Please Be Kind: 2.6 GPA

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Anonymous wrote:Why no community college suggestions??? This is the perfect scenario to take advantage of community college and then transfer after a couple of years. No shame in community college.

Outside of nursing, dental tech, and some skilled trades, community college is a joke. And I say that after a 25 year career in higher ed. Community colleges are not serious places -- literally 80 to 90% of the students never complete their program. And the "instructors" are frequently bats*** morons.

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Endicott or Gordon in Beverly, MA. Roger Williams or Salve Regina in RI. High Point in NC.

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Anonymous wrote:Why no community college suggestions??? This is the perfect scenario to take advantage of community college and then transfer after a couple of years. No shame in community college.

Outside of nursing, dental tech, and some skilled trades, community college is a joke. And I say that after a 25 year career in higher ed. Community colleges are not serious places -- literally 80 to 90% of the students never complete their program. And the "instructors" are frequently bats*** morons.

I 100% don’t think this child should go to CC but I absolutely disagree with you. The kids I know at CC are very good students with odd family situations... dad died summer before freshman year, single mom getting cancer treatment, serious student with no money, kids with little guidance from parents but smart and need a college counselor to help them find their way, taking a few classes they need for graduate school because the English major did not require organic chemistry but their graduate program does...

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Anonymous wrote:Why no community college suggestions??? This is the perfect scenario to take advantage of community college and then transfer after a couple of years. No shame in community college.

Outside of nursing, dental tech, and some skilled trades, community college is a joke. And I say that after a 25 year career in higher ed. Community colleges are not serious places -- literally 80 to 90% of the students never complete their program. And the "instructors" are frequently bats*** morons.

And I say, as somebody who has known dozens of people who have gone to a community college and then transferred to a better school, I think it’s a good option (also would they be included in that 80-90%?). OP’s kid is smart and is going to have access to plenty of support, and can probably get a good GPA because classes there are easy. I think it’s a great stepping stone to a four year school (yeah it’s an adjustment but it’s an adjustment after high school too).

However it looks like OP has gotten some great options to look into that aren’t CCs so there’s that.

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Anonymous wrote:Why no community college suggestions??? This is the perfect scenario to take advantage of community college and then transfer after a couple of years. No shame in community college.

Outside of nursing, dental tech, and some skilled trades, community college is a joke. And I say that after a 25 year career in higher ed. Community colleges are not serious places -- literally 80 to 90% of the students never complete their program. And the "instructors" are frequently bats*** morons.

I would think after 25 years in education you would express yourself more eloquently.

Yes the percentage of CC students who complete a bachelor's in 6 years is low -- about 13%, and only 30% make it to a 4 year institution

https://hechingerreport.org/why-so-few-students-transfer-from-community-colleges-to-four-year-universities/

However this data is self-selecting, and makes no assessment as to whether it is a good choice for a student who is financially challenged or a late bloomer academically. For those students, it is a lifechanging path.

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Have you considered University of Lynchburg? Certainly a beautiful campus with a nurturing environment. Unless something changed, it's a free, rolling app with guaranteed merit.

+1 for this school. Featured in "Colleges that Change Lives." A truly supportive environment.

Agree that the CTCL's are wonderful options.

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Anonymous wrote:Why no community college suggestions??? This is the perfect scenario to take advantage of community college and then transfer after a couple of years. No shame in community college.

Outside of nursing, dental tech, and some skilled trades, community college is a joke. And I say that after a 25 year career in higher ed. Community colleges are not serious places -- literally 80 to 90% of the students never complete their program. And the "instructors" are frequently bats*** morons.

And I say, as somebody who has known dozens of people who have gone to a community college and then transferred to a better school, I think it’s a good option (also would they be included in that 80-90%?). OP’s kid is smart and is going to have access to plenty of support, and can probably get a good GPA because classes there are easy. I think it’s a great stepping stone to a four year school (yeah it’s an adjustment but it’s an adjustment after high school too).

However it looks like OP has gotten some great options to look into that aren’t CCs so there’s that.

