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Anonymous
| I'm the poster from 12:29. I think it's probably TMI for this forum, but I will share this, the first time I saw an uncircumcised penis, it killed the mood. I mean KILLED the mood. |
Anonymous
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To 12:20 - The mohels in NY were from an ultra-religious sect and actually had the feds come after them for their practice.
Using ones mouth is NOT normal for any circumcision - in a hospital or with a mohel. Mohels use sterilized equipment and follow sanitation guidelines. Let's not freak out all people who choose a mohel based on the practice of a very, very few. |
Anonymous
Your post makes NO SENSE. I posted that a Mohel in NY State was passing herpes to baby boys via his mouth. I did not say anyone was a bad mother NOR did I say all babies who are circumcised get herpes. I was referring to a recent incident. Google it. I would send you the link if I had more time. Women like you are the one's who take ONE statement and blow it out of proportion and then get hysterical. Why don't you learn to read and MYOB. |
Anonymous
I did a random, completely unscientific, survey of a few friends and was pleased to learn that as many were excited and turned on by uncircumcised penises as there were others that were not so into it. The beauty of, well, beauty, is that it's subjective. |
Anonymous
I have enjoyed both kinds in my day. Leaving aside the medical pros/cons for a moment, if men said they were less interested in a woman who didn't have some surgical changes made to her area, I would say it was time to re-educate little boys. |
Anonymous
| Another female who prefers the intact penis here. No scar tissue, no stretched-too-tight erections, and the head of the penis is moist like it's supposed to be. |
Anonymous
False. Males and females all have "foreskin." Both males and females have a prepuce, in the male, it's called the foreskin. In the female, it's the clitoral hood. Both prepuces cover and keep moist a mucosal area. In the male, the head of the penis, in the female, the clitoris. Both areas also produce smegma, which should be cleaned. Both areas can also suffer from phimosis. But although some claim circumcision for males is a valid preventative for phimosis, no one dares say the same for girls. Clitoral phimosis also exists: http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=anatomy-and-sexual-dysfun |
Anonymous
Thank you. Amen. The fact that some women actually run around saying that a normal intact penis is "gross" or "nauseating" is sad. |
Anonymous
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NIH ended two clinical trials of adult male circumcision early because an interim review of data revealed that medically performed circumcision significantly reduces a man’s risk of acquiring HIV through heterosexual intercourse. e.g. NIH's Data Safety & Monitoring Board stopped the trials early because it would have been unethical to continue them when the studies revealed an approximate halving of risk of HIV infection in men who were circumcised.
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Anonymous
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The HIV studies were conducted by extremely pro-circ, US researchers. The reality is that they were ended before any good conclusions could be drawn from them. There were no controls whatsoever for other factors, such as sexual activity. It doesn't take a genius to consider that perhaps the men who had just been circumcised, and had a painful wound on their penis, might not be engaging in sexual activity for many weeks. They were also instructed to use condoms because of their healing wound. None of this was not factored in to these studies at all.
http://www.circumstitions.com/HIV.html Also, you have to ask, if circumcision helps prevent HIV, why do other industrialized countries that do not circumcise have much LOWER rates of HIV/AIDS than the United States? Maybe it's because they use condoms - the one thing that actually is proven to help prevent HIV - more consistantly? If circumcising helps prevent HIV, then the United States, a historically circumcising country, should have the lowest rate in the developed world. Comparing what is happening in tribal Africa to the United States (or any industrialized country) is pretty much useless. And, there is no pediatric association in the world that recommends routine infant circumcision because of these studies. Not even in the United States, where many doctors favor circumcision. |
Anonymous
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we had a mohel and he did use topical anesthetic. i don't remember whether he just used it or asked us first (in which case our answer would have been yes, anyway).
the actual procedure itself took, seriously, seconds. the baby didn't cry during the procedure itself. he cried a little at first when he was undressed - but hey, i would, if i were 8 days old and cold! the mohel was very gentle and recuperation was a breeze. a little gauze and vaseline as one of the PP said and after a week it was completely healed. i am not downplaying it at all because any surgery is scary for a new parent, but it was really so minor as to be a blip in our memory. as ours was a religious ceremony the whole bris itself was probably 45 min long, but that is because of all the chatter and prayers and weeping grandparents and all of that. the actual procedure you'd miss if you blinked your eyes. anyway said son is now 5 and he doesn't appear to have been emotionally or physically scared by the experience. |
Anonymous
| Big, BIG sigh. GET OVER YOURSELVES. Who fu*king cares whether parents circumcise their sons, whether it's for religious or medical reasons? I mean, WHY DO YOU CARE? Really, WHY DO YOU CARE? I can't imagine having anything to say to such nosy and judgmental people. Most people--including myself--could give a sh*t what you do. Get a freaking hobby. |
Anonymous
| This is the OP. I had my son 2 weeks ago today. The next day, my OB who happens to be a mohel did the circumcision. They used a topical anesthesia. He was gone for about 30 minutes. It healed in just a few days. I just wanted to thank all who provided useful answers to my questions. I would have preferred less BS nastiness about the evils of circumcizing. |
Anonymous
Well, I care because parents are forcing permanent modifications on their newborn sons and many don't even stop to think about the longterm effect it will have on them and their penile function. Shouldn't the boy have a right to determine whether or not he wants cosmetic surgery on his penis? It's a human rights issue which has been completely obfuscated by social misinformation here in the U.S. Much like female circumcision, which through the efforts of countless activists during the last two decades, is now illegal in the United States and many other countries throughout the world. In fact, non-religious infant male circumcision is illegal in some countries as well. I believe that in our lifetime, we will see this unneccessary and harmful practice outlawed in this country also. |
Anonymous
Your son essentially did not have pain relief for the procedure. Topical anesthetic takes 60-90 minutes to become fully effective. To all the parents who will circumcise, please use topical anesthetic ONLY if they are willing to wait the full hour for it to take effect. Otherwise you should insist on the injections of anesthetic at the base of the penis. And yes, circumcision is a very quick procedure and it does heal fairly quickly. In the grand scheme of things, it is a very simple and minor surgery. Still, it removes a part of the child's body that is supposed to be there.
Giving out detailed and correct information about circumcision is not bullshit, nor is it nasty. Instead, it is necessary to give true informed consent . I'm sincerely glad that it went well for you and for your son and I certainly don't think you are evil by any stretch of the imagination. I hope some of the information on this thread at least helped to inform you and other parents as well. |