How are the 6th grade enrichment classes for cohort kids who were not accepted to magnet programs?

[Anonymous]

How are the 6th grade enrichment classes for cohort kids who were not accepted to magnet programs last year?

[Anonymous]

From what I can tell, they're not much different than the non-cohort classes. I have 6th grade twins--one applied to magnet (not accepted) and is in the cohort classes; the other twin never applied and is in the regular honors-type classes. I see the homework that both are brining home and it's more or less the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From what I can tell, they're not much different than the non-cohort classes. I have 6th grade twins--one applied to magnet (not accepted) and is in the cohort classes; the other twin never applied and is in the regular honors-type classes. I see the homework that both are brining home and it's more or less the same.

Thanks for the info. For both social science and math?

[Anonymous]

Can you clarify what you mean by regular honors-type classes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From what I can tell, they're not much different than the non-cohort classes. I have 6th grade twins--one applied to magnet (not accepted) and is in the cohort classes; the other twin never applied and is in the regular honors-type classes. I see the homework that both are brining home and it's more or less the same.

It’s probably hard to tell as a parent, but what I’m most interested in is whether the cohort class moves more quickly or has more in-depth discussions. My middle schooler really struggled being frustrated with the slow pace and lack of depth in his 6th grade courses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can you clarify what you mean by regular honors-type classes?

DP.. most of the MS have classes designated as "honors". They are a joke. My DC is now in 8th grade, was in every honors class available, and he mostly slept through the classes (figuratively) and got straight As. He had previously been in HGC. And my DC is not really "gifted", just really really bright.

This is why so many parents are angry about what happened with the change in the MS magnet admissions. The one or two class offerings in the home MS to placate the parents was pretty insulting.

Some people on the forum kept saying "oh, isn't wonderful now kids can stay in their home MS and not have to commute to get an enriched curriculum". I snorted at their naivete.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you clarify what you mean by regular honors-type classes?

DP.. most of the MS have classes designated as "honors". They are a joke. My DC is now in 8th grade, was in every honors class available, and he mostly slept through the classes (figuratively) and got straight As. He had previously been in HGC. And my DC is not really "gifted", just really really bright.

This is why so many parents are angry about what happened with the change in the MS magnet admissions. The one or two class offerings in the home MS to placate the parents was pretty insulting.

Some people on the forum kept saying "oh, isn't wonderful now kids can stay in their home MS and not have to commute to get an enriched curriculum". I snorted at their naivete.

Well we are living with the new classes and they are quite an improvement over the scenario you describe. If I was the type to snort, I might snort at your lack of current information...but that would be trolling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you clarify what you mean by regular honors-type classes?

DP.. most of the MS have classes designated as "honors". They are a joke. My DC is now in 8th grade, was in every honors class available, and he mostly slept through the classes (figuratively) and got straight As. He had previously been in HGC. And my DC is not really "gifted", just really really bright.

This is why so many parents are angry about what happened with the change in the MS magnet admissions. The one or two class offerings in the home MS to placate the parents was pretty insulting.

Some people on the forum kept saying "oh, isn't wonderful now kids can stay in their home MS and not have to commute to get an enriched curriculum". I snorted at their naivete.

Well we are living with the new classes and they are quite an improvement over the scenario you describe. If I was the type to snort, I might snort at your lack of current information...but that would be trolling.

Really, can you provide some examples?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you clarify what you mean by regular honors-type classes?

DP.. most of the MS have classes designated as "honors". They are a joke. My DC is now in 8th grade, was in every honors class available, and he mostly slept through the classes (figuratively) and got straight As. He had previously been in HGC. And my DC is not really "gifted", just really really bright.

This is why so many parents are angry about what happened with the change in the MS magnet admissions. The one or two class offerings in the home MS to placate the parents was pretty insulting.

Some people on the forum kept saying "oh, isn't wonderful now kids can stay in their home MS and not have to commute to get an enriched curriculum". I snorted at their naivete.

Well we are living with the new classes and they are quite an improvement over the scenario you describe. If I was the type to snort, I might snort at your lack of current information...but that would be trolling.

Really, can you provide some examples?

+1

I’d like to hear more about the new classes.

I have a current 5th grader in a non-W cluster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From what I can tell, they're not much different than the non-cohort classes. I have 6th grade twins--one applied to magnet (not accepted) and is in the cohort classes; the other twin never applied and is in the regular honors-type classes. I see the homework that both are brining home and it's more or less the same.

Thanks for the info. For both social science and math?

Yes, for both social science and math. I had a conversation with the social science teacher for the cohort twin and the teacher told me that there was no difference in the classes. My kids are at Pyle-- it may be different at other schools. For math, I know the cohort twin had one assignment that the other twin did not have. But from what I can see, most assignments seem to be exactly the same and the kids often study together.

[Anonymous]

They suck. Your kid will end up in a mediocre state university and end up in a thankless dead-end job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you clarify what you mean by regular honors-type classes?

DP.. most of the MS have classes designated as "honors". They are a joke. My DC is now in 8th grade, was in every honors class available, and he mostly slept through the classes (figuratively) and got straight As. He had previously been in HGC. And my DC is not really "gifted", just really really bright.

This is why so many parents are angry about what happened with the change in the MS magnet admissions. The one or two class offerings in the home MS to placate the parents was pretty insulting.

Some people on the forum kept saying "oh, isn't wonderful now kids can stay in their home MS and not have to commute to get an enriched curriculum". I snorted at their naivete.

I thought Geometry and some World Language classes were the only official honors classes offered in middle school, as they are for HS credit. There are also Advanced classes at middle schools, like Advanced English 6 as opposed to English 6.

[Anonymous]

Did anyone really think that the cohort classes in regular schools were going to be special and advanced?

Ha. Poor them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Did anyone really think that the cohort classes in regular schools were going to be special and advanced?

Ha. Poor them.

Apparently 15:21 PP above disagrees with you. I'd be interested in hearing that PP's perspective on how those new classes are so great compared to what the MS was offering previously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From what I can tell, they're not much different than the non-cohort classes. I have 6th grade twins--one applied to magnet (not accepted) and is in the cohort classes; the other twin never applied and is in the regular honors-type classes. I see the homework that both are brining home and it's more or less the same.

Thanks for the info. For both social science and math?

Yes, for both social science and math. I had a conversation with the social science teacher for the cohort twin and the teacher told me that there was no difference in the classes. My kids are at Pyle-- it may be different at other schools. For math, I know the cohort twin had one assignment that the other twin did not have. But from what I can see, most assignments seem to be exactly the same and the kids often study together.

Also at Pyle with a DC in both classes. The Social Science class isn’t any different and is quite easy, although my DC loves it and isn’t bored. I think in part it is because the teacher is good. The math class is more challenging than the advanced classes in 4th and 5th grade, but I can’t figure out if it is because the class material is more challenging or if the teacher is not very good. I think it is a combination of both, but can’t say for sure.