South Arlington elementary school boundary adjustments 2019

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Anonymous wrote:And food star condos are very small. Same with trafalgar flats. A lot of people are worried that even with the lower prices, trafalgar flats may not sell and may switch to apartments. That has happened before in arlington. The location is absolutely horrible. I cannot imagine anyone investing their money on a condo on that part of the Pike that will never get better. And, at night there is absolutely street crime on those very streets on a regular basis. Just read the crime reports.

The location definitely isn't Ballston or Shirlington, but it isn't horrible. I did look up those crime reports. They show one aggravated assault and a bunch of thefts. In fact fewer thefts than around Courthouse/Clarendon - which stands to reason because you've got a lot of people spending money there. There aren't many places left in Arlington to get a new condo for $200k, so you have to make compromises. You've got a couple places to eat like Cafe Sazon and you're right next to the W&OD Trail. It isn't like living in Penrose or further up the Pike, but the price of those condos is comparable to what you'd be paying in rent.

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Anonymous wrote:And food star condos are very small. Same with trafalgar flats. A lot of people are worried that even with the lower prices, trafalgar flats may not sell and may switch to apartments. That has happened before in arlington. The location is absolutely horrible. I cannot imagine anyone investing their money on a condo on that part of the Pike that will never get better. And, at night there is absolutely street crime on those very streets on a regular basis. Just read the crime reports.

The location definitely isn't Ballston or Shirlington, but it isn't horrible. I did look up those crime reports. They show one aggravated assault and a bunch of thefts. In fact fewer thefts than around Courthouse/Clarendon - which stands to reason because you've got a lot of people spending money there. There aren't many places left in Arlington to get a new condo for $200k, so you have to make compromises. You've got a couple places to eat like Cafe Sazon and you're right next to the W&OD Trail. It isn't like living in Penrose or further up the Pike, but the price of those condos is comparable to what you'd be paying in rent.

DP - I agree the crime is not that high there and you are safer than people think. I do think its pretty gutsy of that company to build condos there. I don't know that many people who want a condo want to live that far down the Pike, at least not for the size of the units. Some of them are quite small. When I first looked through the floor plans, I thought these would end up being sold to investors to rent out. That part of the Pike will change, but it has been slow to happen. I think the Food Star leaving will be a good thing - it will let people who drive through see that the area is really changing. The mixed retail will be nice.

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Anonymous wrote:And food star condos are very small. Same with trafalgar flats. A lot of people are worried that even with the lower prices, trafalgar flats may not sell and may switch to apartments. That has happened before in arlington. The location is absolutely horrible. I cannot imagine anyone investing their money on a condo on that part of the Pike that will never get better. And, at night there is absolutely street crime on those very streets on a regular basis. Just read the crime reports.

The location definitely isn't Ballston or Shirlington, but it isn't horrible. I did look up those crime reports. They show one aggravated assault and a bunch of thefts. In fact fewer thefts than around Courthouse/Clarendon - which stands to reason because you've got a lot of people spending money there. There aren't many places left in Arlington to get a new condo for $200k, so you have to make compromises. You've got a couple places to eat like Cafe Sazon and you're right next to the W&OD Trail. It isn't like living in Penrose or further up the Pike, but the price of those condos is comparable to what you'd be paying in rent.

DP - I agree the crime is not that high there and you are safer than people think. I do think its pretty gutsy of that company to build condos there. I don't know that many people who want a condo want to live that far down the Pike, at least not for the size of the units. Some of them are quite small. When I first looked through the floor plans, I thought these would end up being sold to investors to rent out. That part of the Pike will change, but it has been slow to happen. I think the Food Star leaving will be a good thing - it will let people who drive through see that the area is really changing. The mixed retail will be nice.

I'm looking forward to the retail. I think we could end up with some decent restaurants, because unlike other parts of the Pike, we have nearby employers of professionals who could walk over and create lunchtime foot traffic (from the Foreign Affairs center and the National Guards center). And because there's not a lot of competition in walking distance, dinner service could do well, too.

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Anonymous wrote:And food star condos are very small. Same with trafalgar flats. A lot of people are worried that even with the lower prices, trafalgar flats may not sell and may switch to apartments. That has happened before in arlington. The location is absolutely horrible. I cannot imagine anyone investing their money on a condo on that part of the Pike that will never get better. And, at night there is absolutely street crime on those very streets on a regular basis. Just read the crime reports.

The location definitely isn't Ballston or Shirlington, but it isn't horrible. I did look up those crime reports. They show one aggravated assault and a bunch of thefts. In fact fewer thefts than around Courthouse/Clarendon - which stands to reason because you've got a lot of people spending money there. There aren't many places left in Arlington to get a new condo for $200k, so you have to make compromises. You've got a couple places to eat like Cafe Sazon and you're right next to the W&OD Trail. It isn't like living in Penrose or further up the Pike, but the price of those condos is comparable to what you'd be paying in rent.

