How does circumcision work?

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Anonymous wrote:My doctor made about twenty bucks from doing the procedure, once the insurance company got through with everything. He's definitely NOT doing it for money.

I'm just thrilled that my son will look like his dad and his peers. Call me simple.




When will you be having your first "penis-matching" party for your son, your husband and your son's peers? Sounds like it'll be loads of fun.


LOL!!!!!!!!

My husband is circumcised but he chose not to circumcise our ds, and I supported that decision. A friend of mine had her DS circumcised because DH didn't want other boys to laugh at him in the locker room. This comment made me want to explode. I am not anti-circ, but why, why, why do people make such a big decision for such a stupid reason?


Not a stupid reason at all - a very sensible and mainstream reason. Gee, you sound like a great friend - did you tell your friend you think she's stupid.

Ridiculous.





So, it's a sensible reason because everyone else is doing it? Talk about ridiculous. How about thinking for yourself? And by the way, just because I think my friend's reason was stupid, doesn't mean I think she's stupid. I said nothing, even though she was clearly implying that my DS was going to be ridiculed in the locker room. I suppose you never disagree with your friend's choices because you're all carbon copies of each other.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My doctor made about twenty bucks from doing the procedure, once the insurance company got through with everything. He's definitely NOT doing it for money.

I'm just thrilled that my son will look like his dad and his peers. Call me simple.




When will you be having your first "penis-matching" party for your son, your husband and your son's peers? Sounds like it'll be loads of fun.


LOL!!!!!!!!

My husband is circumcised but he chose not to circumcise our ds, and I supported that decision. A friend of mine had her DS circumcised because DH didn't want other boys to laugh at him in the locker room. This comment made me want to explode. I am not anti-circ, but why, why, why do people make such a big decision for such a stupid reason?


Not a stupid reason at all - a very sensible and mainstream reason. Gee, you sound like a great friend - did you tell your friend you think she's stupid.

Ridiculous.


I have to ask: WHO IS PLAYING THE PENIS MATCHING GAME? Where do you get that boys care enough to play the matching penis game and that if a boy is not cut, he'll be traumatized for life? Where is the LOGIC in this?

Every individual is different. Nobody "matches." His penis size might not be the same as other boys. His hair might be curlier than other boys. His testicle might hang differently then other boys. Why stop at the foreskin when it comes to this "matching" madness?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My doctor made about twenty bucks from doing the procedure, once the insurance company got through with everything. He's definitely NOT doing it for money.

I'm just thrilled that my son will look like his dad and his peers. Call me simple.




When will you be having your first "penis-matching" party for your son, your husband and your son's peers? Sounds like it'll be loads of fun.


LOL!!!!!!!!

My husband is circumcised but he chose not to circumcise our ds, and I supported that decision. A friend of mine had her DS circumcised because DH didn't want other boys to laugh at him in the locker room. This comment made me want to explode. I am not anti-circ, but why, why, why do people make such a big decision for such a stupid reason?


Not a stupid reason at all - a very sensible and mainstream reason. Gee, you sound like a great friend - did you tell your friend you think she's stupid.

Ridiculous.


I have to ask: WHO IS PLAYING THE PENIS MATCHING GAME? Where do you get that boys care enough to play the matching penis game and that if a boy is not cut, he'll be traumatized for life? Where is the LOGIC in this?

Every individual is different. Nobody "matches." His penis size might not be the same as other boys. His hair might be curlier than other boys. His testicle might hang differently then other boys. Why stop at the foreskin when it comes to this "matching" madness?



Yuck.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My doctor made about twenty bucks from doing the procedure, once the insurance company got through with everything. He's definitely NOT doing it for money.

I'm just thrilled that my son will look like his dad and his peers. Call me simple.




When will you be having your first "penis-matching" party for your son, your husband and your son's peers? Sounds like it'll be loads of fun.


LOL!!!!!!!!

My husband is circumcised but he chose not to circumcise our ds, and I supported that decision. A friend of mine had her DS circumcised because DH didn't want other boys to laugh at him in the locker room. This comment made me want to explode. I am not anti-circ, but why, why, why do people make such a big decision for such a stupid reason?


Not a stupid reason at all - a very sensible and mainstream reason. Gee, you sound like a great friend - did you tell your friend you think she's stupid.

Ridiculous.


I have to ask: WHO IS PLAYING THE PENIS MATCHING GAME? Where do you get that boys care enough to play the matching penis game and that if a boy is not cut, he'll be traumatized for life? Where is the LOGIC in this?

Every individual is different. Nobody "matches." His penis size might not be the same as other boys. His hair might be curlier than other boys. His testicle might hang differently then other boys. Why stop at the foreskin when it comes to this "matching" madness?




