harsh sanctions for minor Covid rule violation at college

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Anonymous wrote:How do you not understand that your child who had an active case of Covid could have infected someone who is medically fragile who then could have died from Covid? The whole world is under public health orders to quarantine when you have an active case of Covid, but your child is so special you think it is merely a minor violation. Your child seems incredibly spoiled and selfish.

Not OP, but honestly your health is not my child’s concern. Just like their grades and college experience are not your concern. Every man for himself at this point.

I'm sorry that your parents don't love you, but you really need to get some help.

I’m sorry you didn’t have any fun in college, and that you don’t have any friends now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do you not understand that your child who had an active case of Covid could have infected someone who is medically fragile who then could have died from Covid? The whole world is under public health orders to quarantine when you have an active case of Covid, but your child is so special you think it is merely a minor violation. Your child seems incredibly spoiled and selfish.

+1

It only takes one mistake to create a very bad situation. That's why schools sent non-compliant students home in the fall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My college freshman had everything go wrong this fall, up to and including being diagnosed with Covid at school. While they were in solitary confinement/isolation in a dorm and totally stressed out, they carelessly broke a rule (left the room momentarily but didn’t come in contact with anyone).
The school is being pretty harsh about this. I care as much about Covid safety as the next person - probably more - but I don’t see why this needs to go on their permanent record. Can anyone share similar experiences? There have been a million extra rules this year and surely there have been a million mistakes. Nobody should get away with throwing a keg party during a pandemic, but are lesser offenses ever overlooked?
Anyway, be sure to warn your kids. This is not your father’s college experience.

Your child knew better and choose not to follow the rules. They were positive for covid which is very serious. Why didn't you go get them? No, it shouldn't be overlooked. This is how covid spreads. Most of our friends kids are DL this year so if you choose in person you need to follow the rules so its safe for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:So at my kids' college, it is very strict to the point where it is not really worth being on campus, but they are bending over backwards to be accommodating to Freshman at the expense of upper classman. Campus is operating at 50% capacity so plenty of people not allowed to be on.

Freshmen who violated COVID rules in the fall were sent home but allowed to regroup and come back in the spring. Plenty of upper classmen felt those spaces should have gone to them.

So incredibly sad. College is such a fun time. I can’t even imagine trying to do it in this insanity. The world (and old Boomers in particular) need to let up. They were not exactly great rule followers on their college days, but now they want to impose rules on others to ensure their overweight, sick selves survive. In my mind, that’s the height of selfishness. I’m sure one of them will be along shortly to tap out a fat fingered response.

This poster sounds so immature. They are basically saying “College was more fun before the pandemic.”

By next month, it is predicted that a half a million Americans would have died from COVID. More than WW2.

So of COURSE it can’t be business as usual. You sound ridiculous saying, “ but college is supposed to be fun.”

Grow up

Oh just stop. Those kids are missing out on a wonderful time of life. College friends, study abroad, campus life. The fact that some old people at the very end of their useful lives (and some well past) are dying doesn’t change that. Why do you not get that?

It must be a joy to have you as a grandchild.

Do you realize that someone in their 60's is 30x more likely to die from COVID than someone in their 20's. But hey, how useful is a 60 year old really.

I love your perspective on the other people around you, "How useful are they to me?" I can only imagine what values (and I use that word very loosely) you modelled for your child.

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Anonymous wrote:How do you not understand that your child who had an active case of Covid could have infected someone who is medically fragile who then could have died from Covid? The whole world is under public health orders to quarantine when you have an active case of Covid, but your child is so special you think it is merely a minor violation. Your child seems incredibly spoiled and selfish.

This.

And the fact that the op is complaining about the school’s “harsh” treatment of her little snowflake instead of being distressed he so callously put others lives at risk gives us a good idea of why her son is so self centered.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My college freshman had everything go wrong this fall, up to and including being diagnosed with Covid at school. While they were in solitary confinement/isolation in a dorm and totally stressed out, they carelessly broke a rule (left the room momentarily but didn’t come in contact with anyone).
The school is being pretty harsh about this. I care as much about Covid safety as the next person - probably more - but I don’t see why this needs to go on their permanent record. Can anyone share similar experiences? There have been a million extra rules this year and surely there have been a million mistakes. Nobody should get away with throwing a keg party during a pandemic, but are lesser offenses ever overlooked?
Anyway, be sure to warn your kids. This is not your father’s college experience.

Your child knew better and choose not to follow the rules. They were positive for covid which is very serious. Why didn't you go get them? No, it shouldn't be overlooked. This is how covid spreads. Most of our friends kids are DL this year so if you choose in person you need to follow the rules so its safe for everyone.

I agree except I don’t think going to get your covid infected child at college is the right idea. That causes spread. Kids who are exposed to and infected with covid at college should stay at college in the quarantine dorm and their parents should stay away. If you send your kid to college, accept that that may mean your kid has to deal with covid alone in a quarantine dorm.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Newsflash: there is no such thing as a “permanent record” in college. What do think they do? Write “COVID violation” on their transcript that future employers and grad schools see? Even for underage alcohol violations, there is no consequence. You are worrying for no reason!

And PS, flouting stupid COVID restrictions, especially when someone is low risk and young, is to be expected and commended. You should be proud of your DC.

Not true. At orientation at my DC’s college they said alcohol violations are a felony and would get my DC kicked out of the nursing program.

