Read Across America -Dr. Seuss

[Anonymous]

PP's - what other titles should I throw in my cart while I still easily can without huge markups?

I already have:

Six by Suess (also have a seperate copy of the Grinch)
Cat in the Hat
Oh the Places You'll Go
Green Eggs and Ham
One Fish Two Fish
Wocket in my Pocket

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Haha. So I’m in the middle of purchasing the Six By Seuss online from Target and it disappears from my basket and now shows up as unavailable online. Everyone else is trying to get this book before it gets cancelled.

Unbelievable. The publishers should have given a six months notice or something so all the unoffended people could get a copy before they burn it.

Quick! Walmart still has it!

Thank you!!

I just bought 3 copies from Walmart online. One for me, one for my niece and her children (she’s 12), one to gift to somebody in my life who will have a baby someday.

I really hope this decision gets reversed, it’s so stupid. But at least I have a Mulberry Street that my carer can read to me when I’m elderly and suffering dementia. (I work with patients with Alzheimer’s and related dementias. Music from their youth and their childhood literary favorites are the best tools for soothing them when they are sun downing or otherwise distressed. Our brains create powerful permanent memories in childhood that last when all else fails us.)

[Anonymous]

What 12 year old wants Mulberry Street? Youre taking this too far.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Seuss foundation has just announced the permanent cancelling of several of his early books, included And to Think That I Saw it on Mulberry Street, one of my first favorite books. I don’t own a copy, and when I just went looking to buy one, they are selling for HUNDREDS on Amazon and AbeBooks.

This is seriously shitty.

So the Seuss foundation is canceling ... itself?

Look, if the SEUSS FOUNDATION says hey some of these books have racist images we don’t think are okay anymore, then maybe there’s some merit to it.

Do you think so? Or do you think maybe they’ve got some of the same idiots on their staff as the public schools system in San Francisco that was using Wikipedia to decide that they should cancel President Lincoln, President Washington, Senator Feinstein and others from having their names on public schools?

The so-called racist depiction in Mulberry Street is an Asian person wearing a coolie hat (rice paddy had, farmer’s hat, Asian conical hat). This is a type of cultural attire that is still common in two dozen or more Asian countries. How is that racist? Is it racist to depict western Americans wearing cowboy hats? Will those depictions be cancelled next?

Dianne Feinstein should NOT have her name on a school lmao! What in the world. This argument has lost the plot.

[Anonymous]

These are the cancelled books:

'And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street', 'If I Ran the Zoo', 'McElligot's Pool', 'On Beyond Zebra!', 'Scrambled Eggs Super!', and 'The Cat's Quizzer'

Today is Geisel’s birthday and he is usually celebrated big time. He’s been cancelled by Biden! No mention of him whatsoever on a day when he is usually lauded as the giant of children’s literature that he is.

He was NOT a racist. How is it even racist to depict an Asian person in an Asian conical hat that is very culturally common and associated with Asians like cowboy hats are associated with Americans?

Geisel drew some ugly propaganda cartoons for adults during the pre WWII years to pay the bills and help push Americans toward the anti fascist war effort when Charles Lindbergh and others were pushing America First and happy to laud Hitler and his actions.

I am seriously astounded by the idiocy that is taking over American progressivism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't care about Dr. S. as long as kids are reading.

Please choose your words more carefully. When you talk about "banning" books it raises the specter of the government burning piles of books. That is not what is happening here. If publishers choose not to publish books, that is their right. If schools change their reading materials with the times, that is fine too.

You remind me of my paranoid parents when they found out school didn't have "Halloween" parties anymore. "They are destroying everything we BELIEVE in!!!". Oh really? My secular parents "believe" in Halloween now? Which is destroyed? So will we be arrested if we dress up in costumes or trick or treat or have a party? So please explain the DESTROYED part?

Calm down and don't get your panties in a twist. What is the alternative, a government order that publishers publish what they have always published or that schools can never evolve their curriculum?