Thank you for making my point. It's a joke and a waste of the prime of the kid's life. And if you studied this at all, you'd realize community colleges can actually contribute to the regression of solid students, i.e. the young man will fall further behind his peers who went into real universities. If the kid dreams of becoming a nurse or something along those lines, by all means, but otherwise avoid at all costs.

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Anonymous wrote:Why no community college suggestions??? This is the perfect scenario to take advantage of community college and then transfer after a couple of years. No shame in community college.

Outside of nursing, dental tech, and some skilled trades, community college is a joke. And I say that after a 25 year career in higher ed. Community colleges are not serious places -- literally 80 to 90% of the students never complete their program. And the "instructors" are frequently bats*** morons.

And I say, as somebody who has known dozens of people who have gone to a community college and then transferred to a better school, I think it’s a good option (also would they be included in that 80-90%?). OP’s kid is smart and is going to have access to plenty of support, and can probably get a good GPA because classes there are easy. I think it’s a great stepping stone to a four year school (yeah it’s an adjustment but it’s an adjustment after high school too).

However it looks like OP has gotten some great options to look into that aren’t CCs so there’s that.

Thank you for making my point. It's a joke and a waste of the prime of the kid's life. And if you studied this at all, you'd realize community colleges can actually contribute to the regression of solid students, i.e. the young man will fall further behind his peers who went into real universities. If the kid dreams of becoming a nurse or something along those lines, by all means, but otherwise avoid at all costs.

I can't believe how disparaging you are towards CC. This is a kid who is at a private school with parents who can full pay for college, so the students have parents who could have paid or maybe actually did pay for tutors yet the student still has a 2.6 GPA. Somehow with a magic pill the student is miraculously going to become a good student. I would rather hire a young adult who went to CC then transferred to a state university over a student who went to a third or fourth tier private college.

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Anonymous wrote:My DC has a 2.6 GPA (lower if you look at only core classes) at a (not big 3) DMV private. 1380 SAT. Applied EA to 10 colleges recommended by school counselor. Only one college has rolling admissions and it was on the “match” list. Wait listed. Very concerned DC won’t get in to college. Has anyone else been in a similar grade/SAT situation? If so, where did your child get accepted? Wondering whether DC should apply to a couple more safeties RD. DC needs a small nurturing college with good supports (tutoring, writing center, approachable professors). Thank you. Please no snarks. And please no suggestions for community college. Thank you.

The key missing fact is whether you are seeking financial aid. If not, it will work out. DC was a 2.9 GPA with 26 ACT. Admittedly case a wide net - about 20 schools. But, in the end, got in to more than 3/4, even getting "merit" at a NESCAC (probably because of gender imbalance). Worried as well at the start, as things began with getting rejected ED but shortly thereafter got into big state school with rolling admissions and that took most of the pressure off.

Your DS got into a NESCAC school with those stats?

MESCACs doesn’t give merit. So, no.

NP. I am not sure that is correct. My DC got into Connecticut College last year with a higher GPA but lower scores (25 ACT). Received a lot of merit aid, but it may have been related to artistic talent. Isn’t Connecticut College NESCAC? DC ultimately chose a different school.

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Anonymous wrote:Why no community college suggestions??? This is the perfect scenario to take advantage of community college and then transfer after a couple of years. No shame in community college.

Outside of nursing, dental tech, and some skilled trades, community college is a joke. And I say that after a 25 year career in higher ed. Community colleges are not serious places -- literally 80 to 90% of the students never complete their program. And the "instructors" are frequently bats*** morons.

And I say, as somebody who has known dozens of people who have gone to a community college and then transferred to a better school, I think it’s a good option (also would they be included in that 80-90%?). OP’s kid is smart and is going to have access to plenty of support, and can probably get a good GPA because classes there are easy. I think it’s a great stepping stone to a four year school (yeah it’s an adjustment but it’s an adjustment after high school too).

However it looks like OP has gotten some great options to look into that aren’t CCs so there’s that.

