The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021

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MCPS reported 70% participation with distance learning. The quality of education should improve when they prepare for the fall, and they are working on it now.

My children and their friends are learning very well with distance learning.

Get with the program, OP.

I wonder where they are getting the 70% from. Can’t be the zoom check-ins. Since they announced the grading policy only single digits have been attending.

Source, please? I don’t believe this is true, but if it is, then those schools need to step up their outreach to students and families. Why would parents and guardians tolerate this? School and learning involves much more than grades and what happens inside of brick and mortar buildings. So many industries have evolved over the last 100 years...it’s unfortunate that we can’t have the same expectations of innovation for learning and teaching.

Just my DCs observation from every class check in DC attends. Last week highest they had was 9 in one class. Lowest was 2. Others in between. Why would DC HS be an outlier?

The check-ins are OPTIONAL. It doesn't mean the kids aren’t working, idiot.
My son rarely does the check-ins because he knows how to learn by himself. He has all As and turns in every assignment on time.
Walter Johnson.

What a nice Walter Johnson parent.

Sorry, not sorry, but I hate misinformation, and people casually dumping on teachers and school systems without pausing to think it through and criticize fairly.

Participation in optional live check-ins at the high school level does not equate to participation in required assignment completion.

I think the OP was saying that many students need live instruction of some sort rather than just turning in assignments in a vacuum.

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MCPS reported 70% participation with distance learning. The quality of education should improve when they prepare for the fall, and they are working on it now.

My children and their friends are learning very well with distance learning.

Get with the program, OP.

Wait, you think 70% of kids participating is GOOD?

Did I say that? No, I reported the official number and added that things should get better in the fall, as MCPS is preparing for fall distance learning now.

Guess what. Distance learning does not work for everyone as that 70% figure indicates. But who cares about the kids whose parents can’t helicopter or the poor kids that can’t get online right? You don’t think in person school serves more than 70%? Oh right you don’t care.

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Did I say that? No, I reported the official number and added that things should get better in the fall, as MCPS is preparing for fall distance learning now.

You can't imagine how much I think here shouldn't be "distance learning" in the fall. It's a stopgap for now. Doing it again next fall will be intolerable. It's not working.

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Did I say that? No, I reported the official number and added that things should get better in the fall, as MCPS is preparing for fall distance learning now.

You can't imagine how much I think here shouldn't be "distance learning" in the fall. It's a stopgap for now. Doing it again next fall will be intolerable. It's not working.

Exactly. And closing schools is not even proven to save lives. Stop the insanity and let the kids go back.

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The schools should open. Even if a vaccine becomes available, it won’t help just because those who were tested positive for the virus and recovered ( tested negative) are getting infected and testing positive again. Unless coronavirus does not follow the regular bath way to immunology, a vaccine ( which contains traces of coronavirus) won’t help at all.

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Anonymous wrote:The sooner people accept this new reality the better. Schools in this area will look very different this fall. Kids will likely only be in the classroom one or two days a week. Smart parents are preparing for this new reality. You will not have school as your childcare. If that doesn’t work for you, it’s time to consider relocating to a more rural part of the US. Or, plan to homeschool.

Which do you prefer, kids staying home by themselves unsafely (or going to work with their parents unsafely), or kids going to school? Those are your choices.

Not really. That may be what some people decide, but others will come up with different solutions. What is clear is that most kids will not be going M-F from 8-3 with before and after care. The sooner everyone accepts this, the better.

Calling this a "decision" suggests that you really have no understanding of what many people are up against. As though people are going to sit around thinking, "Well, I could use good childcare, or I could leave my child at home in danger while I work to keep a roof over our heads. You know what? I think I'll decide to keep my child at home in danger!"

Let’s not pretend this a new issue. Until now, we have been perfectly fine letting the poor and marginalized struggle and slip through the cracks. What did everyone think was going to happen when we completely dismantled any type of safety net?

This is the same poster who talks continually about a lack of safety net in this country, but obviously has no idea about being poor and how much is spent to help the poor. It gets old.

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This is the same poster who talks continually about a lack of safety net in this country, but obviously has no idea about being poor and how much is spent to help the poor. It gets old.

I think we're all pretty clear on public expenditures to help the poor vs. public expenditures to help the rich.

Which is why it's all the more necessary for schools to open, for all kids but especially poor kids.

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This is the same poster who talks continually about a lack of safety net in this country, but obviously has no idea about being poor and how much is spent to help the poor. It gets old.

