Beauvoir 2nd Grade ERB Results

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:

They come in unable or barely able to multiply and divide. Wasted way too much time going over regrouping 3-digit numbers and multiplication drills. Lower school head started the year off asking parents to make sure that their sons know their multiplication tables. More multiplication and division drills in 5th grade just to accommodate the Beauvoir boys.


What grade do you teach at STA?



I'm a STA parent.

With a bias against Beauvoir kids.
Anonymous
New STA parent here (and Beauvoir parent). I don't think that it's necessarily a bias so much as an observation. We had a lovely experience with Beauvoir. But it's undeniable that math facts were not high on the priority list (at least not for our teachers). So that meant the summer between 3rd and 4th had to be dedicated to math facts (multiplication and division), which had to be solidified throughout the year. My son's first year was not a problem, however. He did great in math. But he would have had significantly more difficulty had he not boned up on the math facts before he got there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

They come in unable or barely able to multiply and divide. Wasted way too much time going over regrouping 3-digit numbers and multiplication drills. Lower school head started the year off asking parents to make sure that their sons know their multiplication tables. More multiplication and division drills in 5th grade just to accommodate the Beauvoir boys.


What grade do you teach at STA?



I'm a STA parent.


With a bias against Beauvoir kids.


Not biased at all. It's a situation that's difficult to ignore.
Anonymous
Math facts are now part of the B math curriculum. My 3rd grader has several pages of rote math facts per night.
Anonymous
those seem like hard questions for a first grader - so i'm impressed - my kids are younger, but i'd be happy if they know those answers when they are in first grade!


At the half way mark in kindergarten and my 5-year-old answered all the questions correctly at a prestigious public school in Montgomery County. We may consider a high school entry for one of the elite privates around the country when the time comes.

Anonymous
I have not read all of the post but these test scores are important. Good schools usually send the sheet that shows how the school did on the whole (bragging rights for the school)and the sheet that shows the averages for each class. These percentiles and stanines show how your child compares to the rest of the country and lets you know if your child is learning the skills they should learn at that grade level. When the scores go down in a particular area the school should be looking for a new curriculum or at spending more time on the subject matter. If your child is missing basic skills in math in elementary school they will still be missing those skills in high school. I would ask to see how the class and school performed before I signed another tuition agreement. That said NCS is a great school but may have been sold a bad math curriculum. It happens.
Anonymous
I have not read all of the post but these test scores are important. Good schools usually send the sheet that shows how the school did on the whole (bragging rights for the school)and the sheet that shows the averages for each class. These percentiles and stanines show how your child compares to the rest of the country and lets you know if your child is learning the skills they should learn at that grade level. When the scores go down in a particular area the school should be looking for a new curriculum or at spending more time on the subject matter. If your child is missing basic skills in math in elementary school they will still be missing those skills in high school. I would ask to see how the class and school performed before I signed another tuition agreement. That said NCS is a great school but may have been sold a bad math curriculum. It happens.



If the school presents the data they are bragging; if they hold onto the data they are hiding something.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Beauvoir alum chiming in. DC had perfect 9s in each of his math stanines across the board. Also loves math, I enriched his math experience with several online programs. I didn't trust the level of math that he was getting in the classroom. The parents who shared scores with me revealed how disappointed they were with their child's math scores.

Prepare on your own for next fall's ERBs, research programs, talk to Beauvoir's curriculum leader.


OP here. Thanks for sharing. It does trouble me that we are paying so much and yet have to supplement the teaching as well. Ah well - we live and learn.


I don't understand something: If 2nd grade ERB's don't "count" ,but the results aren't sent to Beauvoir until Jan. ( after an exam in Nov.) how can the 3rd grade ERB's be used for criteria to admit to STA/NCS as presumably Beauvoir wont have those results until Jan. either and yet families are told yes or no in early December( a month before the school gets the 3rd grade ERB results)???
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Beauvoir alum chiming in. DC had perfect 9s in each of his math stanines across the board. Also loves math, I enriched his math experience with several online programs. I didn't trust the level of math that he was getting in the classroom. The parents who shared scores with me revealed how disappointed they were with their child's math scores.