Stop buying into Fox hysteria.

I don’t even watch Fox. I’m an uber liberal who watches MSNBC and generally am all about anti racism and all the ‘language matters’ party line.

But I’m also a former English major, including a graduate degree, who respects the literary canon including the stuff written by old white guys that has shaped us as a culture for generations. And I know that we don’t learn from history by erasing history.

This is happening because some idiots on the Seuss Foundation board are responding to a small minority of people complaining about these books. It’s the most tragic example of what the Geisels lost by being infertile in a time when technology was not so advanced as to help them have children of their own who could advocate for their legacy and character.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These are the cancelled books:

'And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street', 'If I Ran the Zoo', 'McElligot's Pool', 'On Beyond Zebra!', 'Scrambled Eggs Super!', and 'The Cat's Quizzer'

Today is Geisel’s birthday and he is usually celebrated big time. He’s been cancelled by Biden! No mention of him whatsoever on a day when he is usually lauded as the giant of children’s literature that he is.

He was NOT a racist. How is it even racist to depict an Asian person in an Asian conical hat that is very culturally common and associated with Asians like cowboy hats are associated with Americans?

Geisel drew some ugly propaganda cartoons for adults during the pre WWII years to pay the bills and help push Americans toward the anti fascist war effort when Charles Lindbergh and others were pushing America First and happy to laud Hitler and his actions.

I am seriously astounded by the idiocy that is taking over American progressivism.

I am too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What 12 year old wants Mulberry Street? Youre taking this too far.

There’s no age limit on enjoyment of classic children’s literature - I still read The Monster at the End of This Book at least once a year, and I own copies of several of my childhood favorites and reread them from time to time - The Little House books, the Narnia books, The Wrinkle in Time books, etc.

I’m actually sad for adults who don’t revisit their happiest childhood reading adventures at least occasionally. It’s as rewarding as reading any other classic literature repeatedly over a lifetime, as ones perspectives change.

My 12 year old niece will likely have a child of her own someday, and the library I have been gifting her over the years will be recycled to that child’s delight as well.

Sorry you don’t see any wisdom in that, cranky pants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP's - what other titles should I throw in my cart while I still easily can without huge markups?

I already have:

Six by Suess (also have a seperate copy of the Grinch)
Cat in the Hat
Oh the Places You'll Go
Green Eggs and Ham
One Fish Two Fish
Wocket in my Pocket

My favorite is How The Grinch Stole Christmas. Such a great moralistic ending too!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't care about Dr. S. as long as kids are reading.

Please choose your words more carefully. When you talk about "banning" books it raises the specter of the government burning piles of books. That is not what is happening here. If publishers choose not to publish books, that is their right. If schools change their reading materials with the times, that is fine too.

You remind me of my paranoid parents when they found out school didn't have "Halloween" parties anymore. "They are destroying everything we BELIEVE in!!!". Oh really? My secular parents "believe" in Halloween now? Which is destroyed? So will we be arrested if we dress up in costumes or trick or treat or have a party? So please explain the DESTROYED part?

Calm down and don't get your panties in a twist. What is the alternative, a government order that publishers publish what they have always published or that schools can never evolve their curriculum?

Stop buying into Fox hysteria.

Maybe they aren’t destroying and burning books but I do have an issue with the schools canceling these books. This is a slippery slope. Same as ignoring Halloween.

[Anonymous]

Why did they start ignoring Halloween in schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't care about Dr. S. as long as kids are reading.

Please choose your words more carefully. When you talk about "banning" books it raises the specter of the government burning piles of books. That is not what is happening here. If publishers choose not to publish books, that is their right. If schools change their reading materials with the times, that is fine too.

You remind me of my paranoid parents when they found out school didn't have "Halloween" parties anymore. "They are destroying everything we BELIEVE in!!!". Oh really? My secular parents "believe" in Halloween now? Which is destroyed? So will we be arrested if we dress up in costumes or trick or treat or have a party? So please explain the DESTROYED part?

