Rich Men North of Richmond

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Listen to this song and pay attention to the lyrics. By total coincidence, this guy was performing at a produce stand just on the mainland side of the Outer Banks yesterday (Morriss, if you know the area) as our group stopped for our week's provisions.

I have to say it was almost.... a little bit scary. It honestly felt like the beginning of something. Like a call to arms. These people felt this song in their hearts. I've been to rallys all my life as a DC native but this was something else. At one point a good chunk of the crowd was chanting "Secede! Secede! Secede!"

I have since googled the guy and it seems he is some sort of cult hero to the far right.

I don't know if something is coming but the whispers aren't so quiet.

https://www.google.com/search?q=rich+men+richomd+lyrics&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS895US895&oq=ri&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j69i60j69i61l2.1379j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:2346f2b7,vid:uqdJsRWN1Y4

I'm envious OP. Sounds like you were there there at the beginning of something. I just looked at YouTube. Since this was posted, there have been more than 33 million views and it's the number one song in America.

I've read some of the posts here. Everybody getting lost in the weeds about policy and blah blah blah. This is a song about frustration. About feeling left out. About feeling like you're being taken advantage of. About financial stress. About hopelessness. And the anger that accompanies it.

These are feelings that resonate across America. Republicans play a cynical game, manipulating low information voters to hate the "other" while laughing all the way to the bank. Democrats don't even know how to talk to blue collar Americans anymore.

The fact is a very large percentage of Americans feel completely detached from the "system." It's not working for them. Songs like this hit a nerve. And that doesn't portend anything good.

Because the system promotes an over supply of low wage workers which has kept wages flat for a generation

Democrats used to be the party of labor but now they are the party of urban elites

Change is coming. Biden is going to lose because he has abandoned the deplorables and we know it

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listen to this song and pay attention to the lyrics. By total coincidence, this guy was performing at a produce stand just on the mainland side of the Outer Banks yesterday (Morriss, if you know the area) as our group stopped for our week's provisions.

I have to say it was almost.... a little bit scary. It honestly felt like the beginning of something. Like a call to arms. These people felt this song in their hearts. I've been to rallys all my life as a DC native but this was something else. At one point a good chunk of the crowd was chanting "Secede! Secede! Secede!"

I have since googled the guy and it seems he is some sort of cult hero to the far right.

I don't know if something is coming but the whispers aren't so quiet.

https://www.google.com/search?q=rich+men+richomd+lyrics&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS895US895&oq=ri&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j69i60j69i61l2.1379j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:2346f2b7,vid:uqdJsRWN1Y4

I'm envious OP. Sounds like you were there there at the beginning of something. I just looked at YouTube. Since this was posted, there have been more than 33 million views and it's the number one song in America.

I've read some of the posts here. Everybody getting lost in the weeds about policy and blah blah blah. This is a song about frustration. About feeling left out. About feeling like you're being taken advantage of. About financial stress. About hopelessness. And the anger that accompanies it.

These are feelings that resonate across America. Republicans play a cynical game, manipulating low information voters to hate the "other" while laughing all the way to the bank. Democrats don't even know how to talk to blue collar Americans anymore.

The fact is a very large percentage of Americans feel completely detached from the "system." It's not working for them. Songs like this hit a nerve. And that doesn't portend anything good.

Because the system promotes an over supply of low wage workers which has kept wages flat for a generation

Democrats used to be the party of labor but now they are the party of urban elites

Change is coming. Biden is going to lose because he has abandoned the deplorables and we know it

I fear that this is true. Democrats have totally lost the plot. Wealthy progressive urban elites do not win national elections. Trump was a F*ck You to the system in 2016. Nobody likes him. But he is the vehicle to express rage with the status quo. Democrats - and I include myself here - are idiots for settling on geriatric Biden. Someone who's been in public office for generations and now worth many millions. He ain't getting the blue collar vote.

