Will FCPS fight to keep from giving out 504 plans?

[Anonymous]

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As I understand, FCPS does not like to give out IEP’s. I’m wondering if they treat 504’s in a similar fashion?

I think my child needs a 504. Can anyone recommend a good book or give me any insight on how to move in the direction of getting a 504?

Any tips are recommendations will be much appreciated.

TIA

[Anonymous]

Does your child have a diagnosed disability? Does it impact his/her education? If so, you should be able to get one. However, you really do need to answer yes to both of this questions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:[google]
As I understand, FCPS does not like to give out IEP’s. I’m wondering if they treat 504’s in a similar fashion?

I think my child needs a 504. Can anyone recommend a good book or give me any insight on how to move in the direction of getting a 504?

Any tips are recommendations will be much appreciated.

TIA

What exactly led you to “understand” this? There are 200 schools in FCPS. That means there are 200 local screening committees making eligibility decisions for a student population of almost 190K. Again, what leads you to make an assertion like that?

[Anonymous]

I’m pretty sure he has one but it hasn’t yet been diagnosed. And I can prove it’s effecting his work.

He has adhd symptoms. He’s tested well without any preparation and been identified as gifted so he doesn’t need remedial instruction. However, he obviously needs accommodations.

[Anonymous]

He’s a 4th grader and all his teachers except 1 have had concerns that are adhd symptoms.

Any recommendations for a good person or business to examine and diagnose?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:[google]
As I understand, FCPS does not like to give out IEP’s. I’m wondering if they treat 504’s in a similar fashion?

I think my child needs a 504. Can anyone recommend a good book or give me any insight on how to move in the direction of getting a 504?

Any tips are recommendations will be much appreciated.

TIA

What exactly led you to “understand” this? There are 200 schools in FCPS. That means there are 200 local screening committees making eligibility decisions for a student population of almost 190K. Again, what leads you to make an assertion like that?

Lol. I’ve been reading in this and other forums and listening to parents talk about the subject elsewhere

[Anonymous]

I can't speak to FCPS but I can tell you my child has diagnosed anxiety and slow processing and was denied a 504 because they said she had no "educational impact." Never mind that she's in AAP and gets 2 in language arts and barely passes her reading SOLs. And never mind that her teachers complain that she doesn't complete her work and seems unfocused. We wanted a 504 to allow her to take the SOL in a small group or alone. We also wanted a 504 to give extended time on written assignments and to allow for her to get class notes from someone else or take pictures of the board because she can't write notes down fast enough. But they said no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't speak to FCPS but I can tell you my child has diagnosed anxiety and slow processing and was denied a 504 because they said she had no "educational impact." Never mind that she's in AAP and gets 2 in language arts and barely passes her reading SOLs. And never mind that her teachers complain that she doesn't complete her work and seems unfocused. We wanted a 504 to allow her to take the SOL in a small group or alone. We also wanted a 504 to give extended time on written assignments and to allow for her to get class notes from someone else or take pictures of the board because she can't write notes down fast enough. But they said no.

Who said no? The Principal?

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Anonymous wrote:I can't speak to FCPS but I can tell you my child has diagnosed anxiety and slow processing and was denied a 504 because they said she had no "educational impact." Never mind that she's in AAP and gets 2 in language arts and barely passes her reading SOLs. And never mind that her teachers complain that she doesn't complete her work and seems unfocused. We wanted a 504 to allow her to take the SOL in a small group or alone. We also wanted a 504 to give extended time on written assignments and to allow for her to get class notes from someone else or take pictures of the board because she can't write notes down fast enough. But they said no.

Did you prensent the teacher complaints as evidence when you asked for it?
Did you have an advocate or just ask on your own?

[Anonymous]

We took our son to his pediatrician for a ADHD diagnosis. We then took that to the school and there was no hesitation at all to a 504 plan.

