Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment

[Anonymous]

“It is a scandal that the city sells public land to developers cheaply in the expectation of affordable housing and what we get instead is a glut of luxury housing while the need for affordable housing is in crisis,” said Nick DelleDonne, speaking for the Wardman Hotel Strategy Team (WHST) on December 14 at a Council hearing for Bill 25-39, the Common Ground Amendment Act, introduced by Councilmember Janeese Lewis George.

Two prime examples are the Chevy Chase property and the police and fire station complex at 1617 U St. NW, which is one of the last large public parcels remaining in the city. In the latter case DMPED held public meetings where virtually all public comment opposed the sale of the property. “That voice is being ignored as the process proceeds,” said DelleDonne.

The Wardman Team applauds the purposes of the bill to require more in-depth analysis prior to the surplus of District land and community engagement in real property surplus and disposition decisions, but remains skeptical that it addresses the problems. The record for comment is open until Dec. 21.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“It is a scandal that the city sells public land to developers cheaply in the expectation of affordable housing and what we get instead is a glut of luxury housing while the need for affordable housing is in crisis,” said Nick DelleDonne, speaking for the Wardman Hotel Strategy Team (WHST) on December 14 at a Council hearing for Bill 25-39, the Common Ground Amendment Act, introduced by Councilmember Janeese Lewis George.

Two prime examples are the Chevy Chase property and the police and fire station complex at 1617 U St. NW, which is one of the last large public parcels remaining in the city. In the latter case DMPED held public meetings where virtually all public comment opposed the sale of the property. “That voice is being ignored as the process proceeds,” said DelleDonne.

The Wardman Team applauds the purposes of the bill to require more in-depth analysis prior to the surplus of District land and community engagement in real property surplus and disposition decisions, but remains skeptical that it addresses the problems. The record for comment is open until Dec. 21.

Then it is a good thing the city isn't selling land to developers, at least where the Chevy Chase Community Center is concerned.

It kind of matters when people are articulating a position on an issue to use the basis of fact as part of the dialogue. Because lying and gaslighting truly undermine the position.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“It is a scandal that the city sells public land to developers cheaply in the expectation of affordable housing and what we get instead is a glut of luxury housing while the need for affordable housing is in crisis,” said Nick DelleDonne, speaking for the Wardman Hotel Strategy Team (WHST) on December 14 at a Council hearing for Bill 25-39, the Common Ground Amendment Act, introduced by Councilmember Janeese Lewis George.

Two prime examples are the Chevy Chase property and the police and fire station complex at 1617 U St. NW, which is one of the last large public parcels remaining in the city. In the latter case DMPED held public meetings where virtually all public comment opposed the sale of the property. “That voice is being ignored as the process proceeds,” said DelleDonne.

The Wardman Team applauds the purposes of the bill to require more in-depth analysis prior to the surplus of District land and community engagement in real property surplus and disposition decisions, but remains skeptical that it addresses the problems. The record for comment is open until Dec. 21.

Then it is a good thing the city isn't selling land to developers, at least where the Chevy Chase Community Center is concerned.

It kind of matters when people are articulating a position on an issue to use the basis of fact as part of the dialogue. Because lying and gaslighting truly undermine the position.

A distinction without a difference. A 99-year ground lease is actually even more favorable to the developer, who will not have to put up the considerable price to purchase the land and will build a cheap building that won't last that long. In other words, well before the lease is up it won't care about the residual value of the building. Bowser has to stop providing DC assets to her crony developers at sweetheart prices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“It is a scandal that the city sells public land to developers cheaply in the expectation of affordable housing and what we get instead is a glut of luxury housing while the need for affordable housing is in crisis,” said Nick DelleDonne, speaking for the Wardman Hotel Strategy Team (WHST) on December 14 at a Council hearing for Bill 25-39, the Common Ground Amendment Act, introduced by Councilmember Janeese Lewis George.

Two prime examples are the Chevy Chase property and the police and fire station complex at 1617 U St. NW, which is one of the last large public parcels remaining in the city. In the latter case DMPED held public meetings where virtually all public comment opposed the sale of the property. “That voice is being ignored as the process proceeds,” said DelleDonne.

The Wardman Team applauds the purposes of the bill to require more in-depth analysis prior to the surplus of District land and community engagement in real property surplus and disposition decisions, but remains skeptical that it addresses the problems. The record for comment is open until Dec. 21.

Then it is a good thing the city isn't selling land to developers, at least where the Chevy Chase Community Center is concerned.

It kind of matters when people are articulating a position on an issue to use the basis of fact as part of the dialogue. Because lying and gaslighting truly undermine the position.

But that is Nick, Ed, and Lance's specialty skillset!!!!

[Anonymous]

Nick, Ed and Lance?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nick, Ed and Lance?

Nick = Nick DellaDonne, the erstwhile bike opponent who has been caught on video yelling at children with a megaphone.

