How is FCPS teacher/staff shortage?

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Anonymous wrote:No way it’s 97% staffed. Way too many vacancies listed. (Plus we know that not all are listed.)

Math is our friend:

13,149 classroom teachers (https://nces.ed.gov/ccd/districtsearch/district_detail.asp?Search=2&ID2=5101260)

This doesn’t include positions such as counselors, librarians and IAs. So let’s add to that number and make it 13,200 total instructional positions.

At the principals’ briefing yesterday, there were currently 588 vacancies.

13200 - 588 = 12612 filled positions.

12612 / 13200 = 96% filled

So she was off by 1 percent.

Yeah, 97% filled sounds much better than 588 vacancies.

112 of those are K-6 classroom teachers. Not IA, SPED or Specials teachers - just classroom teachers.

There are 140 elementary schools. That’s less than one teacher per school.

Whatever you have to say to make yourself feel better. Its nice and theoretical until your kid gets the long term sub. DP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, the elementary school principals are playing a round of 18 at Wintergreen Resort. While a bunch of them have many vacancies to fill. Think they took leave?

I don't know, but it's such a bad look for FCPS. They get huffy when someone asks why they can't pay aides, custodians, and bus drivers enough to actually live in the county or give employees with more than 20 years' service a nicer bonus than a plastic lanyard, but there's apparently plenty of money to send over 100 people on a $$$ "golf outing".

It is an annual conference put on by the Fairfax Principal’s Association, so I’m pretty sure they pay their own way. But the conference started at 7 tonight and there must have been 40 of them playing golf at 10am this am. And who knows how many others at the spa and pool. Just not a great look to be here all day before it started playing golf with your buddies. I’m sure they thought no one would be watching, but many FCPS parents and staff have second homes there/vacation there. Not a great look to be playing 18 wearing fcps gear on a Wednesday, guys.

PP. If the association is indeed paying their own way, I don’t care. If this is being footed even partially by the school district, it’s ridiculous.

Feel this way about all the other government funded organizations that do team building? I have worked as an officer in the Navy and I’ve worked for an I H, these things occur there as well.

Yes I do, especially if that government-funded organization is constantly begging to find workers because it severely underpays the people who do the heaviest lifting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No way it’s 97% staffed. Way too many vacancies listed. (Plus we know that not all are listed.)

Math is our friend:

13,149 classroom teachers (https://nces.ed.gov/ccd/districtsearch/district_detail.asp?Search=2&ID2=5101260)

This doesn’t include positions such as counselors, librarians and IAs. So let’s add to that number and make it 13,200 total instructional positions.

At the principals’ briefing yesterday, there were currently 588 vacancies.

13200 - 588 = 12612 filled positions.

12612 / 13200 = 96% filled

So she was off by 1 percent.

Yeah, 97% filled sounds much better than 588 vacancies.

112 of those are K-6 classroom teachers. Not IA, SPED or Specials teachers - just classroom teachers.

There are 140 elementary schools. That’s less than one teacher per school.

Whatever you have to say to make yourself feel better. Its nice and theoretical until your kid gets the long term sub. DP

What about the HS level? They often teach over 150 students each.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No way it’s 97% staffed. Way too many vacancies listed. (Plus we know that not all are listed.)

Math is our friend:

13,149 classroom teachers (https://nces.ed.gov/ccd/districtsearch/district_detail.asp?Search=2&ID2=5101260)

This doesn’t include positions such as counselors, librarians and IAs. So let’s add to that number and make it 13,200 total instructional positions.

At the principals’ briefing yesterday, there were currently 588 vacancies.

13200 - 588 = 12612 filled positions.

12612 / 13200 = 96% filled

So she was off by 1 percent.

Yeah, 97% filled sounds much better than 588 vacancies.

112 of those are K-6 classroom teachers. Not IA, SPED or Specials teachers - just classroom teachers.

There are 140 elementary schools. That’s less than one teacher per school.

Whatever you have to say to make yourself feel better. Its nice and theoretical until your kid gets the long term sub. DP

Yeah it’s definitely not an average of one per school. Things are more dire than they say and they are working on contingency plans. My school still needs half my team!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Superintendent says 97% staffed.

https://www.fcps.edu/blog/message-superintendent-regarding-fall-planning

I know a little but about what into this number. (Not full information.)