We are now back looking for a possible IEP. Son has done well with the accommodations put in place under the 504, but he is still have lots of difficulty with reading and writing and there are concerns that something just isn't right. We have ruled out eye issues. The local screening committee all agreed to an evaluation.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't speak to FCPS but I can tell you my child has diagnosed anxiety and slow processing and was denied a 504 because they said she had no "educational impact." Never mind that she's in AAP and gets 2 in language arts and barely passes her reading SOLs. And never mind that her teachers complain that she doesn't complete her work and seems unfocused. We wanted a 504 to allow her to take the SOL in a small group or alone. We also wanted a 504 to give extended time on written assignments and to allow for her to get class notes from someone else or take pictures of the board because she can't write notes down fast enough. But they said no.

Who said no? The Principal?

An entire committee. I requested a meeting in writing, etc...we met I presented my evidence and why I felt there was educational impact and they "convened" and said "no."

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Anonymous wrote:I can't speak to FCPS but I can tell you my child has diagnosed anxiety and slow processing and was denied a 504 because they said she had no "educational impact." Never mind that she's in AAP and gets 2 in language arts and barely passes her reading SOLs. And never mind that her teachers complain that she doesn't complete her work and seems unfocused. We wanted a 504 to allow her to take the SOL in a small group or alone. We also wanted a 504 to give extended time on written assignments and to allow for her to get class notes from someone else or take pictures of the board because she can't write notes down fast enough. But they said no.

Did you prensent the teacher complaints as evidence when you asked for it?
Did you have an advocate or just ask on your own?

Yes and the teacher was there and said nothing. Didn't back me up but didn't go against me either. And no one asked her. I had out emails though.

I was on my own.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't speak to FCPS but I can tell you my child has diagnosed anxiety and slow processing and was denied a 504 because they said she had no "educational impact." Never mind that she's in AAP and gets 2 in language arts and barely passes her reading SOLs. And never mind that her teachers complain that she doesn't complete her work and seems unfocused. We wanted a 504 to allow her to take the SOL in a small group or alone. We also wanted a 504 to give extended time on written assignments and to allow for her to get class notes from someone else or take pictures of the board because she can't write notes down fast enough. But they said no.

Did you prensent the teacher complaints as evidence when you asked for it?
Did you have an advocate or just ask on your own?

Yes and the teacher was there and said nothing. Didn't back me up but didn't go against me either. And no one asked her. I had out emails though.

I was on my own.

I’ve been teaching in elementary schools in FCPS (upper grades) for over 20 years. What are you talking about with copying notes from the board? I have a really hard time believing that this is happening on a regular basis or so much that it is impacting anyone. That is not how we teach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We took our son to his pediatrician for a ADHD diagnosis. We then took that to the school and there was no hesitation at all to a 504 plan.

We are now back looking for a possible IEP. Son has done well with the accommodations put in place under the 504, but he is still have lots of difficulty with reading and writing and there are concerns that something just isn't right. We have ruled out eye issues. The local screening committee all agreed to an evaluation.

My son has a diagnosis of ADHD from a psychologist. I brought the report to the screening committee and they said a 504 isn’t necessary because the teacher will provide accommodations (also he was still able to do the class work, not failing). So far the teacher is providing sufficient accommodations but it’s frustrating that they won’t give him the 504 plan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We took our son to his pediatrician for a ADHD diagnosis. We then took that to the school and there was no hesitation at all to a 504 plan.

We are now back looking for a possible IEP. Son has done well with the accommodations put in place under the 504, but he is still have lots of difficulty with reading and writing and there are concerns that something just isn't right. We have ruled out eye issues. The local screening committee all agreed to an evaluation.

My son has a diagnosis of ADHD from a psychologist. I brought the report to the screening committee and they said a 504 isn’t necessary because the teacher will provide accommodations (also he was still able to do the class work, not failing). So far the teacher is providing sufficient accommodations but it’s frustrating that they won’t and give him the 504 plan.

But you’re getting what you want (the accommodations) and your kid is doing fine. Don’t create drama where none is needed.