DP - I agree the crime is not that high there and you are safer than people think. I do think its pretty gutsy of that company to build condos there. I don't know that many people who want a condo want to live that far down the Pike, at least not for the size of the units. Some of them are quite small. When I first looked through the floor plans, I thought these would end up being sold to investors to rent out. That part of the Pike will change, but it has been slow to happen. I think the Food Star leaving will be a good thing - it will let people who drive through see that the area is really changing. The mixed retail will be nice.

I'd still expect that development to produce students, especially the two bedroom units, and especially if owners are permitted to sublet them.

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Anonymous wrote:And food star condos are very small. Same with trafalgar flats. A lot of people are worried that even with the lower prices, trafalgar flats may not sell and may switch to apartments. That has happened before in arlington. The location is absolutely horrible. I cannot imagine anyone investing their money on a condo on that part of the Pike that will never get better. And, at night there is absolutely street crime on those very streets on a regular basis. Just read the crime reports.

The location definitely isn't Ballston or Shirlington, but it isn't horrible. I did look up those crime reports. They show one aggravated assault and a bunch of thefts. In fact fewer thefts than around Courthouse/Clarendon - which stands to reason because you've got a lot of people spending money there. There aren't many places left in Arlington to get a new condo for $200k, so you have to make compromises. You've got a couple places to eat like Cafe Sazon and you're right next to the W&OD Trail. It isn't like living in Penrose or further up the Pike, but the price of those condos is comparable to what you'd be paying in rent.

DP - I agree the crime is not that high there and you are safer than people think. I do think its pretty gutsy of that company to build condos there. I don't know that many people who want a condo want to live that far down the Pike, at least not for the size of the units. Some of them are quite small. When I first looked through the floor plans, I thought these would end up being sold to investors to rent out. That part of the Pike will change, but it has been slow to happen. I think the Food Star leaving will be a good thing - it will let people who drive through see that the area is really changing. The mixed retail will be nice.

I'm looking forward to the retail. I think we could end up with some decent restaurants, because unlike other parts of the Pike, we have nearby employers of professionals who could walk over and create lunchtime foot traffic (from the Foreign Affairs center and the National Guards center). And because there's not a lot of competition in walking distance, dinner service could do well, too.

I think it really depends on the rents. The county requires street level retail, IIRC, but developers don't seem to care if they can get businesses in there or not, and based on the empty storefronts and turnover around penrose square, I'd say the rents are usually too high.

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Look at the crime reports over time. And a lot of the crime is just a block or two away. Sorry, even the police will tell you to be cautious around those neighborhoods. I live there, I know.

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Anonymous wrote:And food star condos are very small. Same with trafalgar flats. A lot of people are worried that even with the lower prices, trafalgar flats may not sell and may switch to apartments. That has happened before in arlington. The location is absolutely horrible. I cannot imagine anyone investing their money on a condo on that part of the Pike that will never get better. And, at night there is absolutely street crime on those very streets on a regular basis. Just read the crime reports.

The location definitely isn't Ballston or Shirlington, but it isn't horrible. I did look up those crime reports. They show one aggravated assault and a bunch of thefts. In fact fewer thefts than around Courthouse/Clarendon - which stands to reason because you've got a lot of people spending money there. There aren't many places left in Arlington to get a new condo for $200k, so you have to make compromises. You've got a couple places to eat like Cafe Sazon and you're right next to the W&OD Trail. It isn't like living in Penrose or further up the Pike, but the price of those condos is comparable to what you'd be paying in rent.

DP - I agree the crime is not that high there and you are safer than people think. I do think its pretty gutsy of that company to build condos there. I don't know that many people who want a condo want to live that far down the Pike, at least not for the size of the units. Some of them are quite small. When I first looked through the floor plans, I thought these would end up being sold to investors to rent out. That part of the Pike will change, but it has been slow to happen. I think the Food Star leaving will be a good thing - it will let people who drive through see that the area is really changing. The mixed retail will be nice.

I'm looking forward to the retail. I think we could end up with some decent restaurants, because unlike other parts of the Pike, we have nearby employers of professionals who could walk over and create lunchtime foot traffic (from the Foreign Affairs center and the National Guards center). And because there's not a lot of competition in walking distance, dinner service could do well, too.

It’s a bit of a hike from the National Guard Center on 50, no?

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Anonymous wrote:And food star condos are very small. Same with trafalgar flats. A lot of people are worried that even with the lower prices, trafalgar flats may not sell and may switch to apartments. That has happened before in arlington. The location is absolutely horrible. I cannot imagine anyone investing their money on a condo on that part of the Pike that will never get better. And, at night there is absolutely street crime on those very streets on a regular basis. Just read the crime reports.

