Reformatted: Advocate for five days a week by fall

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Anonymous wrote:Many teachers do want full time IPL in the Fall, please don't think the WTU will stop that.

But I am asking you to fight with us on fully funding our schools. Why are high needs schools having to excess teachers? Especially when enrollment doesn't warrant it?

And even if it did aren't smaller classrooms a GOOD idea? Even before covid, smaller class sizes equals better learning for all.

I stand with you for full time, I am sure this time teachers who don't agree will speak up because we know another year of DL is insane. But we need you to call the mayor out too.

It's disgusting that you're withholding educating children as a bargaining chip to get better employment terms for yourself. After all WTU's actions that have profoundly harmed my children, I wouldn't join forces with WTU for ANYTHING.

This. WTU used the pandemic and kids to settle a longstanding score with the the Mayor and mayoral control. I an the daughter of a teacher and former supporter of teacher unions, but no more. WTU is more corruprt that than the mayor. We are hanging on for probably one more year but I will never give a another dime to our title 1 school.

Now I think you are a troll from the Mayor's office blaming everything on the union. Do you work for the DME? Settling a score because of Mayoral control? This is getting out of control.

Yes, it is getting out of control. I"m a different poster. And it sure looks like the WTU is now and has been advocating against schools opening. If I'm wrong on that, point me to the real facts. Parents want their kids in school. Period. Not all, but most. Anyone who opposes that is on the road to losing power in our city. Be that the Mayor, the WTU, other officials. It's important that you see that we want our kids in school. That's the only important issue to us right now. And it should be to you too, if you care about kids.

WTU has a whole conference planned for Saturday addressing needs of kids when school reopens, how to deal with the issues of this past year, how to work with parents (a parent is speaking); etc. But yeah WTU doesn't want to open.

Now I shall wait to be called a troll and for you to go and use google and find out what they are doing and then say no they have other union people speaking, they have teachers speaking and ONLY ONE parent so it negates everything. Because anyone who spends a career about education outweighs the nine years of your parenting and knowing whats best.

As the parent of two MS students who have not had even the choice of a single moment of in person instruction for over a year, I will be interested - to put it mildly - in what the WTU actually says at this conference and what it actually does afterwards. Because anyone who has spent an entire year keeping kids out of school isn’t showing they know best and does not outweigh the interest of the kids. So let’s see what the WTU says and does after this conference.

WTU advocates for well being and safety of teachers, who elect them to represent them. It is a professional union, not a child/student advocacy group. I think you do not understand the purpose of a union.

As a union card holder, I do. The PP who claims the WTU cares about the students is the one who does not. The WTU will talk about how much they want to support kids at their conference but their actions since March 2020 say different. When someone shows you who they are, believe them.

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Anonymous wrote:Many teachers do want full time IPL in the Fall, please don't think the WTU will stop that.

But I am asking you to fight with us on fully funding our schools. Why are high needs schools having to excess teachers? Especially when enrollment doesn't warrant it?

And even if it did aren't smaller classrooms a GOOD idea? Even before covid, smaller class sizes equals better learning for all.

I stand with you for full time, I am sure this time teachers who don't agree will speak up because we know another year of DL is insane. But we need you to call the mayor out too.

It's disgusting that you're withholding educating children as a bargaining chip to get better employment terms for yourself. After all WTU's actions that have profoundly harmed my children, I wouldn't join forces with WTU for ANYTHING.

This. WTU used the pandemic and kids to settle a longstanding score with the the Mayor and mayoral control. I an the daughter of a teacher and former supporter of teacher unions, but no more. WTU is more corruprt that than the mayor. We are hanging on for probably one more year but I will never give a another dime to our title 1 school.

Now I think you are a troll from the Mayor's office blaming everything on the union. Do you work for the DME? Settling a score because of Mayoral control? This is getting out of control.

Yes, it is getting out of control. I"m a different poster. And it sure looks like the WTU is now and has been advocating against schools opening. If I'm wrong on that, point me to the real facts. Parents want their kids in school. Period. Not all, but most. Anyone who opposes that is on the road to losing power in our city. Be that the Mayor, the WTU, other officials. It's important that you see that we want our kids in school. That's the only important issue to us right now. And it should be to you too, if you care about kids.

