the Key/ASFS building switch...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.arlnow.com/2018/10/18/peters-take-science-focus-key-swap-cart-before-the-horse/

Someone who gets it!

Swap is just red herring to tamp down discussion until SA boundaries are done.

The whole Key ASFS debate will be addressed when Reed boundaries are discussed.

On related note, how is LB capacity looking with new maps — can they take a chunk of Rosslyn?

On the current maps, no. However, when Reed opens, either:
1. All school boundaries snake east, so Long Branch loses some PU on the western edge and picks up some to the northeast
2. In a "surprise" move, the immersion program is relocated to ATS or Carlin Springs and they can draw some more compac looking boundaries around Key and ASFS and mostly leave Long Branch alone.

[Anonymous]

Seriously, why are they swapping the schools when over 300 Key students live in the "ASFS" walk zone?? Yes, some might go to the new building or they may just want to stay in the same building and continue to walk to school. Not everyone at Key is there for the program but for the proximity. And if APS stays true to its word about cutting down transportation costs, it's going to have to let in all the Taylor kids who live in Lyon Village who will be eligible to walk to the new neighborhood school at Key. So the whole premise of "keeping the ASFS" community together is going to be a farce-- the new school is going to be a good mix of Taylor, Key and ASFS kids. Meanwhile, the Key program is shrunk and ASFS lab is gutted and the taxpayers get to pay for it all. Keep the schools where they all, everyone lives happily ever after.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, why are they swapping the schools when over 300 Key students live in the "ASFS" walk zone?? Yes, some might go to the new building or they may just want to stay in the same building and continue to walk to school. Not everyone at Key is there for the program but for the proximity. And if APS stays true to its word about cutting down transportation costs, it's going to have to let in all the Taylor kids who live in Lyon Village who will be eligible to walk to the new neighborhood school at Key. So the whole premise of "keeping the ASFS" community together is going to be a farce-- the new school is going to be a good mix of Taylor, Key and ASFS kids. Meanwhile, the Key program is shrunk and ASFS lab is gutted and the taxpayers get to pay for it all. Keep the schools where they all, everyone lives happily ever after.

In 3 years most of those kids will have aged out have you not read the new Key lottery rules — no neighborhood preference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, why are they swapping the schools when over 300 Key students live in the "ASFS" walk zone?? Yes, some might go to the new building or they may just want to stay in the same building and continue to walk to school. Not everyone at Key is there for the program but for the proximity. And if APS stays true to its word about cutting down transportation costs, it's going to have to let in all the Taylor kids who live in Lyon Village who will be eligible to walk to the new neighborhood school at Key. So the whole premise of "keeping the ASFS" community together is going to be a farce-- the new school is going to be a good mix of Taylor, Key and ASFS kids. Meanwhile, the Key program is shrunk and ASFS lab is gutted and the taxpayers get to pay for it all. Keep the schools where they all, everyone lives happily ever after.

In 3 years most of those kids will have aged out have you not read the new Key lottery rules — no neighborhood preference.

Also, that's the number of resident students in the walk zone for Key building. Only 40 of them go to Key Immersion per the docs put out by the board explaining the rationale for this whole thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.arlnow.com/2018/10/18/peters-take-science-focus-key-swap-cart-before-the-horse/

Someone who gets it!

Swap is just red herring to tamp down discussion until SA boundaries are done.

The whole Key ASFS debate will be addressed when Reed boundaries are discussed.

On related note, how is LB capacity looking with new maps — can they take a chunk of Rosslyn?

On the current maps, no. However, when Reed opens, either:
1. All school boundaries snake east, so Long Branch loses some PU on the western edge and picks up some to the northeast
2. In a "surprise" move, the immersion program is relocated to ATS or Carlin Springs and they can draw some more compac looking boundaries around Key and ASFS and mostly leave Long Branch alone.

If that’s their plan, they should just say so. It’s bad enough that they messed this up so royally from a process standpoint, but if the reason we shouldn’t be up in arms is that they’ve got a super top secret agenda that’s going to allow everything to resolve perfectly ... well that’s not a responsible way to oversee a boundary adjustment process, is it???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, why are they swapping the schools when over 300 Key students live in the "ASFS" [b]walk zone?? [/b] Yes, some might go to the new building or they may just want to stay in the same building and continue to walk to school. Not everyone at Key is there for the program but for the proximity. And if APS stays true to its word about cutting down transportation costs, it's going to have to let in all the Taylor kids who live in Lyon Village who will be eligible to walk to the new neighborhood school at Key. So the whole premise of "keeping the ASFS" community together is going to be a farce-- the new school is going to be a good mix of Taylor, Key and ASFS kids. Meanwhile, the Key program is shrunk and ASFS lab is gutted and the taxpayers get to pay for it all. Keep the schools where they all, everyone lives happily ever after.