Biden is going to lose. And the popularity of songs like this should be regarded as the canary in the coal mine.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how many people want to deny a man's lived experience. You need to hear and understand his voice. And maybe you'll reveal something about your own biases.

I totally understand his experience. Being hard working and poor is the experience shared by both left and right. Poor people should unite and overthrow the rich and ruling class, be it democratic or republican. It is a false narrative that this anger only comes from the right, against the left.

The song isn’t about his experiences. It’s about stereotypes and imaginary grievances. No rich men from the North or welfare queens persecuted this guy. He’s a simple small-town Virginia guy who has lived the simple small-town life he chose for himself. The song is popular because millions of people want to believe that they are being persecuted if the whole world isn’t kissing their asses every day. They actually have fewer obstacles in life than at any time in history.

Based on your assessment of his situation, it seems that you think life is about choices. Do you apply that line of thinking to everyone's circumstances or just certain groups of people?

Nobody discriminated or segregated or did anything to limit his opportunities. Nobody forced him to drop out of school. He has lived the life he chose. Now he has a successful music career using the old Southern formula of blaming all his struggles on Yankees and welfare queens.

Once again... he is not blaming "Yankees>" The "Rich men north of Richmond" was a reference to politicians in DC. Not "Yankees" in general.

No one has ever referred to DC or the federal government as “rich men north of Richmond.” Never. It’s a neo-Confederate reference. It doesn’t make sense as anything else.

The guy obviously likes word play--in this case between "rich men" and "Richmond."

See also " the use of "miners" and "minors" in the lyrics.

The “rich men” word play still doesn’t fit DC or the government. Call us bureaucratic, call us woke, but DC is not about rich men controlling everything. Rich men probably have less clout in DC than in any other city or state in the country.

Oh, please. Like Dianne Feinstein? Nancy Pelosi? John Kerry? George Bush? Donald Trump? John Kennedy? Mitt Romney? Mike Braun?

Of course there are rich people in DC but none of those people have control or authority over the things he is crying about in the song. They didn’t set his wages in the factory or turn him into a shithead punching down at people on welfare. They didn’t make him quit high school and “learn” dumb stereotypes from 4chan or wherever he got his self-pity fix and old stereotypes. Good for him that he has found success. He can pay more taxes and write more songs about how unfair that is.

If you're going to pretend that congressmen, senators, and presidents ("DC") don't have power and don't make decisions that affect us all, then you'll have to find someone else to try to convince. I'm too old and have been around too long to believe your nonsense.

The guy dropped out of high school and did drop-out things and had drop-out jobs and was a substance abuser living in a camper. Nancy Pelosi didn’t do any of that to him. He did it.

Now he’s found the magic formula - punch down at poor people on welfare and food stamps and whine about paying taxes and other imaginary grievances. It’s just indulgent self-pity disguised as a political statement.

I get what you’re saying but really he’s a man who had a passion, worked on his craft, and found a massive audience. As an artist, I feel that I understand him better than I do the vast majority of my elected representatives (on either side of the aisle) for sure!
You may not like the song (I’m meh about it, but I’m not an audience that has experienced what he’s singing about), but it’s always admirable for someone to succeed in their passion!
I could be so wrong (and time will tell), but the artist himself seems like a good person who isn’t really trying to be political.

Np.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how many people want to deny a man's lived experience. You need to hear and understand his voice. And maybe you'll reveal something about your own biases.

I totally understand his experience. Being hard working and poor is the experience shared by both left and right. Poor people should unite and overthrow the rich and ruling class, be it democratic or republican. It is a false narrative that this anger only comes from the right, against the left.

The song isn’t about his experiences. It’s about stereotypes and imaginary grievances. No rich men from the North or welfare queens persecuted this guy. He’s a simple small-town Virginia guy who has lived the simple small-town life he chose for himself. The song is popular because millions of people want to believe that they are being persecuted if the whole world isn’t kissing their asses every day. They actually have fewer obstacles in life than at any time in history.

