It feels like Christmas - DCPS adopts CDC rules!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who is deciding whether good masking protocols were followed well enough that no quarantine is warranted for unvaxxed kids? I doubt any school/teacher is going to say they’ve been lax about masking, but some will be. And then there’s lunchtime…

I'm a teacher with a baby at home and I'm pretty worried about this. My school is masks required but not enforced. In the spring there were multiple kids who would flat out just not wear a mask and would roam the room and halls (which is totally normal for my school). If there's a class of 20 kids and 3 of them don't wear masks, if there's a positive case, will they tell us which kid it is to confirm whether he/she wore a mask? Probably not. I bet they will just assume all kids wore masks all the time.

Technically, whether it's one of the under-masked kids who tested positive or not won't matter. In your classroom, over two weeks, the 3 kids who don't wear their masks will serve as the amplification system for the infected person's exhaled virus. One or more of them will catch it and then the next week they will broadcast it to the other kids, in the classroom and those who walk the halls in the hour following the unmasked infected kids. This thing is contagious. It isn't last year's virus.

Same PP. If we care about keeping them safe from the virus, or even if we cared about flattening the pediatric ICU curve, a small curve at the measure of the small number of pediatric ICU beds in this city, we would do better.

We would do real asymptomatic testing of everyone, everyone including vaccinated teachers, because it is an accepted fact, a CDC-broadcasted fact in fact, that vaccinated adults can catch and transmit the virus and therefore must continue to undergo asymptomatic testing.

We would allow students to participate in synchronous learning.

We would provide much more specific guidance and rules about the type of masks children and adults must wear.

We would provide much more specific guidance about in-classroom unmasking, or indoor unmasking. By stating that it cannot happen or superspreader events will happen.

Instead, we're setting the stage for simultaneous superspreader events around the city, while smashing every warning system that would let us know they're happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is deciding whether good masking protocols were followed well enough that no quarantine is warranted for unvaxxed kids? I doubt any school/teacher is going to say they’ve been lax about masking, but some will be. And then there’s lunchtime…

I'm a teacher with a baby at home and I'm pretty worried about this. My school is masks required but not enforced. In the spring there were multiple kids who would flat out just not wear a mask and would roam the room and halls (which is totally normal for my school). If there's a class of 20 kids and 3 of them don't wear masks, if there's a positive case, will they tell us which kid it is to confirm whether he/she wore a mask? Probably not. I bet they will just assume all kids wore masks all the time.

You realize many people worked in person throughout this last year and half with babies at home? And for most of that time they weren't vaccinated?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is deciding whether good masking protocols were followed well enough that no quarantine is warranted for unvaxxed kids? I doubt any school/teacher is going to say they’ve been lax about masking, but some will be. And then there’s lunchtime…

I'm a teacher with a baby at home and I'm pretty worried about this. My school is masks required but not enforced. In the spring there were multiple kids who would flat out just not wear a mask and would roam the room and halls (which is totally normal for my school). If there's a class of 20 kids and 3 of them don't wear masks, if there's a positive case, will they tell us which kid it is to confirm whether he/she wore a mask? Probably not. I bet they will just assume all kids wore masks all the time.

This can't happen. It needs to be enforced. I would bring this up with your principal AND if need be, with all the other staff and parents, because it isn't ok.

And yes, you certainly should let the admin know if there is a positive case that you observed that child with no mask, they don't need to tell you who it is, they only need to know which kids are failing to wear masks well. Not that this should be allowed under any circumstances.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is deciding whether good masking protocols were followed well enough that no quarantine is warranted for unvaxxed kids? I doubt any school/teacher is going to say they’ve been lax about masking, but some will be. And then there’s lunchtime…

I'm a teacher with a baby at home and I'm pretty worried about this. My school is masks required but not enforced. In the spring there were multiple kids who would flat out just not wear a mask and would roam the room and halls (which is totally normal for my school). If there's a class of 20 kids and 3 of them don't wear masks, if there's a positive case, will they tell us which kid it is to confirm whether he/she wore a mask? Probably not. I bet they will just assume all kids wore masks all the time.

You realize many people worked in person throughout this last year and half with babies at home? And for most of that time they weren't vaccinated?

Teacher PP, you may ignore the person trolling you there. We know, they know, that delta is different from the original virus and previous variant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is deciding whether good masking protocols were followed well enough that no quarantine is warranted for unvaxxed kids? I doubt any school/teacher is going to say they’ve been lax about masking, but some will be. And then there’s lunchtime…

I'm a teacher with a baby at home and I'm pretty worried about this. My school is masks required but not enforced. In the spring there were multiple kids who would flat out just not wear a mask and would roam the room and halls (which is totally normal for my school). If there's a class of 20 kids and 3 of them don't wear masks, if there's a positive case, will they tell us which kid it is to confirm whether he/she wore a mask? Probably not. I bet they will just assume all kids wore masks all the time.

You realize many people worked in person throughout this last year and half with babies at home? And for most of that time they weren't vaccinated?