I think we're all pretty clear on public expenditures to help the poor vs. public expenditures to help the rich.

Which is why it's all the more necessary for schools to open, for all kids but especially poor kids.

Obviously "we're" not.

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Anonymous wrote:The schools should open. Even if a vaccine becomes available, it won’t help just because those who were tested positive for the virus and recovered ( tested negative) are getting infected and testing positive again. Unless coronavirus does not follow the regular bath way to immunology, a vaccine ( which contains traces of coronavirus) won’t help at all.

Nope. You are wrong. They are not getting reinfected.

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This is the same poster who talks continually about a lack of safety net in this country, but obviously has no idea about being poor and how much is spent to help the poor. It gets old.

I think we're all pretty clear on public expenditures to help the poor vs. public expenditures to help the rich.

Which is why it's all the more necessary for schools to open, for all kids but especially poor kids.

Obviously "we're" not.

Yeah.

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Anonymous wrote:The sooner people accept this new reality the better. Schools in this area will look very different this fall. Kids will likely only be in the classroom one or two days a week. Smart parents are preparing for this new reality. You will not have school as your childcare. If that doesn’t work for you, it’s time to consider relocating to a more rural part of the US. Or, plan to homeschool.

Which do you prefer, kids staying home by themselves unsafely (or going to work with their parents unsafely), or kids going to school? Those are your choices.

Not really. That may be what some people decide, but others will come up with different solutions. What is clear is that most kids will not be going M-F from 8-3 with before and after care. The sooner everyone accepts this, the better.

Calling this a "decision" suggests that you really have no understanding of what many people are up against. As though people are going to sit around thinking, "Well, I could use good childcare, or I could leave my child at home in danger while I work to keep a roof over our heads. You know what? I think I'll decide to keep my child at home in danger!"

Let’s not pretend this a new issue. Until now, we have been perfectly fine letting the poor and marginalized struggle and slip through the cracks. What did everyone think was going to happen when we completely dismantled any type of safety net?

This is the same poster who talks continually about a lack of safety net in this country, but obviously has no idea about being poor and how much is spent to help the poor. It gets old.

Nope. I have never talked about it here before. But I have spent a lot of time dealing with it. And I am so sick of people suddenly pretending to care about the poor. Really. What did you think was going to happen? That we could have the rich get richer and the poor get poorer and it was going to end well?

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Anonymous wrote:The schools should open. Even if a vaccine becomes available, it won’t help just because those who were tested positive for the virus and recovered ( tested negative) are getting infected and testing positive again. Unless coronavirus does not follow the regular bath way to immunology, a vaccine ( which contains traces of coronavirus) won’t help at all.

There's no evidence of re-infection.

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Anonymous wrote:The schools should open. Even if a vaccine becomes available, it won’t help just because those who were tested positive for the virus and recovered ( tested negative) are getting infected and testing positive again. Unless coronavirus does not follow the regular bath way to immunology, a vaccine ( which contains traces of coronavirus) won’t help at all.

There's no evidence of re-infection.

There is actually evidence that this does not happen. They have proven it. Someone needs to become a better google scientist.

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OP, you are insane. With the current mortality being about .3%, it does not make sense to shut down until fall 2021. This is madness,, you people have no sense of proportion and the risk that exists every single day you walk out the door and could be killed in hundreds of ways. The seasonal flu last year killed hundreds more children than this virus has.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's be honest. So many parents in MoCo are reaching their limit trying to WFH while the kids are around. Tons of parents admit their kids are basically learning nothing while trying to learn remotely. But what now that there is a very real potential for this to drag all the way to the summer/fall of 2021? A vaccine, even if we assume one is made, will take until then. We should also anticipate a second wave in the fall this year. Universities are already telling their students that fall semester on campus won't happen. It is highly likely that it will be the same for public schools. Is this going to require kids to go to summer school over several years so that there will be school for 12 months to catch up? They may have to eliminate summer breaks for a couple years to fix deficiencies in learning progress from what's basically little schooling for 1.5-2 years.

No, there isn't.

The first day of school in MCPS is August 31. That's 100 days from now. 100 days ago was February 13. How much were you worrying about coronavirus on February 13?

Lots of things can happen in 100 days.

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This makes me feel good. A reasonable way to think about it. Like a version of what we tell little kids- 100 days Is a looong time. Let’s just not freak out quite yet. Thanks, PP