Based on your assessment of his situation, it seems that you think life is about choices. Do you apply that line of thinking to everyone's circumstances or just certain groups of people?

Nobody discriminated or segregated or did anything to limit his opportunities. Nobody forced him to drop out of school. He has lived the life he chose. Now he has a successful music career using the old Southern formula of blaming all his struggles on Yankees and welfare queens.

Once again... he is not blaming "Yankees>" The "Rich men north of Richmond" was a reference to politicians in DC. Not "Yankees" in general.

No one has ever referred to DC or the federal government as “rich men north of Richmond.” Never. It’s a neo-Confederate reference. It doesn’t make sense as anything else.

The guy obviously likes word play--in this case between "rich men" and "Richmond."

See also " the use of "miners" and "minors" in the lyrics.

The “rich men” word play still doesn’t fit DC or the government. Call us bureaucratic, call us woke, but DC is not about rich men controlling everything. Rich men probably have less clout in DC than in any other city or state in the country.

Oh, please. Like Dianne Feinstein? Nancy Pelosi? John Kerry? George Bush? Donald Trump? John Kennedy? Mitt Romney? Mike Braun?

Of course there are rich people in DC but none of those people have control or authority over the things he is crying about in the song. They didn’t set his wages in the factory or turn him into a shithead punching down at people on welfare. They didn’t make him quit high school and “learn” dumb stereotypes from 4chan or wherever he got his self-pity fix and old stereotypes. Good for him that he has found success. He can pay more taxes and write more songs about how unfair that is.

If you're going to pretend that congressmen, senators, and presidents ("DC") don't have power and don't make decisions that affect us all, then you'll have to find someone else to try to convince. I'm too old and have been around too long to believe your nonsense.

The guy dropped out of high school and did drop-out things and had drop-out jobs and was a substance abuser living in a camper. Nancy Pelosi didn’t do any of that to him. He did it.

Now he’s found the magic formula - punch down at poor people on welfare and food stamps and whine about paying taxes and other imaginary grievances. It’s just indulgent self-pity disguised as a political statement.

I get what you’re saying but really he’s a man who had a passion, worked on his craft, and found a massive audience. As an artist, I feel that I understand him better than I do the vast majority of my elected representatives (on either side of the aisle) for sure!
You may not like the song (I’m meh about it, but I’m not an audience that has experienced what he’s singing about), but it’s always admirable for someone to succeed in their passion!
I could be so wrong (and time will tell), but the artist himself seems like a good person who isn’t really trying to be political.

Np.

+1 I agree

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a feeling that those on this thread blowing this off as some uneducated idiot who doesn't know anything are going to be in for a rude awakening in the coming years.

Gosh what’s going to happen— are a bunch of his fanboys going to get together, riot, and try to overturn a free democratic election? Spoilers: we know.

Gosh this smugness is exactly what I'm talking about. Get a clue.

To be more specific, the poor are polling more for Trump (and only Trump, not R as a whole) than they did in 2020. The indictments are making him MORE relatable to those people.

If you have had any exposure to US media since 2016 you will know that the perceived plight of poor white men and white men without college degrees has been explored, investigated, probed, worried about ENDLESSLY. This isn’t new. This is just a new theme song for them. So yes we already know that they want to get together and tell each other how brave and important they are and “own the libs” by violently overthrowing the government. What do you feel like is new here?

Don't talk down to me. Just because you have 3 masters degrees doesn't mean you're actually smarter or better than me.

What I'm saying is that Democrats are turning off the working class vote with exactly your attitude and smugness. People like you don't seem to GET IT. Or maybe you do, and just don't care.

At the current trajectory, don't be surprised when Trump wins by 10pm in November 2024. I'll be here watching all you crybabies posting about how you still don't GET how it could have happened.

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If you have had any exposure to US media since 2016 you will know that the perceived plight of poor white men and white men without college degrees has been explored, investigated, probed, worried about ENDLESSLY. This isn’t new. This is just a new theme song for them. So yes we already know that they want to get together and tell each other how brave and important they are and “own the libs” by violently overthrowing the government. What do you feel like is new here?