WTU has a whole conference planned for Saturday addressing needs of kids when school reopens, how to deal with the issues of this past year, how to work with parents (a parent is speaking); etc. But yeah WTU doesn't want to open.

Now I shall wait to be called a troll and for you to go and use google and find out what they are doing and then say no they have other union people speaking, they have teachers speaking and ONLY ONE parent so it negates everything. Because anyone who spends a career about education outweighs the nine years of your parenting and knowing whats best.

As the parent of two MS students who have not had even the choice of a single moment of in person instruction for over a year, I will be interested - to put it mildly - in what the WTU actually says at this conference and what it actually does afterwards. Because anyone who has spent an entire year keeping kids out of school isn’t showing they know best and does not outweigh the interest of the kids. So let’s see what the WTU says and does after this conference.

WTU advocates for well being and safety of teachers, who elect them to represent them. It is a professional union, not a child/student advocacy group. I think you do not understand the purpose of a union.

Right. WTU doesn't care about kids or their education. I wish people would see that. They do not have our kids' best interests in mind, and it makes sense to not support them.

Omg, that is not their function! WTU is to support teachers. Teachers care about students, education and providing the best learning they can. The union cares about the working conditions and employment of teachers. They have the best interests of teachers, who pay dues and elect them. You do not understand the role of unions.

Is there a reading comprehension issue here? The PP said "WTU doesn't care about kids or their education" and "They do not have our kids' best interests in mind."

[Anonymous]

Want to add: anger at WTU is misplaced. They’re doing their job, which is advocating for teacher safety.

[Anonymous]

I also love love love that people blame WTU for schools being closed and that people are repeating their talking points but had no idea that they have a 6 hour conference for their members on a Saturday. A 6-hour conference that includes parents speaking and how to help kids through this year and after this year when we are in person - why are they doing that? Because it is what their membership wants.

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Anonymous wrote:I also love love love that people blame WTU for schools being closed and that people are repeating their talking points but had no idea that they have a 6 hour conference for their members on a Saturday. A 6-hour conference that includes parents speaking and how to help kids through this year and after this year when we are in person - why are they doing that? Because it is what their membership wants.

No we discussed that conference upthread.

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Troll's back, I see.

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Anonymous wrote:Want to add: anger at WTU is misplaced. They’re doing their job, which is advocating for teacher safety.

Love love love the comment that says WTU has been harming kids since March 2020. Really? WTU created an airborne disease in the US, let it thrive and said shut down schools?

Well as a PP pointed out WTU is a George Soros type, right? I literally do not understand people’s animosity here towards WTU... which is probably why my posts seem odd or out of place. There are plenty of things to be angry about —the list is long— but WTU? Whatever!

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Anonymous wrote:Want to add: anger at WTU is misplaced. They’re doing their job, which is advocating for teacher safety.

Love love love the comment that says WTU has been harming kids since March 2020. Really? WTU created an airborne disease in the US, let it thrive and said shut down schools?

Well as a PP pointed out WTU is a George Soros type, right? I literally do not understand people’s animosity here towards WTU... which is probably why my posts seem odd or out of place. There are plenty of things to be angry about —the list is long— but WTU? Whatever!

Pretty sure this is a troll post. People have explained ad nauseum why they feel animosity toward WTU, in this thread, even. This comments seems to be an attempt to just re-start anger so that this person can sneer.

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Anonymous wrote:Want to add: anger at WTU is misplaced. They’re doing their job, which is advocating for teacher safety.

Love love love the comment that says WTU has been harming kids since March 2020. Really? WTU created an airborne disease in the US, let it thrive and said shut down schools?

Well as a PP pointed out WTU is a George Soros type, right? I literally do not understand people’s animosity here towards WTU... which is probably why my posts seem odd or out of place. There are plenty of things to be angry about —the list is long— but WTU? Whatever!

Pretty sure this is a troll post. People have explained ad nauseum why they feel animosity toward WTU, in this thread, even. This comments seems to be an attempt to just re-start anger so that this person can sneer.

Yes, of course, anyone who disagrees with you is a troll. As I stated, there is plenty to be angry about... that’s agreement, not sneer.

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Anonymous wrote:I also love love love that people blame WTU for schools being closed and that people are repeating their talking points but had no idea that they have a 6 hour conference for their members on a Saturday. A 6-hour conference that includes parents speaking and how to help kids through this year and after this year when we are in person - why are they doing that? Because it is what their membership wants.