Is this at a private Pennsylvania college, by any chance?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My college freshman had everything go wrong this fall, up to and including being diagnosed with Covid at school. While they were in solitary confinement/isolation in a dorm and totally stressed out, they carelessly broke a rule (left the room momentarily but didn’t come in contact with anyone).
The school is being pretty harsh about this. I care as much about Covid safety as the next person - probably more - but I don’t see why this needs to go on their permanent record. Can anyone share similar experiences? There have been a million extra rules this year and surely there have been a million mistakes. Nobody should get away with throwing a keg party during a pandemic, but are lesser offenses ever overlooked?
Anyway, be sure to warn your kids. This is not your father’s college experience.

OP, my guess is that the school needs to take a hard stance *and* this transgression is unlikely to affect your DC in any meaningful way. I would let it go-- protesting the consequences is just going to make you seem entitled and possibly blow the whole thing out of proportion. I doubt that a future employer is likely to deny your kid a job or internship over this--and it may not even show up anywhere. School might be trying to scare the students into compliance.

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Anonymous wrote:People, people. DCUM seems to have reached peak toxicity/poor reading skills/false assumptions/sanctimoniousness. Cannot believe so many people have bothered to post so many stupid and unhelpful comments in such a short period of time.
18 year olds make mistakes. Not all mistakes endanger others. Mistakes vary in their seriousness. There is indeed such a thing as a permanent disciplinary record at college.
I am OP. I hope nothing ever goes wrong for any of your kids but I assume you’ll disown them and pull them out of college if they ever break any rules.
This was the first time any of my kids has ever gotten in trouble for anything. No one is immune. Nobody is perfect. It’s not crazy to try to compare notes on how schools enforce rules. But it is crazy here.

OP, I am actually curious as to what the consequences were. You never said. What exactly happened to your child? What effect does the disciplinary record have? Does it affect academic status in some way, rule your kid out for some award or program, etc.?

I think the kindest answer I can give is that I’m sorry your kid got sick at school. That must have been scary for you both. I’m sorry they made the mistake they made. I’m glad it was mitigated by there not actually being people around to be infected. The reason there are penalties for breaking isolation is that it is dangerous for other people. In your position, I’d be finding a balance between empathizing with what your kid is going through and reminding them that they agreed to certain rules, that those rules are safety related and should be respected, and that you will help them to manage whatever fallout occurs at school as a result. But I guess that depends on what the consequences actually are.

[Anonymous]

OP has given no details. Didn't say what the kid did. Didn't say what consequences were.

Troll?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP has given no details. Didn't say what the kid did. Didn't say what consequences were.

Troll?

OP said kid broke isolation for some brief period of time during which the kid didn’t come into contact with anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My college freshman had everything go wrong this fall, up to and including being diagnosed with Covid at school. While they were in solitary confinement/isolation in a dorm and totally stressed out, they carelessly broke a rule (left the room momentarily but didn’t come in contact with anyone).
The school is being pretty harsh about this. I care as much about Covid safety as the next person - probably more - but I don’t see why this needs to go on their permanent record. Can anyone share similar experiences? There have been a million extra rules this year and surely there have been a million mistakes. Nobody should get away with throwing a keg party during a pandemic, but are lesser offenses ever overlooked?
Anyway, be sure to warn your kids. This is not your father’s college experience.

Good. Whether you're "totally stressed out" or not (LOL), you follow all COVID rules if you want to be in school in person or get the hell out. Nobody's playing during a pandemic that's killed 400,000 people and counting, and caused long-term damage to many more. Breaking COVID rules is not a lesser offense, but a far, far greater offense than a keg party in 2021. Don't want to follow the rules? Go live at home and learn on the internet.

Stop calling your adult son or daughter a "kid" in a bid for sympathy. They are old enough to vote, enter into contracts and go get shot at in a war. ADULTS need to make adult decisions, especially during a pandemic. Land the helicopter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do you not understand that your child who had an active case of Covid could have infected someone who is medically fragile who then could have died from Covid? The whole world is under public health orders to quarantine when you have an active case of Covid, but your child is so special you think it is merely a minor violation. Your child seems incredibly spoiled and selfish.

Exactly!

I’d be sympathetic if he left because he needed medicine, food, or water. Left because of stress? Nope. That’s either a duck move or your child has a mental health issue. When I was an RA, we had a serial fire alarm puller. It was every night during final weeks for Spring semester. When caught, he said it relieved his stress because he knew everyone else had to take a study break, too and he felt less worried he was falling behind!

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Anonymous wrote:They want all the benefits of being part of a college community without the inconveniences (and responsibilities) that come with being on campus during a pandemic.


We all have to follow rules we don't like sometimes. It's part of being a member of society and, on a smaller scale, our communities. If you are SO horrified by the rules of that college, keep your kid home. Everyone who decided to send their kid to school this year knew the rules and knew the repercussions of breaking them could have devastating effects on those around them.

It is perfectly fine to disregard rules that one did not make or agree to follow.

Just stop. You are truly making a fool of yourself.

Sorry, I’m out to lunch and your basement doesn’t have windows, so no one can hear you.

Yes, you are definitely out to lunch, we can agree on that.

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Anonymous wrote:OP has given no details. Didn't say what the kid did. Didn't say what consequences were.

Troll?

OP said kid broke isolation for some brief period of time during which the kid didn’t come into contact with anyone.

They must have come into contact with someone right? Or else how did the school know OP's kid was on the loose?

Were they monitoring by cell phone or something?