeguard. If indeed Disney de facto allowed swimming all day, you can see why the parents would interpret the signs not to forbid wading - and/or think that the animating concern behind the sign was risk of drowning, not fear of being eaten.

I saw a picture on the Daily Mail of the Polynesian with the Grand Floridian across the "lagoon." There was a sandy beach with beach chairs along the lagoon. Is that how it was?

Yes! The people who've never been there don't understand what it's like there.

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I'm from Georgia, not Orlando. My point was EVEN PEOPLE NOT FROM FLORIDA know to not go near brackish water like that. In Florida. I'm sure I could similarly detect a not safe environment in Nebraska because shit that's not safe doesn't look safe!

You're local to gator country, that was my point. And no, you won't "detect" an unsafe environment that is beyond your experience. Don't kid yourself.

I've been trekking in the Himalayas, not local to my indigenous habitats. And could tell when a particular rock face looked not so stable for climbing. And I didn't climb. Hey those hot springs at Yellowstone sure are pretty but you can tell you shouldn't be in them! The brain has these awesome alert systems that detect danger! I think someone upthreead nailed it; people in Nebraska would not go in that water anywhere else in Florida but in the Magic Kingdom people seriously seem to think they're in a magical land with no real world intrusions or worries.

That is what Disney wants you to believe. If there are dangerous alligators in those lagoons so close to small children then Disney should warn people and not just invite them down for fireworks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look, even if the kid was snatched by a gator inside a grocery store, the assholes in this thread would find a way to blame the parents.

TRUTH.

Kid shouldn't have been in the grocery store at 9pm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

We stayed at the Polynesian a few years ago. It's on the same lagoon and everyone was swimming, in broad daylight and full view of Disney employees. I didn't see it as a natural body of water at all -- I thought it was a fake lagoon the way everything else at Disney is fake. This family will win and win big.

Yeah, this is a piece of the puzzle that hasn't really been reported on but was suggested by the presence of the lifeguard. If indeed Disney de facto allowed swimming all day, you can see why the parents would interpret the signs not to forbid wading - and/or think that the animating concern behind the sign was risk of drowning, not fear of being eaten.

Many have explained the lifeguard was at the pool, nearby but not right there and not responsible for the shoreline.

When we visited there were tons of people in the water -- no warning not to be.

Well, the signs clearly say no swimming. Perhaps, after that, they are no longer liable for folks who do it anyway so they don't bother to enforce. Enter at your own risk sort of thing...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I'm from Georgia, not Orlando. My point was EVEN PEOPLE NOT FROM FLORIDA know to not go near brackish water like that. In Florida. I'm sure I could similarly detect a not safe environment in Nebraska because shit that's not safe doesn't look safe!

You're local to gator country, that was my point. And no, you won't "detect" an unsafe environment that is beyond your experience. Don't kid yourself.

I've been trekking in the Himalayas, not local to my indigenous habitats. And could tell when a particular rock face looked not so stable for climbing. And I didn't climb. Hey those hot springs at Yellowstone sure are pretty but you can tell you shouldn't be in them! The brain has these awesome alert systems that detect danger! I think someone upthreead nailed it; people in Nebraska would not go in that water anywhere else in Florida but in the Magic Kingdom people seriously seem to think they're in a magical land with no real world intrusions or worries.

That is what Disney wants you to believe. If there are dangerous alligators in those lagoons so close to small children then Disney should warn people and not just invite them down for fireworks.

And, like a sheep, you do? Why do you allow a corporation to think for you?

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Anonymous wrote:https://disneyparksmomspanel.disney.go.com/question/swim-beach-polynesian-resort-im-coming-grandsons-ages-238377/

"asked a great question, but unfortunately guests are asked to refrain from swimming in the Seven Seas Lagoon. There's a lot of boat traffic near the shoreline, so it's not very safe."

I also looked at the personal safety portion of the Disney site. Nothing indicated alligators anywhere.

This. The general idea when you're there bounds is that there are tons of boats in the water, so you shouldn't swim, not that there are alligators. I would never have let my children run along the shorelines - like every child does there - when we there, had I known.

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I'm trying to figure out why this feels different than if a tourist was bitten with a mosquito with zika at Disney. The alligator seems like a danger Disney should have prevented or done a better job warning, but a (hypothetical, so far) mosquito feels more like bad luck of the draw. I'm not sure why they feel different to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, even if the kid was snatched by a gator inside a grocery store, the assholes in this thread would find a way to blame the parents.

TRUTH.

Kid shouldn't have been in the grocery store at 9pm.

Ha, right? Who doesn't bring a gun with them to the grocery store, knowing that alligators live in Florida? IT'S COMMON SENSE, PEOPLE.

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Interview with another family says they were chased by an alligator at Disney in April.

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Anonymous wrote:even a fence won't contain these beasts

Scary shit.

The average alligator is nearly 800 lbs. The ones who are big enough to eat people can't climb a fence. Alligators usually lumbar around. I have doubts about the video's authenticity.

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Lumber^

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Anonymous wrote:Interview with another family says they were chased by an alligator at Disney in April.

Sure they were

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I just stayed at Old Key West a few weeks ago with my family. They feel SO safe. I truly would not have thought that there would be any alligators in the Disney-made lakes despite knowing that Florida has tons of them.