In 3 years most of those kids will have aged out have you not read the new Key lottery rules — no neighborhood preference.

Also, that's the number of resident students in the walk zone for Key building. Only 40 of them go to Key Immersion per the docs put out by the board explaining the rationale for this whole thing.

Sorry, meant to say attendance zone-- see https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Transfer-Report-2017-18.pdf (And I guess technically, there were only 296 students who lived in the Key/ASFS zone who attended Key last year-- not sure how much that number has changed this year).

And where is the data supporting that all 296 will be gone in 2 (if the swap is in 2020) or 3 (if the swap is done in 2021) years? Weren't most of the native speaking lottery entries this fall from the current Key/ASFS zone? How is APS going to guarantee that all those kids are going to move to the new site and not just stay with the building? You can't force anyone to leave a neighborhood school.

That would really be something if Rosslyn fought so hard to move the school close to their neighborhood but then get kicked out to make way for the "real" neighborhood kids. They would have been better off just staying at ASFS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, why are they swapping the schools when over 300 Key students live in the "ASFS" [b]walk zone?? [/b] Yes, some might go to the new building or they may just want to stay in the same building and continue to walk to school. Not everyone at Key is there for the program but for the proximity. And if APS stays true to its word about cutting down transportation costs, it's going to have to let in all the Taylor kids who live in Lyon Village who will be eligible to walk to the new neighborhood school at Key. So the whole premise of "keeping the ASFS" community together is going to be a farce-- the new school is going to be a good mix of Taylor, Key and ASFS kids. Meanwhile, the Key program is shrunk and ASFS lab is gutted and the taxpayers get to pay for it all. Keep the schools where they all, everyone lives happily ever after.

In 3 years most of those kids will have aged out have you not read the new Key lottery rules — no neighborhood preference.

Also, that's the number of resident students in the walk zone for Key building. Only 40 of them go to Key Immersion per the docs put out by the board explaining the rationale for this whole thing.

Sorry, meant to say attendance zone-- see https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Transfer-Report-2017-18.pdf (And I guess technically, there were only 296 students who lived in the Key/ASFS zone who attended Key last year-- not sure how much that number has changed this year).

And where is the data supporting that all 296 will be gone in 2 (if the swap is in 2020) or 3 (if the swap is done in 2021) years? Weren't most of the native speaking lottery entries this fall from the current Key/ASFS zone? How is APS going to guarantee that all those kids are going to move to the new site and not just stay with the building? You can't force anyone to leave a neighborhood school.

That would really be something if Rosslyn fought so hard to move the school close to their neighborhood but then get kicked out to make way for the "real" neighborhood kids. They would have been better off just staying at ASFS.

Done, Rosslyn was fine staying at the current ASFS building. It’s the school board who wants to have the school within its neighborhood zone that is really pushing for the switch.

There is a huge waitlist at Claremont for immersion, they will be coming to the Key immersion So don’t worry, it will not be any more neighborhood kids at the ASFS zone school, whether it’s a key or ASFS site.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, why are they swapping the schools when over 300 Key students live in the "ASFS" [b]walk zone?? [/b] Yes, some might go to the new building or they may just want to stay in the same building and continue to walk to school. Not everyone at Key is there for the program but for the proximity. And if APS stays true to its word about cutting down transportation costs, it's going to have to let in all the Taylor kids who live in Lyon Village who will be eligible to walk to the new neighborhood school at Key. So the whole premise of "keeping the ASFS" community together is going to be a farce-- the new school is going to be a good mix of Taylor, Key and ASFS kids. Meanwhile, the Key program is shrunk and ASFS lab is gutted and the taxpayers get to pay for it all. Keep the schools where they all, everyone lives happily ever after.

In 3 years most of those kids will have aged out have you not read the new Key lottery rules — no neighborhood preference.

Also, that's the number of resident students in the walk zone for Key building. Only 40 of them go to Key Immersion per the docs put out by the board explaining the rationale for this whole thing.

Sorry, meant to say attendance zone-- see https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Transfer-Report-2017-18.pdf (And I guess technically, there were only 296 students who lived in the Key/ASFS zone who attended Key last year-- not sure how much that number has changed this year).

