Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study
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Anonymous
It’s easy to achieve. Just change the criteria for FARM eligibility, like how the grade inflation was done. |
Anonymous
| attention to entire wootton HS cluster, none of the current 4 options is ideal for the wootton cluster as a whole, as it will be split up the most. Choosing one option will cause another cluster to be out of wootton and forced to go to crown or QO. Someone from Dufief comment that their community is small overall and is bullied by current redistricting proposal, and further suggest Travaliah cluster should go to QO. For those of you having the same thought, please reconsider first. As current all 4 options will create big disruption in the greater wootton cluster, choosing one option over another one would always cause some group/communities to be forced out from wootton HS, I personally from Other than Dufief cluster urge everyone in the wootton cluster to stick together and work together as one greater cluster to voice for no change to current wootton HS cluster, and all ES clusters currently under wootton HS cluster should not be split. We don’t want Dufief to be forced out, nor we want ourselves voted out by others, so please stick together and push for better solution. |
Anonymous
Although I don’t love it, I feel the same. The kids will still be at a W school and my property value remains the same. It’s a win for us. This "W" school thing is such BS. I was at a non-W MCPS high school and I have a fantastic career and multiple gradate degrees. I have friends who went to "W" schools and are no more successful than I am, many less successful. Even the "worst" high school in Montgomery County is better than 99% of the schools around this country. People need to chill out. Your kids will be just fine at Crown. There are kids at RM and Rockville and Gaithersburg who will go on to be doctors, lawyer, and scientists. People need to get over themselves. +10000 I graduated from Rockville HS and am very successful. I know many of my classmates have also done very well for themselves. It’s not where you go to school, it’s having the parental support that makes a kid succeed. It doesn’t matter how you switch up the demographics A kid will succeed if it is important to the family. If the parents value education, the kid will feel it and understand it. My parents valued education and told me it is something no one can take away from me. People are not entitled to got to a W school because they bought a home in a certain area. You need a new real estate agent if that is the case. The boundary study has been discussed at least for the last 5 years. |
Anonymous
This "W" school thing is such BS. I was at a non-W MCPS high school and I have a fantastic career and multiple gradate degrees. I have friends who went to "W" schools and are no more successful than I am, many less successful. Even the "worst" high school in Montgomery County is better than 99% of the schools around this country. People need to chill out. Your kids will be just fine at Crown. There are kids at RM and Rockville and Gaithersburg who will go on to be doctors, lawyer, and scientists. People need to get over themselves. +10000 I graduated from Rockville HS and am very successful. I know many of my classmates have also done very well for themselves. It’s not where you go to school, it’s having the parental support that makes a kid succeed. It doesn’t matter how you switch up the demographics A kid will succeed if it is important to the family. If the parents value education, the kid will feel it and understand it. My parents valued education and told me it is something no one can take away from me. People are not entitled to got to a W school because they bought a home in a certain area. You need a new real estate agent if that is the case. The boundary study has been discussed at least for the last 5 years. While Rockville High might not be the strongest school academically based on test scores and student's post graduation success, it's a great community. We know several people who went to Rockville High and still live in that area with their own families. Some of the people that left the area always say that they wouldn't hesitate to move back to that area. And we know a family that did a COSA because they wanted their kids to attend Rockville High. A while back there were a lot of posts about Manor Woods and we know a lot of families that moved there. including graduates from W schools. The Manor Woods swim team has family members take over whole pools when they visit other pools during meets and the meets practically take all night with the number of swimmers they have. It helps a lot that Rockville High only has one middle school feeding into it. (or last time I looked) And there are some programs that act like a feeder program for the high school team. Darnestown has some similar feeder programs for the Quince Orchard High sports teams. It's a great community and don't think anyone would consider it a bad school. The issue with these new proposals and options is that they're threatening to break up some communities. |
Anonymous
| A friend of mine wrote in our fourth grade parent chat that “Wayside complaining they are going to Wootton instead of Churchill is like complaining you’re going to Bali instead of the Maldives” |
Anonymous
Won't stop saying this, no matter how many times we have talked her through the data. Her obsession with tearing down RM is fascinating in a way. |
Anonymous
This. I’m in another Churchill ES and am concerned we will be moved. If not now it’ll happen. These initial options are a smoke screen for mass bussing. The BOE for MCPS for years is a bunch of lunatics hellbent on making the district progressive as hell. I’m independent but have voted for the Democrats for years, but the crazy leftward lurch the party has taken is not good and likely why Trump is in office. |
Anonymous
| Does anyone know why Wootton or Magruder hasn’t been rebuilt? |
Anonymous
| As someone who doesn’t know the Wootton district too well, can someone tell me what each of the elementary schools are like area/demographics wise?seems like they are most affected by this plan, and I’m wondering why that is. |