I do realize that. I also realize that literally no one worked at my school with 20 kids in a class and a baby at home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is deciding whether good masking protocols were followed well enough that no quarantine is warranted for unvaxxed kids? I doubt any school/teacher is going to say they’ve been lax about masking, but some will be. And then there’s lunchtime…

I'm a teacher with a baby at home and I'm pretty worried about this. My school is masks required but not enforced. In the spring there were multiple kids who would flat out just not wear a mask and would roam the room and halls (which is totally normal for my school). If there's a class of 20 kids and 3 of them don't wear masks, if there's a positive case, will they tell us which kid it is to confirm whether he/she wore a mask? Probably not. I bet they will just assume all kids wore masks all the time.

Technically, whether it's one of the under-masked kids who tested positive or not won't matter. In your classroom, over two weeks, the 3 kids who don't wear their masks will serve as the amplification system for the infected person's exhaled virus. One or more of them will catch it and then the next week they will broadcast it to the other kids, in the classroom and those who walk the halls in the hour following the unmasked infected kids. This thing is contagious. It isn't last year's virus.

Your understanding of this is a little mangled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is deciding whether good masking protocols were followed well enough that no quarantine is warranted for unvaxxed kids? I doubt any school/teacher is going to say they’ve been lax about masking, but some will be. And then there’s lunchtime…

I'm a teacher with a baby at home and I'm pretty worried about this. My school is masks required but not enforced. In the spring there were multiple kids who would flat out just not wear a mask and would roam the room and halls (which is totally normal for my school). If there's a class of 20 kids and 3 of them don't wear masks, if there's a positive case, will they tell us which kid it is to confirm whether he/she wore a mask? Probably not. I bet they will just assume all kids wore masks all the time.

You realize many people worked in person throughout this last year and half with babies at home? And for most of that time they weren't vaccinated?

I do realize that. I also realize that literally no one worked at my school with 20 kids in a class and a baby at home.

There were tons and tons of people who worked in more dangerous settings with babies at home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is deciding whether good masking protocols were followed well enough that no quarantine is warranted for unvaxxed kids? I doubt any school/teacher is going to say they’ve been lax about masking, but some will be. And then there’s lunchtime…

I'm a teacher with a baby at home and I'm pretty worried about this. My school is masks required but not enforced. In the spring there were multiple kids who would flat out just not wear a mask and would roam the room and halls (which is totally normal for my school). If there's a class of 20 kids and 3 of them don't wear masks, if there's a positive case, will they tell us which kid it is to confirm whether he/she wore a mask? Probably not. I bet they will just assume all kids wore masks all the time.

You realize many people worked in person throughout this last year and half with babies at home? And for most of that time they weren't vaccinated?

I do realize that. I also realize that literally no one worked at my school with 20 kids in a class and a baby at home.

There were tons and tons of people who worked in more dangerous settings with babies at home.

I didn't know that. Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is deciding whether good masking protocols were followed well enough that no quarantine is warranted for unvaxxed kids? I doubt any school/teacher is going to say they’ve been lax about masking, but some will be. And then there’s lunchtime…

I'm a teacher with a baby at home and I'm pretty worried about this. My school is masks required but not enforced. In the spring there were multiple kids who would flat out just not wear a mask and would roam the room and halls (which is totally normal for my school). If there's a class of 20 kids and 3 of them don't wear masks, if there's a positive case, will they tell us which kid it is to confirm whether he/she wore a mask? Probably not. I bet they will just assume all kids wore masks all the time.

This can't happen. It needs to be enforced. I would bring this up with your principal AND if need be, with all the other staff and parents, because it isn't ok.

And yes, you certainly should let the admin know if there is a positive case that you observed that child with no mask, they don't need to tell you who it is, they only need to know which kids are failing to wear masks well. Not that this should be allowed under any circumstances.

I'm at a school that for a variety of reasons, enforces nothing. There's just literally no way to enforce it. The kids generally don't want to be in school, the families can't keep them home, and if they are home they won't be doing online learning. It's a pretty lose-lose situation. The staff that taught in person last year raised the issue and got no where. The truth is that these are kids who probably shouldn't be in a traditional school setting regardless of COVID, but there just isn't an alternative setting available.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is deciding whether good masking protocols were followed well enough that no quarantine is warranted for unvaxxed kids? I doubt any school/teacher is going to say they’ve been lax about masking, but some will be. And then there’s lunchtime…

I'm a teacher with a baby at home and I'm pretty worried about this. My school is masks required but not enforced. In the spring there were multiple kids who would flat out just not wear a mask and would roam the room and halls (which is totally normal for my school). If there's a class of 20 kids and 3 of them don't wear masks, if there's a positive case, will they tell us which kid it is to confirm whether he/she wore a mask? Probably not. I bet they will just assume all kids wore masks all the time.

This can't happen. It needs to be enforced. I would bring this up with your principal AND if need be, with all the other staff and parents, because it isn't ok.