And where is the data supporting that all 296 will be gone in 2 (if the swap is in 2020) or 3 (if the swap is done in 2021) years? Weren't most of the native speaking lottery entries this fall from the current Key/ASFS zone? How is APS going to guarantee that all those kids are going to move to the new site and not just stay with the building? You can't force anyone to leave a neighborhood school.

That would really be something if Rosslyn fought so hard to move the school close to their neighborhood but then get kicked out to make way for the "real" neighborhood kids. They would have been better off just staying at ASFS.

This is BLATENTLY wrong. No one at Rosslyn has any preference for Key vs ASFS site. Some LV parents do support swap.

Rosslyn just wanted to be bused to the closest neighborhood school, rather than half way across the county.

[Anonymous]

That column in Arl Now was a joke. Barely mentioned (if at all) that the issue is that damn school isn't in its boundary. I live nowhere near there and my kids are in middle school. Swap these damn schools already and give us a rest from the entitled mob in Courthouse and Clarendon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, why are they swapping the schools when over 300 Key students live in the "ASFS" [b]walk zone?? [/b] Yes, some might go to the new building or they may just want to stay in the same building and continue to walk to school. Not everyone at Key is there for the program but for the proximity. And if APS stays true to its word about cutting down transportation costs, it's going to have to let in all the Taylor kids who live in Lyon Village who will be eligible to walk to the new neighborhood school at Key. So the whole premise of "keeping the ASFS" community together is going to be a farce-- the new school is going to be a good mix of Taylor, Key and ASFS kids. Meanwhile, the Key program is shrunk and ASFS lab is gutted and the taxpayers get to pay for it all. Keep the schools where they all, everyone lives happily ever after.

In 3 years most of those kids will have aged out have you not read the new Key lottery rules — no neighborhood preference.

Also, that's the number of resident students in the walk zone for Key building. Only 40 of them go to Key Immersion per the docs put out by the board explaining the rationale for this whole thing.

Sorry, meant to say attendance zone-- see https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Transfer-Report-2017-18.pdf (And I guess technically, there were only 296 students who lived in the Key/ASFS zone who attended Key last year-- not sure how much that number has changed this year).

And where is the data supporting that all 296 will be gone in 2 (if the swap is in 2020) or 3 (if the swap is done in 2021) years? Weren't most of the native speaking lottery entries this fall from the current Key/ASFS zone? How is APS going to guarantee that all those kids are going to move to the new site and not just stay with the building? You can't force anyone to leave a neighborhood school.

That would really be something if Rosslyn fought so hard to move the school close to their neighborhood but then get kicked out to make way for the "real" neighborhood kids. They would have been better off just staying at ASFS.

This is BLATENTLY wrong. No one at Rosslyn has any preference for Key vs ASFS site. Some LV parents do support swap.

Rosslyn just wanted to be bused to the closest neighborhood school, rather than half way across the county.

Rosslyn is definitely going to Taylor if Key stays immersion. Better chance of getting into Key as neighborhood than ASFS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That column in Arl Now was a joke. Barely mentioned (if at all) that the issue is that damn school isn't in its boundary. I live nowhere near there and my kids are in middle school. Swap these damn schools already and give us a rest from the entitled mob in Courthouse and Clarendon.

Maybe because it’s not a real issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That column in Arl Now was a joke. Barely mentioned (if at all) that the issue is that damn school isn't in its boundary. I live nowhere near there and my kids are in middle school. Swap these damn schools already and give us a rest from the entitled mob in Courthouse and Clarendon.

Maybe because it’s not a real issue.

Except that APS designated ASF a neighborhood school starting this year, but didn't adjust the boundaries (rather, just used Key's). The easier solution would be to just draw boundaries around the school.

[Anonymous]

DCUM isn’t where we should be debating the pros and cons of a change that stands to impact so many families, as well as the programs at both schools. This conflict will only get worse if APS goes forward with a swap without allowing appropriate community input and comment as part of the larger boundary adjustment process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCUM isn’t where we should be debating the pros and cons of a change that stands to impact so many families, as well as the programs at both schools. This conflict will only get worse if APS goes forward with a swap without allowing appropriate community input and comment as part of the larger boundary adjustment process.

And yet people will continue to debate it in this echo chamber and then will be shocked when the actual outcome isn't what DCUM insisted it would be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCUM isn’t where we should be debating the pros and cons of a change that stands to impact so many families, as well as the programs at both schools. This conflict will only get worse if APS goes forward with a swap without allowing appropriate community input and comment as part of the larger boundary adjustment process.

They tried community input. It devolved to Cherosslyn War.