Trump's Address to Congress - March 4
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Anonymous
Yea, CBS bent the knee with their Paramount guy. Don't buy any of it. |
Anonymous
Again, check the partisan composition of those polled. |
Anonymous
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SO the above is one lie. Let's go for another whopper--the Ukraine aid which is mostly old ass weapons.
Has the US spent $350bn on Ukraine? On US aid to Ukraine, Trump claimed: "We've spent perhaps $350bn… and they [Europe] have spent $100bn. What a difference that is." BBC Verify is unable to find any evidence for Trump's $350bn claim and some figures suggest Europe has spent more as whole when all aid to Ukraine is included. The US is, by some margin, the largest single donor to Ukraine. But Europe combined has spent more money than the US, according to the Kiel Institute think tank. It calculates that between 24 January 2022 and the end of 2024, Europe as a whole spent $138.7bn on Ukraine, while the US spent $119.7bn. How much has the US given to Ukraine? Fact-checking Elon Musk's claims in the Oval Office The US Department of Defense has a higher figure of $182.8bn - taking into account a broader range of US military activity in Europe - but this is still considerably less than Trump's figure. We have asked the White House where it comes from. |
Anonymous
The last line, after the bolded nails it. The 11 million figure is aggregate of ALL of the undocumented people in the country going back to the 1980's. |
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From the Guardian. He is continually lying about SS and for some reason, people WANT TO BELIEVE the lies.
Explainer Out-of-date polls to wrong aid amounts: factchecking Trump’s Congress address The president’s marathon address to a joint session of Congress was littered with false claims he’s been corrected on but continued to repeat Robert Mackey Wed 5 Mar 2025 00.37 EST Share Donald Trump’s marathon address to a joint session of Congress on Tuesday was littered with false claims, many of them falsehoods he has previously stated, been corrected on, and continued to repeat regardless. Here are some of the main statements he made that are just not true. man wearing navy suit standing behind podium looks at rows of people looking at him ‘Resist’ shirts and ‘a little disturbance’: key takeaways from Trump’s Congress speech Read more The United States has not given Ukraine $350bn since Russia’s full-scale invasion in 2022 The president repeated one of his new favorite lies: that the United States has given Ukraine $350bn since Russia’s full-scale invasion in 2022, and Europe has given just $100bn. In fact, as Jakub Krupa and Pjotr Sauer reported for the Guardian last month, a running tally kept by the Kiel Institute for the World Economy shows that the US has spent about $120bn, while Europe – counted as the sum of the EU and individual member states – has allocated nearly $138bn in help for Ukraine. When the contributions from non EU countries, like the UK, are included, Europe’s share is even larger. Last week, on three consecutive days, three visiting world leaders corrected Trump on this false statement while sitting next to him in the Oval Office: the French president, Emmanuel Macron, the British prime minister, Keir Starmer, and Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy. Trump did not stop ‘$45m for diversity, equity and inclusion scholarships in Burma’ One in a litany of spending on foreign aid projects that Trump presented as ridiculous was “$45m for diversity, equity and inclusion scholarships in Burma”. There is no evidence that any such scholarships were planned. As the former representative Tom Malinowski pointed out, when this claim was first made by Elon Musk’s “department of government efficiency”, this appears to be a reference to a very different program, USAid’s Lincoln Scholarships, which helped educate young people struggling for freedom against Burma’s military dictatorship. It is not clear why Trump or Musk wrongly thought that these were diversity, equity and inclusion scholarships, but, as Malinowski noted, the USAid project description did specify that the scholars were Burmese students “from diverse backgrounds”. That seems like an important policy, given that the military dictatorship in Burma has exploited ethnic and religious divisions to stay in power. Trump wrongly suggested that millions of dead people might be getting social security payments Trump drew attention to the fact that a Social Security Administration database includes millions of people who would be over 110 years old. But, as the Guardian has reported previously, when Musk claimed that “a cursory examination of social security” showed that “we’ve got people in there that are 150 years old”, this is a deeply misleading way of talking about about real flaw in the social security system which could enable fraud, but apparently does not. That flaw was revealed in a 2015 report by the independent inspector general for the social security administration who discovered that the agency did not have death records for millions of people who had passed away. As of 2015, the inspector general found, there were “approximately 6.5 million numberholders age 112 or older who did not have death information” on their files. According to the report, social security payments were still being made to just 13 people who had reached the age of 112. At least one of those people was certainly still alive, and tweeting, at the time the report’s data was compiled in 2013. When the report was issued in 2015, the oldest person with a social security number and no death record on their file was born in 1869, but there was no record of payments still being made to that person, who would have been nearly 150. In fact, the social security administration already has in place a procedure to conduct interviews with anyone who reaches the age of 100, to verify that they are alive and their account is not being used by someone else to collect fraudulent payments. |
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Also from the Guardian Lie Lie Lying about polss, per his usual
Trump cherrypicked an out-of-date poll to suggest that most Americans say the US is now going in the right direction “Now, for the first time in modern history,” Trump proclaimed early in his address, “more Americans believe that our country is headed in the right direction than the wrong direction.” In fact, Trump appeared to be citing a single poll, published three weeks ago by the Republican-leaning polling firm Rasmussen, which showed a 47%-46% edge for the right direction over the wrong direction. However, that same polling firm’s most recent survey, this week, shows that 45% of Americans now say the country is on the right track, and 50% say it is on the wrong track. As the polling expert Nate Silver noted last year, when it was revealed that Rasmussen was secretly showing its results to the Trump campaign, “this sort of explicit coordination with a campaign, coupled with ambiguity about funding sources, means that we’re going to label Rasmussen as an intrinsically partisan (R) pollster going forward” |
Anonymous
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Trump, DOGE, Elon all lie. AS people lose jobs in chaotic hackneyed manner, jobs which provide services for the American people, ELon is eating up thrice the amount "saved" in contracts.
Trump falsely claimed Musk’s cost-cutting had ‘found hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud’ Since the start of its work, Musk’s “department of government efficiency” initiative has repeatedly claimed to have uncovered “fraud” only to have examples it cited turn out to be incorrect of invented. The most eye-catching example, that the government planned to spend $50m to send condoms to Gaza, turned out to be completely fictional. As the New York Times reported on Monday, receipts posted online by Musk’s “department of government efficiency” document less than $9bn in savings from cancelled government contracts, none of which involved fraud. |
Anonymous
No human being is illegal. Plus, your position is racist and anti-human rights. |
Anonymous
The democrats are holding up signs - that’s the most pathetic performative response. |
Anonymous
And yet one of the Republican Congressmen still couldn’t handle it and attacked her. |
Anonymous
Seems like they both demonstrated free speech. |
Anonymous
| Do the Democrats have any message of their own besides knee jerk opposition to anything President Trump says or does? |
Anonymous
The BBC’s “fact check” here relies on a leftist-globalist German “think tank.” https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ The BBC has conflated opinion with fact here. |
Anonymous
She was violently assaulted on national television! We all saw it. |
Anonymous
So about the same reaction when my teen gets out of line and I lay down the law. |