Prepare on your own for next fall's ERBs, research programs, talk to Beauvoir's curriculum leader.


OP here. Thanks for sharing. It does trouble me that we are paying so much and yet have to supplement the teaching as well. Ah well - we live and learn.


I don't understand something: If 2nd grade ERB's don't "count" ,but the results aren't sent to Beauvoir until Jan. ( after an exam in Nov.) how can the 3rd grade ERB's be used for criteria to admit to STA/NCS as presumably Beauvoir wont have those results until Jan. either and yet families are told yes or no in early December( a month before the school gets the 3rd grade ERB results)???



Unless the process has changed, in Dec you receive verbal feedback from Beauvoir providing you a general sense whether or not things look good for your DS/DD. The official acceptance letter arrives a little after mid January.

My DS had a few average verbal subset scores that STA called Beauvoir about prior to the arrival of his January acceptance letter.
Anonymous
I think the question is which scores do STA/NCS use : the 2nd grade ERB or the 3rd Grade ERB as it seems that no one has 3rd grade ERB results until after January acceptance letters are mailed by these schools to Beauvoir families. In other words, how can NCS/STA question an ERB score on a 3rd grader, if the results aren't back to the school until January. On what then is the verbal yes/no made? Is it 2nd grade ERB's , reports or something else?
Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]I think the question is which scores do STA/NCS use : the 2nd grade ERB or the 3rd Grade ERB as it seems that no one has 3rd grade ERB results until after January acceptance letters are mailed by these schools to Beauvoir families. In other words, how can NCS/STA question an ERB score on a 3rd grader, if the results aren't back to the school until January. On what then is the verbal yes/no made? Is it 2nd grade ERB's , reports or something else? [/quote]


In my DS's situation Beauvoir had sent the 3rd grade ERB scores over in early January when they received them (prior to the acceptance/rejection letters going out). The families also received them in the mail during this period.
Anonymous
STA only really looks at ERBS if there is a question or concern. They don't receive 2nd grade ERBS but will look at 3rd grade as they are available early January.
Anonymous
Our son is in 3rd grade at Beauvoir. We were told that the decision is essentially made based on STA's own tests and that STA will only consider the ERBs if there is still doubt after their own tests. My understanding is that after the tests parents are told a) your child is as good as in, b) there are some concerns, let's see how he does in the ERBs , or c) unlikely your child will be admitted so best start looking elsewhere.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Our son is in 3rd grade at Beauvoir. We were told that the decision is essentially made based on STA's own tests and that STA will only consider the ERBs if there is still doubt after their own tests. My understanding is that after the tests parents are told a) your child is as good as in, b) there are some concerns, let's see how he does in the ERBs , or c) unlikely your child will be admitted so best start looking elsewhere.


My son did extremely well on his STA test. A few of his ERB subset scores were inconsistent so Beauvoir was called to further elaborate on his abilities. Our December feedback was positive.

He applied for an academic program during his first few years as a STA student and we learned of his admission test score during that process.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our son is in 3rd grade at Beauvoir. We were told that the decision is essentially made based on STA's own tests and that STA will only consider the ERBs if there is still doubt after their own tests. My understanding is that after the tests parents are told a) your child is as good as in, b) there are some concerns, let's see how he does in the ERBs , or c) unlikely your child will be admitted so best start looking elsewhere.


My son did extremely well on his STA test. A few of his ERB subset scores were inconsistent so Beauvoir was called to further elaborate on his abilities. Our December feedback was positive.

He applied for an academic program during his first few years as a STA student and we learned of his admission test score during that process.


Are you saying that you were not told your DS's score/performance on the STA test in numerical/statistical form until years after he was admitted? Does the same go for NCS?
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