Thank you for making my point. It's a joke and a waste of the prime of the kid's life. And if you studied this at all, you'd realize community colleges can actually contribute to the regression of solid students, i.e. the young man will fall further behind his peers who went into real universities. If the kid dreams of becoming a nurse or something along those lines, by all means, but otherwise avoid at all costs.

I did not make your point at all. High school classes are generally easier than community college classes (and I know that’s a generalization but I took community college classes in high school and they were plenty challenging); does that mean that high school classes are a joke? No. Classes at a second-tier university are going to be easier than classes at Harvard. Does that mean second-tier university classes are a joke? No. Sorry to say but my professors at community college classes could make your argument better that you are.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why no community college suggestions??? This is the perfect scenario to take advantage of community college and then transfer after a couple of years. No shame in community college.

Outside of nursing, dental tech, and some skilled trades, community college is a joke. And I say that after a 25 year career in higher ed. Community colleges are not serious places -- literally 80 to 90% of the students never complete their program. And the "instructors" are frequently bats*** morons.

I would think after 25 years in education you would express yourself more eloquently.

Yes the percentage of CC students who complete a bachelor's in 6 years is low -- about 13%, and only 30% make it to a 4 year institution

https://hechingerreport.org/why-so-few-students-transfer-from-community-colleges-to-four-year-universities/

However this data is self-selecting, and makes no assessment as to whether it is a good choice for a student who is financially challenged or a late bloomer academically. For those students, it is a lifechanging path.

Original PP here. I think that 30% is quite high and is an argument for going to a community college, especially since a lot of people who go to community colleges go there because they can’t get into a better school or because they have other circumstances behind intelligence and academic ability that make a bachelors unrealistic .

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Anonymous wrote:My DC has a 2.6 GPA (lower if you look at only core classes) at a (not big 3) DMV private. 1380 SAT. Applied EA to 10 colleges recommended by school counselor. Only one college has rolling admissions and it was on the “match” list. Wait listed. Very concerned DC won’t get in to college. Has anyone else been in a similar grade/SAT situation? If so, where did your child get accepted? Wondering whether DC should apply to a couple more safeties RD. DC needs a small nurturing college with good supports (tutoring, writing center, approachable professors). Thank you. Please no snarks. And please no suggestions for community college. Thank you.

The key missing fact is whether you are seeking financial aid. If not, it will work out. DC was a 2.9 GPA with 26 ACT. Admittedly case a wide net - about 20 schools. But, in the end, got in to more than 3/4, even getting "merit" at a NESCAC (probably because of gender imbalance). Worried as well at the start, as things began with getting rejected ED but shortly thereafter got into big state school with rolling admissions and that took most of the pressure off.

Your DS got into a NESCAC school with those stats?

MESCACs doesn’t give merit. So, no.

NP. I am not sure that is correct. My DC got into Connecticut College last year with a higher GPA but lower scores (25 ACT). Received a lot of merit aid, but it may have been related to artistic talent. Isn’t Connecticut College NESCAC? DC ultimately chose a different school.

+1. It is a school by school thing and Conn does. NESCAC as a group has no collective position.

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Radford blows nuts. STD rate is higher than the grad rate.

OP, you need to look at Rollins College in Florida. It is small and nurturing, and it devours kids like yours: students from elite private schools who graduate in the middle of the pack or below.

According to the GPA distribution from the school's most recent common data set, one fifth of incoming freshmen had below a 3.0 high school GPA, and another one-fifth had between a 3.0 and 3.25.

Your kid's SAT is also at or above their 75th percentile. I think your kid would be in like Flynn.

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I agree with Roanoke and McDaniel. Also try Washington College (MD), Loyola (MD), Goucher (MD), Catholic (DC), Hood College (MD), Stevenson (MD), Susquehannah (PA), Salsibury (MD). Additionally, look at Richard Bland of William and Mary as a good residential two year option that folds nicely into a 4 year college. GOOD LUCK!

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I agree with small and nurturing. Colleges that Change Lives colleges, for example. Arrange for a meeting this week with your college counselor. This is part of what your tuition is paying for. They know the past history from your child's HS and which colleges made favorable decisions with similar applicants. It is in their best interest to help your child confirm the list has enough safeties.