No idea who Ed and Lance are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“It is a scandal that the city sells public land to developers cheaply in the expectation of affordable housing and what we get instead is a glut of luxury housing while the need for affordable housing is in crisis,” said Nick DelleDonne, speaking for the Wardman Hotel Strategy Team (WHST) on December 14 at a Council hearing for Bill 25-39, the Common Ground Amendment Act, introduced by Councilmember Janeese Lewis George.

Two prime examples are the Chevy Chase property and the police and fire station complex at 1617 U St. NW, which is one of the last large public parcels remaining in the city. In the latter case DMPED held public meetings where virtually all public comment opposed the sale of the property. “That voice is being ignored as the process proceeds,” said DelleDonne.

The Wardman Team applauds the purposes of the bill to require more in-depth analysis prior to the surplus of District land and community engagement in real property surplus and disposition decisions, but remains skeptical that it addresses the problems. The record for comment is open until Dec. 21.

Then it is a good thing the city isn't selling land to developers, at least where the Chevy Chase Community Center is concerned.

It kind of matters when people are articulating a position on an issue to use the basis of fact as part of the dialogue. Because lying and gaslighting truly undermine the position.

A distinction without a difference. A 99-year ground lease is actually even more favorable to the developer, who will not have to put up the considerable price to purchase the land and will build a cheap building that won't last that long. In other words, well before the lease is up it won't care about the residual value of the building. Bowser has to stop providing DC assets to her crony developers at sweetheart prices.

Do you oppose ground leases in all cases then? Or just this one? When in your mind would it make sense?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nick, Ed and Lance?

Nick = Nick DellaDonne, the erstwhile bike opponent who has been caught on video yelling at children with a megaphone.

No idea who Ed and Lance are.

Ed Hanlon, his buddy attorney who Chevy Choice Voice retained. Lance is a lackey of theirs who is a frequent agitator on the AdMo listserv and in the public meetings.

Anyway, while certainly they hate bikes and cyclists, the thing they dislike even more is affordable housing and change in the neighborhoods of the city that takes the form of development.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“It is a scandal that the city sells public land to developers cheaply in the expectation of affordable housing and what we get instead is a glut of luxury housing while the need for affordable housing is in crisis,” said Nick DelleDonne, speaking for the Wardman Hotel Strategy Team (WHST) on December 14 at a Council hearing for Bill 25-39, the Common Ground Amendment Act, introduced by Councilmember Janeese Lewis George.

Two prime examples are the Chevy Chase property and the police and fire station complex at 1617 U St. NW, which is one of the last large public parcels remaining in the city. In the latter case DMPED held public meetings where virtually all public comment opposed the sale of the property. “That voice is being ignored as the process proceeds,” said DelleDonne.

The Wardman Team applauds the purposes of the bill to require more in-depth analysis prior to the surplus of District land and community engagement in real property surplus and disposition decisions, but remains skeptical that it addresses the problems. The record for comment is open until Dec. 21.

Then it is a good thing the city isn't selling land to developers, at least where the Chevy Chase Community Center is concerned.

It kind of matters when people are articulating a position on an issue to use the basis of fact as part of the dialogue. Because lying and gaslighting truly undermine the position.

A distinction without a difference. A 99-year ground lease is actually even more favorable to the developer, who will not have to put up the considerable price to purchase the land and will build a cheap building that won't last that long. In other words, well before the lease is up it won't care about the residual value of the building. Bowser has to stop providing DC assets to her crony developers at sweetheart prices.

In your mind it is without a difference, but the fact remains, the city owns the land and will continue to own the land. The developer will be responsible for building a new library, a new community center and new housing. They will also be responsible for maintaining that housing over the course of the lease. So it is in their interest not to build something that will require a lot of maintenance as the lease hits the latter decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“It is a scandal that the city sells public land to developers cheaply in the expectation of affordable housing and what we get instead is a glut of luxury housing while the need for affordable housing is in crisis,” said Nick DelleDonne, speaking for the Wardman Hotel Strategy Team (WHST) on December 14 at a Council hearing for Bill 25-39, the Common Ground Amendment Act, introduced by Councilmember Janeese Lewis George.

Two prime examples are the Chevy Chase property and the police and fire station complex at 1617 U St. NW, which is one of the last large public parcels remaining in the city. In the latter case DMPED held public meetings where virtually all public comment opposed the sale of the property. “That voice is being ignored as the process proceeds,” said DelleDonne.

The Wardman Team applauds the purposes of the bill to require more in-depth analysis prior to the surplus of District land and community engagement in real property surplus and disposition decisions, but remains skeptical that it addresses the problems. The record for comment is open until Dec. 21.

Then it is a good thing the city isn't selling land to developers, at least where the Chevy Chase Community Center is concerned.

It kind of matters when people are articulating a position on an issue to use the basis of fact as part of the dialogue. Because lying and gaslighting truly undermine the position.