And yes, you certainly should let the admin know if there is a positive case that you observed that child with no mask, they don't need to tell you who it is, they only need to know which kids are failing to wear masks well. Not that this should be allowed under any circumstances.

I'm at a school that for a variety of reasons, enforces nothing. There's just literally no way to enforce it. The kids generally don't want to be in school, the families can't keep them home, and if they are home they won't be doing online learning. It's a pretty lose-lose situation. The staff that taught in person last year raised the issue and got no where. The truth is that these are kids who probably shouldn't be in a traditional school setting regardless of COVID, but there just isn't an alternative setting available.

Is this a high school setting? What are the chances to get kids vaxxed there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is deciding whether good masking protocols were followed well enough that no quarantine is warranted for unvaxxed kids? I doubt any school/teacher is going to say they’ve been lax about masking, but some will be. And then there’s lunchtime…

I'm a teacher with a baby at home and I'm pretty worried about this. My school is masks required but not enforced. In the spring there were multiple kids who would flat out just not wear a mask and would roam the room and halls (which is totally normal for my school). If there's a class of 20 kids and 3 of them don't wear masks, if there's a positive case, will they tell us which kid it is to confirm whether he/she wore a mask? Probably not. I bet they will just assume all kids wore masks all the time.

This can't happen. It needs to be enforced. I would bring this up with your principal AND if need be, with all the other staff and parents, because it isn't ok.

And yes, you certainly should let the admin know if there is a positive case that you observed that child with no mask, they don't need to tell you who it is, they only need to know which kids are failing to wear masks well. Not that this should be allowed under any circumstances.

I'm at a school that for a variety of reasons, enforces nothing. There's just literally no way to enforce it. The kids generally don't want to be in school, the families can't keep them home, and if they are home they won't be doing online learning. It's a pretty lose-lose situation. The staff that taught in person last year raised the issue and got no where. The truth is that these are kids who probably shouldn't be in a traditional school setting regardless of COVID, but there just isn't an alternative setting available.

Is this a high school setting? What are the chances to get kids vaxxed there?

Elementary, and I doubt many of our families will be rushing to get their kids vaxxed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is deciding whether good masking protocols were followed well enough that no quarantine is warranted for unvaxxed kids? I doubt any school/teacher is going to say they’ve been lax about masking, but some will be. And then there’s lunchtime…

I'm a teacher with a baby at home and I'm pretty worried about this. My school is masks required but not enforced. In the spring there were multiple kids who would flat out just not wear a mask and would roam the room and halls (which is totally normal for my school). If there's a class of 20 kids and 3 of them don't wear masks, if there's a positive case, will they tell us which kid it is to confirm whether he/she wore a mask? Probably not. I bet they will just assume all kids wore masks all the time.

Technically, whether it's one of the under-masked kids who tested positive or not won't matter. In your classroom, over two weeks, the 3 kids who don't wear their masks will serve as the amplification system for the infected person's exhaled virus. One or more of them will catch it and then the next week they will broadcast it to the other kids, in the classroom and those who walk the halls in the hour following the unmasked infected kids. This thing is contagious. It isn't last year's virus.

Same PP. If we care about keeping them safe from the virus, or even if we cared about flattening the pediatric ICU curve, a small curve at the measure of the small number of pediatric ICU beds in this city, we would do better.

We would do real asymptomatic testing of everyone, everyone including vaccinated teachers, because it is an accepted fact, a CDC-broadcasted fact in fact, that vaccinated adults can catch and transmit the virus and therefore must continue to undergo asymptomatic testing.

We would allow students to participate in synchronous learning.

We would provide much more specific guidance and rules about the type of masks children and adults must wear.

We would provide much more specific guidance about in-classroom unmasking, or indoor unmasking. By stating that it cannot happen or superspreader events will happen.

Instead, we're setting the stage for simultaneous superspreader events around the city, while smashing every warning system that would let us know they're happening.

It’s amazing that you feel empowered to make these doomsday predictions with such certainty when we don’t yet have much data how delta will actually play out in a school setting.

[Anonymous]

Delta in school setting in LA:

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-08-04/coronavirus-infections-increased-in-lausd-summer-school-but-affected-a-tiny-percentage

Turns out, not that big a deal!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Delta in school setting in LA:

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-08-04/coronavirus-infections-increased-in-lausd-summer-school-but-affected-a-tiny-percentage

Turns out, not that big a deal!

This is a dumb article.

The increase in infections found through regular coronavirus screening corresponded with the rise of the Delta variant. The summer program began with a few cases detected among about 44,000 students and staffers who attended in-person classes and were tested weekly. The nation’s second-largest school district enrolls about 465,000 K-12 students during the regular academic year.

Summer school classes started June 21 or June 22 — depending on the grade level — and concluded July 23. During the first week, the district recorded 20 infections among students. During the final week, the district recorded 59 infections, with a total of 174 student cases over the five weeks.

[Anonymous]

Now tell us about travel. That's what I need to know.