Read Across America -Dr. Seuss

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes I hate Dr Suess. He makes up gibberish words to fit a rhyme. Many of his "stories" aren't actually stories at all, but ENDLESS ridiculous pages of rhymes with no real meaning or story behind them.

The only time I haven't wanted to poke my eyes out when reading his books is when it was helping my daughter learn to read.

As a PP said, let's celebrate Julia Donaldson who is actually quite skilled at being lyrical without making up gibberish words.

the point of gibberish words is decoding and phonics.

It is much more helpful to decode REAL words. That builds vocabulary and context. Decoding “the meeches and sneetches were riding in their geetches “ is STUPID.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes I hate Dr Suess. He makes up gibberish words to fit a rhyme. Many of his "stories" aren't actually stories at all, but ENDLESS ridiculous pages of rhymes with no real meaning or story behind them.

The only time I haven't wanted to poke my eyes out when reading his books is when it was helping my daughter learn to read.

As a PP said, let's celebrate Julia Donaldson who is actually quite skilled at being lyrical without making up gibberish words.

the point of gibberish words is decoding and phonics.

It is much more helpful to decode REAL words. That builds vocabulary and context. Decoding “the meeches and sneetches were riding in their geetches “ is STUPID.

You don't understand...all words are made up. People weren't born with a whole vocabulary.

Our English language, pretty much all languages, change and grow all of the time. Here are some "new" words straight from Merriam-Webster and Oxford English dictionaries. Some of them are made up and some are adaptations of words already in use: hygge, makerspace, gig worker, performative disapproving, hard pass, reaction GIF, wet market, buka, chickee, chrain, hench, swink,...

Your intolerance and inability to be flexible is holding you back, PP.

[Anonymous]

The Seuss foundation has just announced the permanent cancelling of several of his early books, included And to Think That I Saw it on Mulberry Street, one of my first favorite books. I don’t own a copy, and when I just went looking to buy one, they are selling for HUNDREDS on Amazon and AbeBooks.

This is seriously shitty.

[Anonymous]

So very Brave New World. If you are offended by a book, don’t read it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Seuss foundation has just announced the permanent cancelling of several of his early books, included And to Think That I Saw it on Mulberry Street, one of my first favorite books. I don’t own a copy, and when I just went looking to buy one, they are selling for HUNDREDS on Amazon and AbeBooks.

This is seriously shitty.

Its in this collection. We have it and its great. $15 at Target.

https://www.target.com/p/six-by-seuss-a-treasury-of-dr-seuss-classics-hardcover-by-dr-seuss/-/A-11392787?ref=tgt_adv_XS000000&AFID=google_pla_df&fndsrc=tmnv&DFA=71700000079491600&CPNG=PLA_DVM%2B0060H00000rIIeqQAG-Dr+Seuss_2021_Promo_Flight&adgroup=PLA_Dr+Seuss&LID=700000001393753pgs&network=g&device=c&location=9008140&gclid=Cj0KCQiA4feBBhC9ARIsABp_nbXHx1uLmFEf84hPTlC2BAfV9K4-5_VMLJTifMoXD4r0y7ZaDXZO29MaAppzEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Seuss foundation has just announced the permanent cancelling of several of his early books, included And to Think That I Saw it on Mulberry Street, one of my first favorite books. I don’t own a copy, and when I just went looking to buy one, they are selling for HUNDREDS on Amazon and AbeBooks.

This is seriously shitty.

Its in this collection. We have it and its great. $15 at Target.

https://www.target.com/p/six-by-seuss-a-treasury-of-dr-seuss-classics-hardcover-by-dr-seuss/-/A-11392787?ref=tgt_adv_XS000000&AFID=google_pla_df&fndsrc=tmnv&DFA=71700000079491600&CPNG=PLA_DVM%2B0060H00000rIIeqQAG-Dr+Seuss_2021_Promo_Flight&adgroup=PLA_Dr+Seuss&LID=700000001393753pgs&network=g&device=c&location=9008140&gclid=Cj0KCQiA4feBBhC9ARIsABp_nbXHx1uLmFEf84hPTlC2BAfV9K4-5_VMLJTifMoXD4r0y7ZaDXZO29MaAppzEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Oh thank you so much! I actually owned this collection briefly years ago (a hope chest of children’s books for the child I never could have) but gifted it to my brother’s children.

Anyway, I’m buying it from Target online as we speak. Very grateful for the head’s up as I’ve been searching my usual book sources and all the copies are ridiculously expensive now.

I really can’t believe they are cancelling Seuss. I don’t think this would have happened if he’d been able to have children to be proper advocates for his legacy, it’s so sad. Theodore Geisel was not a racist. I can’t believe people aren’t able to grasp these things in context.


I am so frustrated. I am very liberal and I care very much for the advancement of minorities and social justice issues, but this is just crap. This is so misguided.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Seuss foundation has just announced the permanent cancelling of several of his early books, included And to Think That I Saw it on Mulberry Street, one of my first favorite books. I don’t own a copy, and when I just went looking to buy one, they are selling for HUNDREDS on Amazon and AbeBooks.

This is seriously shitty.

So the Seuss foundation is canceling ... itself?

Look, if the SEUSS FOUNDATION says hey some of these books have racist images we don’t think are okay anymore, then maybe there’s some merit to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Seuss foundation has just announced the permanent cancelling of several of his early books, included And to Think That I Saw it on Mulberry Street, one of my first favorite books. I don’t own a copy, and when I just went looking to buy one, they are selling for HUNDREDS on Amazon and AbeBooks.

