If your junior had a significant improvement in grade this year...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve not heard of any cheating.

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I think there are one or two very insecure parents who keep bleating about this and hoping everyone will believe them. It’s beyond old, not to mention transparent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve not heard of any cheating.

+1
I think there are one or two very insecure parents who keep bleating about this and hoping everyone will believe them. It’s beyond old, not to mention transparent.

I agree. It’s pathetic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve not heard of any cheating.

+1
I think there are one or two very insecure parents who keep bleating about this and hoping everyone will believe them. It’s beyond old, not to mention transparent.

I agree. It’s pathetic.

because most kids who cheat openly admit it????????

[Anonymous]

I have a rising senior. Everyone was doing their work and tests together. I don't know if that is cheating. But lots of group work going on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a rising senior. Everyone was doing their work and tests together. I don't know if that is cheating. But lots of group work going on.

Your kid might be a cheater but many are not. You must be so proud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a rising senior. Everyone was doing their work and tests together. I don't know if that is cheating. But lots of group work going on.

100% cheating. Tests are not supposed to be done together. Graded homework and Papers are not supposed to be written with your friend’s help. Your kid cheated all year and you had no idea?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve not heard of any cheating.

+1
I think there are one or two very insecure parents who keep bleating about this and hoping everyone will believe them. It’s beyond old, not to mention transparent.

I agree. It’s pathetic.

because most kids who cheat openly admit it????????

DP. No - because you continue to claim that all kids doing DL this year cheated. And you have zero proof or evidence of this, just your wacky paranoia. How about this: worry about your own kid and stop making it your mission to declare what you assume everyone else is up to. In short, get a life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve not heard of any cheating.

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I think there are one or two very insecure parents who keep bleating about this and hoping everyone will believe them. It’s beyond old, not to mention transparent.

HS Teacher. No dog in this fight but the cheating this year was just epic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve not heard of any cheating.

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I think there are one or two very insecure parents who keep bleating about this and hoping everyone will believe them. It’s beyond old, not to mention transparent.

I agree. It’s pathetic.

because most kids who cheat openly admit it????????

DP. No - because you continue to claim that all kids doing DL this year cheated. And you have zero proof or evidence of this, just your wacky paranoia. How about this: worry about your own kid and stop making it your mission to declare what you assume everyone else is up to. In short, get a life.

Why do you assume I posted anything like that? I didn’t. But yes, lots of kids cheated. Not all did, but not all didn’t. When you assume that no one cheated, you are turning a blind eye to it. No one is talking specifically about your kid. If you feel that they are, you have a guilty conscious for no reason.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the op touched a nerve in someone who is 100% hoping for elite admissions without test scores.

Actually, sounds like exactly the opposite. The OP clearly has a striver kid who is gunning for the Ivies. OP seems extremely threatened by anyone going test optional and possibly *gasp* getting admitted over her snowflake.

Eh...there is a different poster on this thread that seems very defensive of their test optional stance and very offended by any suggestion that the best strategy is to submit test scores

There are also a couple of posters who keep repeating things like “now you have no excuse not to test,” etc. - as if any excuse is needed. Some very good students simply don’t test well, period. Glad there is an option not to submit scores.

Sure, but if the test is offered for free during school, refusing to report the score is like reporting a P instead of a grade in a core class. Colleges assume the unreported grade is a D and the unreported SAT score is 25% or worse.

So why are you telling us this? Go tell the admissions people.

It sounds like you’re afraid that test optional will still mean...test optional.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the op touched a nerve in someone who is 100% hoping for elite admissions without test scores.

Actually, sounds like exactly the opposite. The OP clearly has a striver kid who is gunning for the Ivies. OP seems extremely threatened by anyone going test optional and possibly *gasp* getting admitted over her snowflake.

Eh...there is a different poster on this thread that seems very defensive of their test optional stance and very offended by any suggestion that the best strategy is to submit test scores

There are also a couple of posters who keep repeating things like “now you have no excuse not to test,” etc. - as if any excuse is needed. Some very good students simply don’t test well, period. Glad there is an option not to submit scores.

Sure, but if the test is offered for free during school, refusing to report the score is like reporting a P instead of a grade in a core class. Colleges assume the unreported grade is a D and the unreported SAT score is 25% or worse.

So why are you telling us this? Go tell the admissions people.

It sounds like you’re afraid that test optional will still mean...test optional.

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The PP (and others) seem to be trying to send some sort of message - that students who choose test optional are somehow poor students or not worthy of admission, at least compared to students who do send in scores. It’s really bizarre. You’d think they would simply worry about their own kid and not what others choose to do.

[Anonymous]

I can tell you that teachers at ALL levels of education (grade school through college & grad school) were told to err on the side of compassion this year. Assuming that most shortfalls could be attributed to COVID. So grading standards were likely easier.

Also, many teachers opted for open book tests, because there was no way to assure students were not cheating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the op touched a nerve in someone who is 100% hoping for elite admissions without test scores.

Actually, sounds like exactly the opposite. The OP clearly has a striver kid who is gunning for the Ivies. OP seems extremely threatened by anyone going test optional and possibly *gasp* getting admitted over her snowflake.

Eh...there is a different poster on this thread that seems very defensive of their test optional stance and very offended by any suggestion that the best strategy is to submit test scores

There are also a couple of posters who keep repeating things like “now you have no excuse not to test,” etc. - as if any excuse is needed. Some very good students simply don’t test well, period. Glad there is an option not to submit scores.

Sure, but if the test is offered for free during school, refusing to report the score is like reporting a P instead of a grade in a core class. Colleges assume the unreported grade is a D and the unreported SAT score is 25% or worse.

So why are you telling us this? Go tell the admissions people.

It sounds like you’re afraid that test optional will still mean...test optional.

+100
The PP (and others) seem to be trying to send some sort of message - that students who choose test optional are somehow poor students or not worthy of admission, at least compared to students who do send in scores. It’s really bizarre. You’d think they would simply worry about their own kid and not what others choose to do.

That is your own insecurities inside your head talking. People are just cautioning that applications with test scores are usually seen as stronger applications. It’s not opinion, it’s fact. They’re just trying to offer helpful advice. You are allowed to take it or leave it, but you don’t need to assume that it has ill intent. It just doesn’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous[b wrote:]I can tell you that teachers at ALL levels of education (grade school through college & grad school) were told to err on the side of compassion this year[/b]. Assuming that most shortfalls could be attributed to COVID. So grading standards were likely easier.

Also, many teachers opted for open book tests, because there was no way to assure students were not cheating.

And most were. But I can tell you that at least one of my son's teachers were not. And his GPA will be compared to the students who had teachers who were.

None of my kids' teachers had open book tests.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a rising senior. Everyone was doing their work and tests together. I don't know if that is cheating. But lots of group work going on.

100% cheating. Tests are not supposed to be done together. Graded homework and Papers are not supposed to be written with your friend’s help. Your kid cheated all year and you had no idea?

Kids have always done papers and homework together. And this was happening somewhat in lieu of class discussions.

Many of the test were open book aside from the ones they needed to sign the pledge.

The point is to learn. I think they learned more this way in study groups than they would have otherwise in remote learning.