The location definitely isn't Ballston or Shirlington, but it isn't horrible. I did look up those crime reports. They show one aggravated assault and a bunch of thefts. In fact fewer thefts than around Courthouse/Clarendon - which stands to reason because you've got a lot of people spending money there. There aren't many places left in Arlington to get a new condo for $200k, so you have to make compromises. You've got a couple places to eat like Cafe Sazon and you're right next to the W&OD Trail. It isn't like living in Penrose or further up the Pike, but the price of those condos is comparable to what you'd be paying in rent.

DP - I agree the crime is not that high there and you are safer than people think. I do think its pretty gutsy of that company to build condos there. I don't know that many people who want a condo want to live that far down the Pike, at least not for the size of the units. Some of them are quite small. When I first looked through the floor plans, I thought these would end up being sold to investors to rent out. That part of the Pike will change, but it has been slow to happen. I think the Food Star leaving will be a good thing - it will let people who drive through see that the area is really changing. The mixed retail will be nice.

I'm looking forward to the retail. I think we could end up with some decent restaurants, because unlike other parts of the Pike, we have nearby employers of professionals who could walk over and create lunchtime foot traffic (from the Foreign Affairs center and the National Guards center). And because there's not a lot of competition in walking distance, dinner service could do well, too.

It’s a bit of a hike from the National Guard Center on 50, no?

No, like 4 blocks that are relatively flat. Is that a "hike?" They park further away than that in the neighborhood and they're in great shape, probably because they don't consider a 5 minute walk "a hike." And the Foreign Affairs center is 2 blocks away. The way they're orienting the Food Star site, the retail will be about a block N of the Pike. The entrance to the Foreign Affairs center on George Mason is is 2 blocks N of where the development will be, and the entrance to the National Guard center on Mason is 4 blocks N of the site. I see people walking from the Pentagon over to Pentagon City all the time for lunch. That's a longer walk and requires crossing busier roads.

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Anonymous wrote:And food star condos are very small. Same with trafalgar flats. A lot of people are worried that even with the lower prices, trafalgar flats may not sell and may switch to apartments. That has happened before in arlington. The location is absolutely horrible. I cannot imagine anyone investing their money on a condo on that part of the Pike that will never get better. And, at night there is absolutely street crime on those very streets on a regular basis. Just read the crime reports.

The location definitely isn't Ballston or Shirlington, but it isn't horrible. I did look up those crime reports. They show one aggravated assault and a bunch of thefts. In fact fewer thefts than around Courthouse/Clarendon - which stands to reason because you've got a lot of people spending money there. There aren't many places left in Arlington to get a new condo for $200k, so you have to make compromises. You've got a couple places to eat like Cafe Sazon and you're right next to the W&OD Trail. It isn't like living in Penrose or further up the Pike, but the price of those condos is comparable to what you'd be paying in rent.

DP - I agree the crime is not that high there and you are safer than people think. I do think its pretty gutsy of that company to build condos there. I don't know that many people who want a condo want to live that far down the Pike, at least not for the size of the units. Some of them are quite small. When I first looked through the floor plans, I thought these would end up being sold to investors to rent out. That part of the Pike will change, but it has been slow to happen. I think the Food Star leaving will be a good thing - it will let people who drive through see that the area is really changing. The mixed retail will be nice.

I'm looking forward to the retail. I think we could end up with some decent restaurants, because unlike other parts of the Pike, we have nearby employers of professionals who could walk over and create lunchtime foot traffic (from the Foreign Affairs center and the National Guards center). And because there's not a lot of competition in walking distance, dinner service could do well, too.

It’s a bit of a hike from the National Guard Center on 50, no?

No, like 4 blocks that are relatively flat. Is that a "hike?" They park further away than that in the neighborhood and they're in great shape, probably because they don't consider a 5 minute walk "a hike." And the Foreign Affairs center is 2 blocks away. The way they're orienting the Food Star site, the retail will be about a block N of the Pike. The entrance to the Foreign Affairs center on George Mason is is 2 blocks N of where the development will be, and the entrance to the National Guard center on Mason is 4 blocks N of the site. I see people walking from the Pentagon over to Pentagon City all the time for lunch. That's a longer walk and requires crossing busier roads.

Something tells me there's a cafeteria on site run by an outside vendor that is going to have better options and prices and convenience than whatever could open in the new development.

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Anonymous wrote:Look at the crime reports over time. And a lot of the crime is just a block or two away. Sorry, even the police will tell you to be cautious around those neighborhoods. I live there, I know.