A distinction without a difference. A 99-year ground lease is actually even more favorable to the developer, who will not have to put up the considerable price to purchase the land and will build a cheap building that won't last that long. In other words, well before the lease is up it won't care about the residual value of the building. Bowser has to stop providing DC assets to her crony developers at sweetheart prices.

In your mind it is without a difference, but the fact remains, the city owns the land and will continue to own the land. The developer will be responsible for building a new library, a new community center and new housing. They will also be responsible for maintaining that housing over the course of the lease. So it is in their interest not to build something that will require a lot of maintenance as the lease hits the latter decades.

There are also things like, you know, legal provisions of that lease that make it actually different then simply selling the property. Like, if the leaseholder ignores the building and lets it slip into dis-repair, or if they mis-manage it, or if they build a shitty building that isn't up to what the city expects. All those things would break the lease.

But I guess you can continue to ignore this and just say they are giving away the property to developers. That makes you look more insane and so undermines your position, so I don't care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“It is a scandal that the city sells public land to developers cheaply in the expectation of affordable housing and what we get instead is a glut of luxury housing while the need for affordable housing is in crisis,” said Nick DelleDonne, speaking for the Wardman Hotel Strategy Team (WHST) on December 14 at a Council hearing for Bill 25-39, the Common Ground Amendment Act, introduced by Councilmember Janeese Lewis George.

Two prime examples are the Chevy Chase property and the police and fire station complex at 1617 U St. NW, which is one of the last large public parcels remaining in the city. In the latter case DMPED held public meetings where virtually all public comment opposed the sale of the property. “That voice is being ignored as the process proceeds,” said DelleDonne.

The Wardman Team applauds the purposes of the bill to require more in-depth analysis prior to the surplus of District land and community engagement in real property surplus and disposition decisions, but remains skeptical that it addresses the problems. The record for comment is open until Dec. 21.

Then it is a good thing the city isn't selling land to developers, at least where the Chevy Chase Community Center is concerned.

It kind of matters when people are articulating a position on an issue to use the basis of fact as part of the dialogue. Because lying and gaslighting truly undermine the position.

A distinction without a difference. A 99-year ground lease is actually even more favorable to the developer, who will not have to put up the considerable price to purchase the land and will build a cheap building that won't last that long. In other words, well before the lease is up it won't care about the residual value of the building. Bowser has to stop providing DC assets to her crony developers at sweetheart prices.

In your mind it is without a difference, but the fact remains, the city owns the land and will continue to own the land. The developer will be responsible for building a new library, a new community center and new housing. They will also be responsible for maintaining that housing over the course of the lease. So it is in their interest not to build something that will require a lot of maintenance as the lease hits the latter decades.

So you're saying that the library and no community center, etc. will be built with no public funds at all? Where is that committed to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nick, Ed and Lance?

Nick = Nick DellaDonne, the erstwhile bike opponent who has been caught on video yelling at children with a megaphone.

No idea who Ed and Lance are.

Ed Hanlon, his buddy attorney who Chevy Choice Voice retained. Lance is a lackey of theirs who is a frequent agitator on the AdMo listserv and in the public meetings.

Anyway, while certainly they hate bikes and cyclists, the thing they dislike even more is affordable housing and change in the neighborhoods of the city that takes the form of development.

Are they the sparring partners of Trump Growth Bob Ward?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nick, Ed and Lance?

Nick = Nick DellaDonne, the erstwhile bike opponent who has been caught on video yelling at children with a megaphone.

No idea who Ed and Lance are.

He's not erstwhile, as far as I know. He's still, currently, running around hating bicycles and everything and everyone associated with them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nick, Ed and Lance?

Nick = Nick DellaDonne, the erstwhile bike opponent who has been caught on video yelling at children with a megaphone.

No idea who Ed and Lance are.

Ed Hanlon, his buddy attorney who Chevy Choice Voice retained. Lance is a lackey of theirs who is a frequent agitator on the AdMo listserv and in the public meetings.

Anyway, while certainly they hate bikes and cyclists, the thing they dislike even more is affordable housing and change in the neighborhoods of the city that takes the form of development.

These "nothing can/should ever change because its perfect the way it is" fools. Bound to show up a community meeting or development site near you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nick, Ed and Lance?

Nick = Nick DellaDonne, the erstwhile bike opponent who has been caught on video yelling at children with a megaphone.

No idea who Ed and Lance are.

Ed Hanlon, his buddy attorney who Chevy Choice Voice retained. Lance is a lackey of theirs who is a frequent agitator on the AdMo listserv and in the public meetings.

Anyway, while certainly they hate bikes and cyclists, the thing they dislike even more is affordable housing and change in the neighborhoods of the city that takes the form of development.

These "nothing can/should ever change because its perfect the way it is" fools. Bound to show up a community meeting or development site near you.

Change for the sake of change or unneeded density also is a real problem.