This is seriously shitty.

Its in this collection. We have it and its great. $15 at Target.

https://www.target.com/p/six-by-seuss-a-treasury-of-dr-seuss-classics-hardcover-by-dr-seuss/-/A-11392787?ref=tgt_adv_XS000000&AFID=google_pla_df&fndsrc=tmnv&DFA=71700000079491600&CPNG=PLA_DVM%2B0060H00000rIIeqQAG-Dr+Seuss_2021_Promo_Flight&adgroup=PLA_Dr+Seuss&LID=700000001393753pgs&network=g&device=c&location=9008140&gclid=Cj0KCQiA4feBBhC9ARIsABp_nbXHx1uLmFEf84hPTlC2BAfV9K4-5_VMLJTifMoXD4r0y7ZaDXZO29MaAppzEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Oh thank you so much! I actually owned this collection briefly years ago (a hope chest of children’s books for the child I never could have) but gifted it to my brother’s children.

Anyway, I’m buying it from Target online as we speak. Very grateful for the head’s up as I’ve been searching my usual book sources and all the copies are ridiculously expensive now.

I really can’t believe they are cancelling Seuss. I don’t think this would have happened if he’d been able to have children to be proper advocates for his legacy, it’s so sad. Theodore Geisel was not a racist. I can’t believe people aren’t able to grasp these things in context.


I am so frustrated. I am very liberal and I care very much for the advancement of minorities and social justice issues, but this is just crap. This is so misguided.

PP here. I'm grateful for the heads up from you that certain titles are going out of print. I'm definitely making a mental list to confirm I have everything I want to read to my future grandchildren.

[Anonymous]

Haha. So I’m in the middle of purchasing the Six By Seuss online from Target and it disappears from my basket and now shows up as unavailable online. Everyone else is trying to get this book before it gets cancelled.

Unbelievable. The publishers should have given a six months notice or something so all the unoffended people could get a copy before they burn it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Seuss foundation has just announced the permanent cancelling of several of his early books, included And to Think That I Saw it on Mulberry Street, one of my first favorite books. I don’t own a copy, and when I just went looking to buy one, they are selling for HUNDREDS on Amazon and AbeBooks.

This is seriously shitty.

So the Seuss foundation is canceling ... itself?

Look, if the SEUSS FOUNDATION says hey some of these books have racist images we don’t think are okay anymore, then maybe there’s some merit to it.

OR, they are just hoping this minor concession will stop the cancelling by others. I feel so badly for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Haha. So I’m in the middle of purchasing the Six By Seuss online from Target and it disappears from my basket and now shows up as unavailable online. Everyone else is trying to get this book before it gets cancelled.

Unbelievable. The publishers should have given a six months notice or something so all the unoffended people could get a copy before they burn it.

Quick! Walmart still has it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Seuss foundation has just announced the permanent cancelling of several of his early books, included And to Think That I Saw it on Mulberry Street, one of my first favorite books. I don’t own a copy, and when I just went looking to buy one, they are selling for HUNDREDS on Amazon and AbeBooks.

This is seriously shitty.

So the Seuss foundation is canceling ... itself?

Look, if the SEUSS FOUNDATION says hey some of these books have racist images we don’t think are okay anymore, then maybe there’s some merit to it.

Do you think so? Or do you think maybe they’ve got some of the same idiots on their staff as the public schools system in San Francisco that was using Wikipedia to decide that they should cancel President Lincoln, President Washington, Senator Feinstein and others from having their names on public schools?

The so-called racist depiction in Mulberry Street is an Asian person wearing a coolie hat (rice paddy had, farmer’s hat, Asian conical hat). This is a type of cultural attire that is still common in two dozen or more Asian countries. How is that racist? Is it racist to depict western Americans wearing cowboy hats? Will those depictions be cancelled next?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, do not ban Dr. Seuss or any book.

My kids and I are watching the original muppets from 1976-1980 something. EVERYTHING is wrong with it so we talk about it after. I find it a great way to talk about domestic violence. Making fun of accents. That dressing as an "Indian" is disrespectful and that goes for quite a few things. Violence, drinking and smoking are all unacceptable and the 1970s were terrible.

We've only watched 3 episodes but it's led to some great conversations we probably wouldn't have had otherwise.

That said, To think that I saw it on Mulberry Street is one of my fave Dr. S books and it's...problematic.

There is a Sesame Street DVD labeled for adults only because it is so bad. Its release was intended, I believe, to shine a light on how things used to be. Not for consumption by todays kids, except in a history or sociology class when they are older.

[Anonymous]

Don't care about Dr. S. as long as kids are reading.

Please choose your words more carefully. When you talk about "banning" books it raises the specter of the government burning piles of books. That is not what is happening here. If publishers choose not to publish books, that is their right. If schools change their reading materials with the times, that is fine too.

You remind me of my paranoid parents when they found out school didn't have "Halloween" parties anymore. "They are destroying everything we BELIEVE in!!!". Oh really? My secular parents "believe" in Halloween now? Which is destroyed? So will we be arrested if we dress up in costumes or trick or treat or have a party? So please explain the DESTROYED part?

Calm down and don't get your panties in a twist. What is the alternative, a government order that publishers publish what they have always published or that schools can never evolve their curriculum?

Stop buying into Fox hysteria.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stating that you don't like Dr Seuss, or would prefer other writers, is conceding the point that you think it is OK to ban a writer because someone has labeled him a racist.

This. I can’t stand Dr Seuss books. But it’s not ok to just label some deceased author a racist and then drop all of his/her books.