Alexandria soccer bottom dollar

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His salary aside, the guy has done more for the Alexandria Soccer program then had ever been done before. I dont know why all the hate.

Can you explain what he did that went beyond what was done before? General statements like this are unhelpful. We need specifics.

So do we. We are still waiting to hear all the bad stuff he’s done. Like hiring coaches who became VYSA and CCL Coaches of the Year. Taking the club into CCL based in large part on substantial investment in enhancing access for kids who might not otherwise play. Being one of 17 out of 175 clubs nationally to be accepted as a supplemental club in MLS Next. Winning Futsal national championships as a club (not as a Futsal only collection of players, as in other major metro areas). Now that’s due to the efforts of a lot of people. But I think a lot of this happened on his watch. I am not saying that this justifies substantial salaries or salary increases of any individual. And other people and clubs are doing great things too. But this isn’t a bad record.

Alexandria staff back on the boards. Give it a rest already. All kidding aside, you should really see someone about your mental health. This obsession with fawning over Alexandria is disconcerting. No normal person throws out those statements with that tone.

LMVSC and SYC have similar claims. We vilify those clubs, but why does Alexandria get a pass? Maybe if you over pay, you’re not allowed to complain.

Get a life. I am an Alexandria parent and fawn over nothing. But facts are facts. LMVSC lost their top coaches and is renting teams to play CCL. And I said "other people and clubs are doing great things too" - SYC has turned things around organizationally, coaching, and leaguewise (taking coaches and teams from LMVSC instead of developing more organically, but you do what you gotta do and see if it works). Complain as you want. I still haven't heard the real basis for complaint other than "somebody is making more money than me." Anything else? I thought as much.

A lot more going on there than you realize. Wait for it.

[Anonymous]

i was the guy the originally stated that Tommy has done some really good stuff with the club since he took over. I opted not to take the bait when someone wanted it listed and explained. If you dont already know you arent going to listen to what I have to say. That said I thank the other poster for the short list of accomplishments the club has done in the past few years. I second your thoughts and agree entirely. I was involved with the club before Tommy so I know what it was prior. I can say the club is better today, more active in the community and the teams compete at a higher level. Just my opinion.

So when i asked what besides his salary is so bad I heard nothing. No one has a thing to offer?

Oh wait, the most recent post sums it up. A real cliffhanger.

"A lot more going on there than you realize. Wait for it."

Are you serious? is that the best you can do? Im asking to be persuaded and thats the best argument you can provide.

[Anonymous]

i was the guy the originally stated that Tommy has done some really good stuff with the club since he took over. I opted not to take the bait when someone wanted it listed and explained. If you dont already know you arent going to listen to what I have to say.

I'm the person who asked and it wasn't "bait." My child plays travel for Alexandria but is young, so I have no idea what the club was like before Tommy or what he did in comparison to other clubs. Not everything is a trap, and not everyone's life revolves around following travel soccer. Grow up.

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Coach here

From what I can see online, Alexandria's fees seem about average when compared to surrounding clubs.

I saw some comments about tournaments, but honestly as long as the competition is good, and ideally against teams you wouldn't normally play against I don't see the issue.

Unless your a high level and older team looking for college exposure, tournaments are just extra games in a different format.

Unless someone is literally shopping for clubs based on price, not sure what else there is to talk about.

[Anonymous]

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i was the guy the originally stated that Tommy has done some really good stuff with the club since he took over. I opted not to take the bait when someone wanted it listed and explained. If you dont already know you arent going to listen to what I have to say.

I'm the person who asked and it wasn't "bait." My child plays travel for Alexandria but is young, so I have no idea what the club was like before Tommy or what he did in comparison to other clubs. Not everything is a trap, and not everyone's life revolves around following travel soccer. Grow up.

The rec program was a lot better and more competitive pre-Tommy. Today, the clubs red teams should get kids onto their HS teams, but all the other ASA teams are still playing rec level soccer at travel prices. The focus over the years has been about developing expensive programs. These programs get the priority and the more affordable options are neglected.

[Anonymous]

i was the guy the originally stated that Tommy has done some really good stuff with the club since he took over. I opted not to take the bait when someone wanted it listed and explained. If you dont already know you arent going to listen to what I have to say.


I'm the person who asked and it wasn't "bait." My child plays travel for Alexandria but is young, so I have no idea what the club was like before Tommy or what he did in comparison to other clubs. Not everything is a trap, and not everyone's life revolves around following travel soccer. Grow up.


The rec program was a lot better and more competitive pre-Tommy. Today, the clubs red teams should get kids onto their HS teams, but all the other ASA teams are still playing rec level soccer at travel prices. The focus over the years has been about developing expensive programs. These programs get the priority and the more affordable options are neglected.

What do you want them to do for rec? My son is currently on ASA's blue team (he's a a pre-teen). He used to play rec, and the experience varied widely based upon his coaches, all of whom were volunteers. Were there ever paid coaches for rec? If not, what could ASA do to make a program with volunteer coaches, all of whom have different personalities and experience levels, better?

[Anonymous]

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i was the guy the originally stated that Tommy has done some really good stuff with the club since he took over. I opted not to take the bait when someone wanted it listed and explained. If you dont already know you arent going to listen to what I have to say.

I'm the person who asked and it wasn't "bait." My child plays travel for Alexandria but is young, so I have no idea what the club was like before Tommy or what he did in comparison to other clubs. Not everything is a trap, and not everyone's life revolves around following travel soccer. Grow up.

The rec program was a lot better and more competitive pre-Tommy. Today, the clubs red teams should get kids onto their HS teams, but all the other ASA teams are still playing rec level soccer at travel prices. The focus over the years has been about developing expensive programs. These programs get the priority and the more affordable options are neglected.