What is not said:
- The 97% includes long term subs
- The percentage of SPED classes with a licensed teacher is lower. It depends on how you define it, but there are likely close to 30% of students with IEPs who either 1) do not have their IEP hours staffed by a SPED teacher and/or 2) their specialist (OT/PT/speech etc) staffed.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No way it’s 97% staffed. Way too many vacancies listed. (Plus we know that not all are listed.)

Math is our friend:

13,149 classroom teachers (https://nces.ed.gov/ccd/districtsearch/district_detail.asp?Search=2&ID2=5101260)

This doesn’t include positions such as counselors, librarians and IAs. So let’s add to that number and make it 13,200 total instructional positions.

At the principals’ briefing yesterday, there were currently 588 vacancies.

13200 - 588 = 12612 filled positions.

12612 / 13200 = 96% filled

So she was off by 1 percent.

Yeah, 97% filled sounds much better than 588 vacancies.

112 of those are K-6 classroom teachers. Not IA, SPED or Specials teachers - just classroom teachers.

There are 140 elementary schools. That’s less than one teacher per school.

Whatever you have to say to make yourself feel better. Its nice and theoretical until your kid gets the long term sub. DP

Yeah it’s definitely not an average of one per school. Things are more dire than they say and they are working on contingency plans. My school still needs half my team!

It looks like ES ranges from all classrooms staffed to 1-5 openings for K-6. If your school is not on there - you are lucky. If your school has no classroom teaching positions you are lucky.

[Anonymous]

Wonder why she got the percentage wrong?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wonder why she got the percentage wrong?

Who says she did? Some anonymous poster on DCUM?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wonder why she got the percentage wrong?

She might have updated information. The staffed numbers go quite a bit each day at this time of year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, the elementary school principals are playing a round of 18 at Wintergreen Resort. While a bunch of them have many vacancies to fill. Think they took leave?

I don't know, but it's such a bad look for FCPS. They get huffy when someone asks why they can't pay aides, custodians, and bus drivers enough to actually live in the county or give employees with more than 20 years' service a nicer bonus than a plastic lanyard, but there's apparently plenty of money to send over 100 people on a $$$ "golf outing".

It is an annual conference put on by the Fairfax Principal’s Association, so I’m pretty sure they pay their own way. But the conference started at 7 tonight and there must have been 40 of them playing golf at 10am this am. And who knows how many others at the spa and pool. Just not a great look to be here all day before it started playing golf with your buddies. I’m sure they thought no one would be watching, but many FCPS parents and staff have second homes there/vacation there. Not a great look to be playing 18 wearing fcps gear on a Wednesday, guys.

PP. If the association is indeed paying their own way, I don’t care. If this is being footed even partially by the school district, it’s ridiculous.

Feel this way about all the other government funded organizations that do team building? I have worked as an officer in the Navy and I’ve worked for an I H, these things occur there as well.

Yes I do, especially if that government-funded organization is constantly begging to find workers because it severely underpays the people who do the heaviest lifting.

Ugh. I’m glad you get just one vote. We cancel each other our.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder why she got the percentage wrong?

She might have updated information. The staffed numbers go quite a bit each day at this time of year.

And who really knows what the 97 is a % of. Maybe it’s the major backlog of HR. Maybe it’s enough to actually start the year but not ideal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder why she got the percentage wrong?

She might have updated information. The staffed numbers go quite a bit each day at this time of year.

Agree. I’ve seen positions linger on the list when I know that they’ve been filled. HR is slooooooow to get contracts out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder why she got the percentage wrong?

She might have updated information. The staffed numbers go quite a bit each day at this time of year.

Why do they change each day? Which teachers are looking for positions this late in the summer?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder why she got the percentage wrong?

Who says she did? Some anonymous poster on DCUM?

+1. I’m going to trust the superintendent to know a more accurate number than an anonymous DCUM poster.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wonder why she got the percentage wrong?

She might have updated information. The staffed numbers go quite a bit each day at this time of year.

Why do they change each day? Which teachers are looking for positions this late in the summer?

There are always de-staffs. Not sure if that will happen this summer or not. But every year, teachers are de staffed right before school starts.