No we discussed that conference upthread.

No one knew about the conference until I mentioned it. No one here is reading WTU's page or tweets they just rage on there so they have someone to complain about.

Did WTU stop schools from opening in November - YES! I was happy about that.

People claim the goalpost moves with WTU but they don't know all the markers. The only one I am seeing is asymptomatic testing. But this would be for parents who aren't vaccinated. Teachers wouldn't be at risk (masked, vaccinated). It would be kids giving it to kids asymptomatically and bringing it home to an un-vaxxed parent. I plan on testing my kid weekly if DCPS doesn't.

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Anonymous wrote:Want to add: anger at WTU is misplaced. They’re doing their job, which is advocating for teacher safety.

I don’t think you get how damaging that line is to WTU’s support in the real world.

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Anonymous wrote:I also love love love that people blame WTU for schools being closed and that people are repeating their talking points but had no idea that they have a 6 hour conference for their members on a Saturday. A 6-hour conference that includes parents speaking and how to help kids through this year and after this year when we are in person - why are they doing that? Because it is what their membership wants.

No we discussed that conference upthread.

No one knew about the conference until I mentioned it. No one here is reading WTU's page or tweets they just rage on there so they have someone to complain about.

Did WTU stop schools from opening in November - YES! I was happy about that.

People claim the goalpost moves with WTU but they don't know all the markers. The only one I am seeing is asymptomatic testing. But this would be for parents who aren't vaccinated. Teachers wouldn't be at risk (masked, vaccinated). It would be kids giving it to kids asymptomatically and bringing it home to an un-vaxxed parent. I plan on testing my kid weekly if DCPS doesn't.

WTU’s sole job is to advocate for teachers and all the sudden they’re refusing to go back in person because they’re just so concerned about unvacced parents? Gmafb with that.

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Anonymous wrote:I also love love love that people blame WTU for schools being closed and that people are repeating their talking points but had no idea that they have a 6 hour conference for their members on a Saturday. A 6-hour conference that includes parents speaking and how to help kids through this year and after this year when we are in person - why are they doing that? Because it is what their membership wants.

No we discussed that conference upthread.

No one knew about the conference until I mentioned it. No one here is reading WTU's page or tweets they just rage on there so they have someone to complain about.

Did WTU stop schools from opening in November - YES! I was happy about that.

People claim the goalpost moves with WTU but they don't know all the markers. The only one I am seeing is asymptomatic testing. But this would be for parents who aren't vaccinated. Teachers wouldn't be at risk (masked, vaccinated). It would be kids giving it to kids asymptomatically and bringing it home to an un-vaxxed parent. I plan on testing my kid weekly if DCPS doesn't.

WTU’s sole job is to advocate for teachers and all the sudden they’re refusing to go back in person because they’re just so concerned about unvacced parents? Gmafb with that.

Sorry - WTU isn't worried about unvaxxed parents per se. I have seen someone worry (not a WTU member) that DCPS isn't following through on testing children and its a problem of DCPS not following through on what they said. This person might have a kid IPL already. I have seen WTU folks agree that this is a problem (not testing children like DCPS is supposed to) but I haven't seen it be a reason not to have IPL in the fall.

I have seen lots of WTU members (aka DCPS teachers) talk about finally being vaxxed and now happy to return to tomorrow or for Term 4.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Want to add: anger at WTU is misplaced. They’re doing their job, which is advocating for teacher safety.

I don’t think you get how damaging that line is to WTU’s support in the real world.

They don’t care. They represent teachers, that’s the only opinion that should matter. The police unions don’t ask you what you think, nor do they care. The trucker/long shore man/electrician unions don’t care what the public thinks either. Their world is limited to their members, as it should be.

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Anonymous wrote:Want to add: anger at WTU is misplaced. They’re doing their job, which is advocating for teacher safety.

I don’t think you get how damaging that line is to WTU’s support in the real world.

They don’t care. They represent teachers, that’s the only opinion that should matter. The police unions don’t ask you what you think, nor do they care. The trucker/long shore man/electrician unions don’t care what the public thinks either. Their world is limited to their members, as it should be.

Right. They don't care about kids.