Did you say the rec program was more competitive?
Rec is fun, some limited competition and either a pathway to play more challenging games in travel for instance or simply just to test a kids interest in the game and let them enjoy learning the basics.
Competitive is not the term I would affix to any Rec program

The most hungry competitive player types opt for travel. You can even see a difference between top team club players on a travel squad and the second and third team. The hunger to excel and compete is clearly more obvious in top team players. Doesnt mean the other kids dont compete its just not as much a driving force. If it was they would train more, longer, harder and make the top team where their talent and hunger will be further challenged.

[Anonymous]

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i was the guy the originally stated that Tommy has done some really good stuff with the club since he took over. I opted not to take the bait when someone wanted it listed and explained. If you dont already know you arent going to listen to what I have to say.


I'm the person who asked and it wasn't "bait." My child plays travel for Alexandria but is young, so I have no idea what the club was like before Tommy or what he did in comparison to other clubs. Not everything is a trap, and not everyone's life revolves around following travel soccer. Grow up.


The rec program was a lot better and more competitive pre-Tommy. Today, the clubs red teams should get kids onto their HS teams, but all the other ASA teams are still playing rec level soccer at travel prices. The focus over the years has been about developing expensive programs. These programs get the priority and the more affordable options are neglected.

What do you want them to do for rec? My son is currently on ASA's blue team (he's a a pre-teen). He used to play rec, and the experience varied widely based upon his coaches, all of whom were volunteers. Were there ever paid coaches for rec? If not, what could ASA do to make a program with volunteer coaches, all of whom have different personalities and experience levels, better?

What people should be asking is how many coaches could they hire to work with the rec program if they paid their director a market rate. It seems like there is $100K-$200K available, assuming the club starts paying the rates that every other club pays in the region for their director.

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The local club rec program by my house charges $80 for the rec season. $80!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Think about the cost baked into running a Rec program and offset that by $80 per kid. It is not a money making program. Field space, insurance, personnel, equipment and ...
Rec programs use volunteer parents for the most part as no money exists at this rate to pay a coach
So your solution is to take money from the Directors salary to pay coaches at the Rec level?

At the REC LEVEL??????

Help me understand what the problem is with the current Rec environment that we now need to pay coaches to coach at that level? By doing so it will drive the cost of Rec soccer from $80 to $180 or more and eliminate more and more kids that have parents challenged to afford another 100, 200 expense.

Oh i see, so take it from the Director to allow the community more access to higher paid coaches. I see.

So how does this work at clubs where the Director is not overpaid? Just to be clear he is over paid but I dont see how your solution is viable, necessary and useful widespread

[Anonymous]

Clubs do make money off their rec programs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

i was the guy the originally stated that Tommy has done some really good stuff with the club since he took over. I opted not to take the bait when someone wanted it listed and explained. If you dont already know you arent going to listen to what I have to say.


I'm the person who asked and it wasn't "bait." My child plays travel for Alexandria but is young, so I have no idea what the club was like before Tommy or what he did in comparison to other clubs. Not everything is a trap, and not everyone's life revolves around following travel soccer. Grow up.


The rec program was a lot better and more competitive pre-Tommy. Today, the clubs red teams should get kids onto their HS teams, but all the other ASA teams are still playing rec level soccer at travel prices. The focus over the years has been about developing expensive programs. These programs get the priority and the more affordable options are neglected.

What do you want them to do for rec? My son is currently on ASA's blue team (he's a a pre-teen). He used to play rec, and the experience varied widely based upon his coaches, all of whom were volunteers. Were there ever paid coaches for rec? If not, what could ASA do to make a program with volunteer coaches, all of whom have different personalities and experience levels, better?

What people should be asking is how many coaches could they hire to work with the rec program if they paid their director a market rate. It seems like there is $100K-$200K available, assuming the club starts paying the rates that every other club pays in the region for their director.

Big money

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:i was the guy the originally stated that Tommy has done some really good stuff with the club since he took over. I opted not to take the bait when someone wanted it listed and explained. If you dont already know you arent going to listen to what I have to say. That said I thank the other poster for the short list of accomplishments the club has done in the past few years. I second your thoughts and agree entirely. I was involved with the club before Tommy so I know what it was prior. I can say the club is better today, more active in the community and the teams compete at a higher level. Just my opinion.

So when i asked what besides his salary is so bad I heard nothing. No one has a thing to offer?

Oh wait, the most recent post sums it up. A real cliffhanger.

"A lot more going on there than you realize. Wait for it."

Are you serious? is that the best you can do? Im asking to be persuaded and thats the best argument you can provide.

I've heard he's mixed up with Hunter Biden - it's all on the laptop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Clubs do make money off their rec programs.

as well they should make money on their rec program otherwise they would trash the program and move on. Should they not make money on their rec program? The make it in volumes of players not in the cost of the registration.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Clubs do make money off their rec programs.

as well they should make money on their rec program otherwise they would trash the program and move on. Should they not make money on their rec program? The make it in volumes of players not in the cost of the registration.

If they are a non-profit, they should make enough to cover their expenses. As a lot of these local clubs grow, they seem to have forgotten their purpose. ( and the nice tax benefits they enjoy because they are supposed to be operating solely for that purpose.)

[Anonymous]

no where in the non profit status obligation does it state they cannot grow. I work for a non profit and we drive sales and revenue as hard as most for profits I previously worked for. The goal is to grow the company.

Making enough money to cover their expenses is not what non profits are in the business of doing. They are there to grow, increase revenue, reinvest in the business and pay their employees a respectable salary.