Anonymous
| It's Quince Orchard and Wootton with the biggest changes because Crown is between those two schools. |
Anonymous
+10000 I graduated from Rockville HS and am very successful. I know many of my classmates have also done very well for themselves. It’s not where you go to school, it’s having the parental support that makes a kid succeed. It doesn’t matter how you switch up the demographics A kid will succeed if it is important to the family. If the parents value education, the kid will feel it and understand it. My parents valued education and told me it is something no one can take away from me. People are not entitled to got to a W school because they bought a home in a certain area. You need a new real estate agent if that is the case. The boundary study has been discussed at least for the last 5 years. While Rockville High might not be the strongest school academically based on test scores and student's post graduation success, it's a great community. We know several people who went to Rockville High and still live in that area with their own families. Some of the people that left the area always say that they wouldn't hesitate to move back to that area. And we know a family that did a COSA because they wanted their kids to attend Rockville High. A while back there were a lot of posts about Manor Woods and we know a lot of families that moved there. including graduates from W schools. The Manor Woods swim team has family members take over whole pools when they visit other pools during meets and the meets practically take all night with the number of swimmers they have. It helps a lot that Rockville High only has one middle school feeding into it. (or last time I looked) And there are some programs that act like a feeder program for the high school team. Darnestown has some similar feeder programs for the Quince Orchard High sports teams. It's a great community and don't think anyone would consider it a bad school. The issue with these new proposals and options is that they're threatening to break up some communities. Anyone here follow HS recruiting in basketball/football? The 5 star system? Trying to draw a comparison. Generally speaking, there are likely many more “4-5*” kids at the W schools, compared to say a non-W one around the Crown/Damascus region where there may be more “3-4*”, or the down county consortium which is primarily littered with unrated or 2-3* kids. Now, can there be some underachiever in a W, and say a 4-5* in a lesser than school district? Sure. But not as many. Would be curious how much the average Churchill grad ends up making compared to say the average… Northwest grad. Spitballin’ here, but maybe like, $275K compared to $100K? |
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Yikes the quote thing got jacked up, ignore my above post and just see it split up to only what I said, below:
Trying to draw a comparison. Generally speaking, there are likely many more “4-5*” kids at the W schools, compared to say a non-W one around the Crown/Damascus region where there may be more “3-4*”, or the down county consortium which is primarily littered with unrated or 2-3* kids. Now, can there be some underachiever in a W, and say a 4-5* in a lesser than school district? Sure. But not as many. Would be curious how much the average Churchill grad ends up making compared to say the average… Northwest grad. Spitballin’ here, but maybe like, $275K compared to $100K? |
Anonymous
Just look at the matriculations. The W schools have multiple seniors going to ivies. Not the case in non-W schools. We're in the Wayside district and I am not worried about the change, although Churchill is much closer. As long as my home value stays intact, I am fine with it. |
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I don’t know why people talk about RM like it is a high poverty school. It only has a 28% FARMS rate. It’s a hair below the W schools economically, and it’s wealthier than QO, Sherwood, Damascus, Blake, and every DCC/NEC school. BCC is socio-economically closer to RM than it is to every W school except for WJ.
RM consistently ranks in the top 10 high schools in MD. There are other high schools in MCPS with magnet programs that still don’t rank anywhere near that high, so clearly it’s not just magnet students who are high-performing. And frankly, WJ families who will be redistricted to Woodward are going to attend a high school that is much higher FARMS than RM. |
Anonymous
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We moved from a QO-zoned neighborhood to a Wootton one when our kids started school (which may get shifted now) so I completely get all the anxiety.
I’m also a school integration researcher and wanted to share a few considerations: 1) School integration is one of the most effective ways of improving school quality. There’s tons of research showing integrated schools significantly reduce achievement gaps - students from underresourced communities perform better and crucially students from resourced communities perform just as well as they always have - their test scores do not decline at all. 2) Students from well resourced communities also see benefits - as adults they are more open to other people’s perspectives, better communicators, more tolerant of differences. 3) For those of you concerned about your kids’ future earnings, high performing kids from schools with higher FARM rates actually have a significantly better chance of getting into elite colleges than kids from a W school - if you move a student who is applying to an Ivy from a W school into QO/Gaithersburg etc., their odds of getting admitted increase - and again, evidence suggests that their academic performance will not go down because of that move. For this boundary study to work and to help create an MCPS that doesn’t have such a massive bifurcation between its high and low performing schools, the district needs to build an affirmative case for why these moves matter and a coalition of supporters - something they absolutely have not done. But there is a case to be made that these moves can be good for all kids, including those who parents don’t have the resources to effectively advocate for their desired outcome. |