We live in Columbia Forest, between the Pike and George Mason. Haven't seen anywhere near the danger you seem to be afraid of. People hanging out late outside the 7/11? Yeah. Breaking into parked cars at night? Yes, although most of them turned out to be unlocked. The folks in DC who have moved into transitional neighborhoods aren't worried about stuff like that. They're concerned about the monthly shootings/assaults/sex crimes that truly impact a family's well-being. You'll have to provide statistics to prove that's consistently happening on the Pike to any great degree.

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Anonymous wrote:Look at the crime reports over time. And a lot of the crime is just a block or two away. Sorry, even the police will tell you to be cautious around those neighborhoods. I live there, I know.

We live in Columbia Forest, between the Pike and George Mason. Haven't seen anywhere near the danger you seem to be afraid of. People hanging out late outside the 7/11? Yeah. Breaking into parked cars at night? Yes, although most of them turned out to be unlocked. The folks in DC who have moved into transitional neighborhoods aren't worried about stuff like that. They're concerned about the monthly shootings/assaults/sex crimes that truly impact a family's well-being. You'll have to provide statistics to prove that's consistently happening on the Pike to any great degree.

Dp- yeah. Orders of magnitude difference between that area of the Pike and even say Petworth ( which is fairly gentrified)
Arlington is basically safe all over.
Although I would be concerned walking around Rosslyn/Ballston alone in the middle of the night.

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Take a look for yourself.

http://communitycrimemap.com/?address=Arlington,VA

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Anonymous wrote:And food star condos are very small. Same with trafalgar flats. A lot of people are worried that even with the lower prices, trafalgar flats may not sell and may switch to apartments. That has happened before in arlington. The location is absolutely horrible. I cannot imagine anyone investing their money on a condo on that part of the Pike that will never get better. And, at night there is absolutely street crime on those very streets on a regular basis. Just read the crime reports.

The location definitely isn't Ballston or Shirlington, but it isn't horrible. I did look up those crime reports. They show one aggravated assault and a bunch of thefts. In fact fewer thefts than around Courthouse/Clarendon - which stands to reason because you've got a lot of people spending money there. There aren't many places left in Arlington to get a new condo for $200k, so you have to make compromises. You've got a couple places to eat like Cafe Sazon and you're right next to the W&OD Trail. It isn't like living in Penrose or further up the Pike, but the price of those condos is comparable to what you'd be paying in rent.

DP - I agree the crime is not that high there and you are safer than people think. I do think its pretty gutsy of that company to build condos there. I don't know that many people who want a condo want to live that far down the Pike, at least not for the size of the units. Some of them are quite small. When I first looked through the floor plans, I thought these would end up being sold to investors to rent out. That part of the Pike will change, but it has been slow to happen. I think the Food Star leaving will be a good thing - it will let people who drive through see that the area is really changing. The mixed retail will be nice.

I'm looking forward to the retail. I think we could end up with some decent restaurants, because unlike other parts of the Pike, we have nearby employers of professionals who could walk over and create lunchtime foot traffic (from the Foreign Affairs center and the National Guards center). And because there's not a lot of competition in walking distance, dinner service could do well, too.

It’s a bit of a hike from the National Guard Center on 50, no?

No, like 4 blocks that are relatively flat. Is that a "hike?" They park further away than that in the neighborhood and they're in great shape, probably because they don't consider a 5 minute walk "a hike." And the Foreign Affairs center is 2 blocks away. The way they're orienting the Food Star site, the retail will be about a block N of the Pike. The entrance to the Foreign Affairs center on George Mason is is 2 blocks N of where the development will be, and the entrance to the National Guard center on Mason is 4 blocks N of the site. I see people walking from the Pentagon over to Pentagon City all the time for lunch. That's a longer walk and requires crossing busier roads.

Something tells me there's a cafeteria on site run by an outside vendor that is going to have better options and prices and convenience than whatever could open in the new development.

You know, many people like to go out for lunch, right? Almost every workplace has a cafeteria, and yet, people still go out to eat. People even buy coffee on their way to work when there's a free coffee machine in the break room. So funny that.

What else you got?

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Anonymous wrote:Take a look for yourself.

http://communitycrimemap.com/?address=Arlington,VA

OMG, Clarendon and the R-B corridor are SO UNSAFE. North Arlington is a pit.

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Anonymous wrote:Take a look for yourself.

http://communitycrimemap.com/?address=Arlington,VA

OMG, Clarendon and the R-B corridor are SO UNSAFE. North Arlington is a pit.

There are way more crimes around the Metros than on Columbia Pike, according to this. The Pike has its moments, but its relatively safe, compared to how it used to be 15 years ago, and that wasn't even that bad. There has been some problems with W & OD trail and assaults, but according to this, nothing recently.