Nobody! This is exactly why I was so frustrated when my friend made the locker room comment. My husband said guys don't check each other's penises out. Now, if women don't like an uncirc'd penis, that's a different story, but is it reason enough to perform surgery on a baby? I wish some dads would weigh in on this.
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I am sorry for your son if you see him as a brainless penis.


You are a complete a**hole, by the way.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A distinction must be made for religious circumcision, which carries the significance of a covenant with the Creator. Freedom of religion is paramount--even if those of us outside the religion don't understand it.

Circumcision with no meaning or purpose is just that--meaningless and purposeless.


So, it's Ok for religious reasons but not for other reasons? Like, if someone decides that they "believe" their is medical benefit, that's not Ok with you? You are a freaking fascist if you think YOU get to decide who does what and why. Keep your eyes on your own kid's penis and mind your own sanctimonius business.
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So, it's Ok for religious reasons but not for other reasons? Like, if someone decides that they "believe" their is medical benefit, that's not Ok with you? You are a freaking fascist if you think YOU get to decide who does what and why.


No one is deciding for others, merely contributing their opinion to the ethical part of the discussion. No one is saying you should not be allowed to do something wrong, only that their POV is that it's wrong, so let's refrain from name-calling and putting words in people's fingers.

A French study in South Africa found that circumcised men with similar sexual activity were 9 times less likely to contract HIV than their uncirc counterparts. The researchers ended the study early because they felt it would be unethical not to offer circumcision to the control group. All of these men were adults who consented to the procedure.

If you believe you are bound by religious law to circumcise your son on the 8th day of life as a symbolic commitment, that's what you have to do. If you believe there is a medical benefit which will start when he's an adult, it only seems right to me to allow him to be a conscious participant in the decision and procedure once he's an adult. I don't know of any other medical benefit, but would be open to hearing one.

Let's please be civil and remember the goal of this forum is to support each other, and on this thread, that means politely contributing POV and info to help others of us in our considerations of the procedure.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So, it's Ok for religious reasons but not for other reasons? Like, if someone decides that they "believe" their is medical benefit, that's not Ok with you? You are a freaking fascist if you think YOU get to decide who does what and why.


Everyone's rights are very important, including our childrens' rights.
Anonymous
Would you force circumcision on your son at 16yo or 18? If not, why would you do it as a baby?

In the back of my head, there is a thought that if we let them choose, few would freely choose it.
Anonymous
Eighty percent of white babies get circumcised each year. (Other groups are lower.) I think that the anti-circumcision zealots here are in the minority, thankfully, because the medical evidence re: AIDS and other STDs is overwhelmingly in favor of circumcision.

Feel free to flame away and call me brainless like you called other moms above. Because I think you're a little nutty on this topic.




Anonymous
Yes to circumcision, not to forced circumcision. See the diff?
Anonymous
The HIV transmission benefits ARE overwhelming. Getting circumcised is the right thing to do if men intend to have unprotected sex. But it should be their choice, that's all. Men have rights. Children have rights.

The civil rights pioneers were also in the minority. They were also speaking up for people whose rights were being denied. Thankfully, their "radical" ideas of equal rights are now the norm.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes to circumcision, not to forced circumcision. See the diff?


What are you talking about?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The HIV transmission benefits ARE overwhelming. Getting circumcised is the right thing to do if men intend to have unprotected sex. But it should be their choice, that's all. Men have rights. Children have rights.

The civil rights pioneers were also in the minority. They were also speaking up for people whose rights were being denied. Thankfully, their "radical" ideas of equal rights are now the norm.


Are you seriously comparing this to the Civil Rights Movement??? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Eighty percent of white babies get circumcised each year. (Other groups are lower.) I think that the anti-circumcision zealots here are in the minority, thankfully, because the medical evidence re: AIDS and other STDs is overwhelmingly in favor of circumcision.

Feel free to flame away and call me brainless like you called other moms above. Because I think you're a little nutty on this topic.







Agreed. It really has the feel of zealotry, doesn't it? And I also agree that this level of extremism is the minority, as it is on many other controversial topics. Reasonable people disagree on this subject and respect their different opinions. I have to question the level of intensity with which these moms go on and on about how horrible it is. I mean, get a grip already. I'd love to see the way these mothers approach other aspects of their sons' lives. Honestly, in deciding whether to circ my son the very few women I knew or discussed this with--besides friends from other countries/cultures that don't circ--have made so many other decisions I question or who are such smothering mothers or who, frankly, are just annoying, they didn't do much to convince me. Besides, their nosiness into the subject made me wonder if they were questioning their own choices and were trying to bully me into making the same one to feel better about it. In fact, I'm getting the same feeling here...desperate for validation, ladies?
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