Don't talk down to me. Just because you have 3 masters degrees doesn't mean you're actually smarter or better than me.

What I'm saying is that Democrats are turning off the working class vote with exactly your attitude and smugness. People like you don't seem to GET IT. Or maybe you do, and just don't care.

At the current trajectory, don't be surprised when Trump wins by 10pm in November 2024. I'll be here watching all you crybabies posting about how you still don't GET how it could have happened.

Sorry about your lack of education. Whose fault is it?

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Sorry about your lack of education. Whose fault is it?


Snide remarks like this really encapsulate why democrats might lose in 2024. No empathy. Just dripping disdain for folks that don't live in NW or Bethesda. It's not exactly the party of Roosevelt anymore

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a feeling that those on this thread blowing this off as some uneducated idiot who doesn't know anything are going to be in for a rude awakening in the coming years.

Gosh what’s going to happen— are a bunch of his fanboys going to get together, riot, and try to overturn a free democratic election? Spoilers: we know.

Gosh this smugness is exactly what I'm talking about. Get a clue.

To be more specific, the poor are polling more for Trump (and only Trump, not R as a whole) than they did in 2020. The indictments are making him MORE relatable to those people.

If you have had any exposure to US media since 2016 you will know that the perceived plight of poor white men and white men without college degrees has been explored, investigated, probed, worried about ENDLESSLY. This isn’t new. This is just a new theme song for them. So yes we already know that they want to get together and tell each other how brave and important they are and “own the libs” by violently overthrowing the government. What do you feel like is new here?

Don't talk down to me. Just because you have 3 masters degrees doesn't mean you're actually smarter or better than me.

What I'm saying is that Democrats are turning off the working class vote with exactly your attitude and smugness. People like you don't seem to GET IT. Or maybe you do, and just don't care.

At the current trajectory, don't be surprised when Trump wins by 10pm in November 2024. I'll be here watching all you crybabies posting about how you still don't GET how it could have happened.

It's truly weird that you continue to think that every woe faced out there in Red State America is somehow the fault of Democrats. You blame Democrats for low-wage jobs when it's been Republicans who've controlled your local chamber of commerce and what industry and jobs come into your Red State county, it's been Republicans who control your state, it's been Republicans who've fought tooth and nail against any increase in wages. Along with keeping your family poor by leading you on with false promises, like sure, we'll keep mining coal and keep that mine open, sure you'll get rich if you vote for us...
while also not helping with your healthcare, helping your kids get into college, or helping with much of anything else.

Then, when Democrats dare to point that out to you, you get angry and say "how DARE you point that out" (the aforementioned 'attitude' and 'smugness'). You aren't willing to help yourselves and you attack anyone who is willing to try and help you.

[Anonymous]

Virginia has been a blue state for awhile now, outside of the Youngkin blip.

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia has been a blue state for awhile now, outside of the Youngkin blip.

Yes, mostly due to NoVA, the Tidewater area, and the city of Richmond. Everywhere else is pretty red.

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Anonymous wrote:He's dropped a new song.
He definitely is talented.

Suddenly Democrats are pro-war.

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia has been a blue state for awhile now, outside of the Youngkin blip.

Yes, mostly due to NoVA, the Tidewater area, and the city of Richmond. Everywhere else is pretty red.

Well, that's where most of the people live, so, makes sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He's dropped a new song.
He definitely is talented.

Suddenly Democrats are pro-war.

I like this one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia has been a blue state for awhile now, outside of the Youngkin blip.

Yes, mostly due to NoVA, the Tidewater area, and the city of Richmond. Everywhere else is pretty red.

Yes, that’s pretty much how it works in every blue state—population centers prefer Democrats.

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Anonymous wrote:He's dropped a new song.
He definitely is talented.

Suddenly Democrats are pro-war.

like neocons of old.