Calm down and don't get your panties in a twist. What is the alternative, a government order that publishers publish what they have always published or that schools can never evolve their curriculum?

Stop buying into Fox hysteria.

Maybe they aren’t destroying and burning books but I do have an issue with the schools canceling these books. This is a slippery slope. Same as ignoring Halloween.

The schools are NOT CANCELING the books. They are just moving away from this being “dr Seuss week” to focus on other books . The books are still in schools and libraries. They aren’t banned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These are the cancelled books:

'And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street', 'If I Ran the Zoo', 'McElligot's Pool', 'On Beyond Zebra!', 'Scrambled Eggs Super!', and 'The Cat's Quizzer'

Today is Geisel’s birthday and he is usually celebrated big time. He’s been cancelled by Biden! No mention of him whatsoever on a day when he is usually lauded as the giant of children’s literature that he is.

He was NOT a racist. How is it even racist to depict an Asian person in an Asian conical hat that is very culturally common and associated with Asians like cowboy hats are associated with Americans?

Geisel drew some ugly propaganda cartoons for adults during the pre WWII years to pay the bills and help push Americans toward the anti fascist war effort when Charles Lindbergh and others were pushing America First and happy to laud Hitler and his actions.

I am seriously astounded by the idiocy that is taking over American progressivism.

This is what I read this morning

As NPR's Code Switch team has reported:

"In And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street, for example, a character described as Chinese has two lines for eyes, carries chopsticks and a bowl of rice, and wears traditional Japanese-style shoes. In If I Ran the Zoo, two men said to be from Africa are shown shirtless, shoeless and wearing grass skirts as they carry an exotic animal. Outside of his books, the author's personal legacy has come into question, too — Seuss wrote an entire minstrel show in college and performed as the main character in full blackface."

https://www.npr.org/2021/03/02/972777841/dr-seuss-enterprises-will-shelve-6-books-citing-hurtful-portrayals

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why did they start ignoring Halloween in schools?

Because people associate kids playing dress up with Satan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are the cancelled books:

'And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street', 'If I Ran the Zoo', 'McElligot's Pool', 'On Beyond Zebra!', 'Scrambled Eggs Super!', and 'The Cat's Quizzer'

Today is Geisel’s birthday and he is usually celebrated big time. He’s been cancelled by Biden! No mention of him whatsoever on a day when he is usually lauded as the giant of children’s literature that he is.

He was NOT a racist. How is it even racist to depict an Asian person in an Asian conical hat that is very culturally common and associated with Asians like cowboy hats are associated with Americans?

Geisel drew some ugly propaganda cartoons for adults during the pre WWII years to pay the bills and help push Americans toward the anti fascist war effort when Charles Lindbergh and others were pushing America First and happy to laud Hitler and his actions.

I am seriously astounded by the idiocy that is taking over American progressivism.

This is what I read this morning

As NPR's Code Switch team has reported:

"In And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street, for example, a character described as Chinese has two lines for eyes, carries chopsticks and a bowl of rice, and wears traditional Japanese-style shoes. In If I Ran the Zoo, two men said to be from Africa are shown shirtless, shoeless and wearing grass skirts as they carry an exotic animal. Outside of his books, the author's personal legacy has come into question, too — Seuss wrote an entire minstrel show in college and performed as the main character in full blackface."

https://www.npr.org/2021/03/02/972777841/dr-seuss-enterprises-will-shelve-6-books-citing-hurtful-portrayals

So other than being slightly inaccurate, whats the big deal? My kids once brought home a book where a polar bear befriended a penguin (they live on opposite ends of the earth) but the book wasn't being cancelled!

I don't blame Biden for this. He's got bigger fish to fry. This is the stupid super-liberal activists that make all liberals look bad.