Too crowded. DMV governors and mayors: please dedicate streets to walkers and bikers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Joggers and cyclists need to give people wide berth, given the latest research. Or wear masks?

That "latest research" isn't research. It's some engineers running a computer model.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v74az9/the-viral-study-about-runners-spreading-coronavirus-is-not-actually-a-study

It's still true that people (walking, running, biking, playing, whatever) need a lot more space right now, and that space can only come from reallocating street space from cars to people.

Or the people staying home...as requested. Who knew this would be so hard to understand. Standing by for all of the reasons you want to go for your walk now or bike ride or play basketball or kick a ball at the park.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Joggers and cyclists need to give people wide berth, given the latest research. Or wear masks?

That "latest research" isn't research. It's some engineers running a computer model.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v74az9/the-viral-study-about-runners-spreading-coronavirus-is-not-actually-a-study

It's still true that people (walking, running, biking, playing, whatever) need a lot more space right now, and that space can only come from reallocating street space from cars to people.

Or the people staying home...as requested. Who knew this would be so hard to understand. Standing by for all of the reasons you want to go for your walk now or bike ride or play basketball or kick a ball at the park.

Read the stay-at-home order. People are allowed to go outside for exercise. If you disagree, take it up with the DC government.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We here you. We are working on getting our NE neighborhood closed to cut-thru traffic. Just pedestrians and bikes unless someone or a delivery is trying to get to their house.

If I were making a delivery to you I’d just leave it a few blocks away, where I could drive. You can come get it.

You might want to work on your reading comprehension skills. The PP clearly excepted deliveries to homes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So the anti-car jihadists are really just doing it for the old people? Right.

Also, do you actually live here? There are TONS of places to walk where you will not run into anyone. If you walked up 16th Street, starting at Piney Branch, and went all the way up to the Maryland border, I bet you could count on one hand the number of people you would pass on the sidewalk.

People want to walk in their own neighborhoods, not get in a car (assuming they have a car and can drive it) and drive to somewhere else in the city so that they can get out and walk and then get back in their car and drive home.

They can. There's hardly anyone out. I could walk for miles in my neighborhoods without running into anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We here you. We are working on getting our NE neighborhood closed to cut-thru traffic. Just pedestrians and bikes unless someone or a delivery is trying to get to their house.

How would you police this?

[Anonymous]

Love hearing all the pro-density people whining about the city being too crowded. LOVE IT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, the chances of you getting Covid 19 from the outside air for someone 3 feet for a split second is very slim. People who are really sick are not going outside. I know there are some cases where people could be asymptomatic, but you also have to be practical and reasonable OP. If you anxiety is that bad, then you need to travel somewhere remote or stay home.

The 6' thing is about extended time, not a fraction of a second outside.

Just stay home. Namaste.

The writer Deborah Kogan thinks she got it while riding her bike in NYC. So yes possible.

Well if she thinks it it must be true! She can’t have possibly have gotten it any other way! 🙄

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Love hearing all the pro-density people whining about the city being too crowded. LOVE IT.

Nobody is complaining about the city being too crowded.

People are complaining that the sidewalks are not big enough for people to be able to walk at six-foot distances from each other. Which they're not. Fortunately, there's an easy solution to this problem, namely open the existing streets for people to walk on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So the anti-car jihadists are really just doing it for the old people? Right.

Also, do you actually live here? There are TONS of places to walk where you will not run into anyone. If you walked up 16th Street, starting at Piney Branch, and went all the way up to the Maryland border, I bet you could count on one hand the number of people you would pass on the sidewalk.

People want to walk in their own neighborhoods, not get in a car (assuming they have a car and can drive it) and drive to somewhere else in the city so that they can get out and walk and then get back in their car and drive home.

They can. There's hardly anyone out. I could walk for miles in my neighborhoods without running into anyone.

That's nice for you, but people who are not you, who live in neighborhoods that are not yours, are in fact unable to walk in their own neighborhoods at appropriate distances. Including in the suburbs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So the anti-car jihadists are really just doing it for the old people? Right.

Also, do you actually live here? There are TONS of places to walk where you will not run into anyone. If you walked up 16th Street, starting at Piney Branch, and went all the way up to the Maryland border, I bet you could count on one hand the number of people you would pass on the sidewalk.

People want to walk in their own neighborhoods, not get in a car (assuming they have a car and can drive it) and drive to somewhere else in the city so that they can get out and walk and then get back in their car and drive home.

They can. There's hardly anyone out. I could walk for miles in my neighborhoods without running into anyone.

That's nice for you, but people who are not you, who live in neighborhoods that are not yours, are in fact unable to walk in their own neighborhoods at appropriate distances. Including in the suburbs.

Get in a car. Drive around the city. Look at the sidewalks. There's hardly anyone out. Most people are not morons, and understand that stay at home, means stay at home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So the anti-car jihadists are really just doing it for the old people? Right.

Also, do you actually live here? There are TONS of places to walk where you will not run into anyone. If you walked up 16th Street, starting at Piney Branch, and went all the way up to the Maryland border, I bet you could count on one hand the number of people you would pass on the sidewalk.

People want to walk in their own neighborhoods, not get in a car (assuming they have a car and can drive it) and drive to somewhere else in the city so that they can get out and walk and then get back in their car and drive home.

They can. There's hardly anyone out. I could walk for miles in my neighborhoods without running into anyone.

That's nice for you, but people who are not you, who live in neighborhoods that are not yours, are in fact unable to walk in their own neighborhoods at appropriate distances. Including in the suburbs.

Where is this happening? Be specific -- which streets are too crowded to walk on?

This is a phony baloney problem by the anti-car jihadists who are trying to take advantage of the coronavirus emergency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So the anti-car jihadists are really just doing it for the old people? Right.

Also, do you actually live here? There are TONS of places to walk where you will not run into anyone. If you walked up 16th Street, starting at Piney Branch, and went all the way up to the Maryland border, I bet you could count on one hand the number of people you would pass on the sidewalk.

People want to walk in their own neighborhoods, not get in a car (assuming they have a car and can drive it) and drive to somewhere else in the city so that they can get out and walk and then get back in their car and drive home.

They can. There's hardly anyone out. I could walk for miles in my neighborhoods without running into anyone.

That's nice for you, but people who are not you, who live in neighborhoods that are not yours, are in fact unable to walk in their own neighborhoods at appropriate distances. Including in the suburbs.

Where is this happening? Be specific -- which streets are too crowded to walk on?

This is a phony baloney problem by the anti-car jihadists who are trying to take advantage of the coronavirus emergency.

A standard sidewalk is five feet wide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So the anti-car jihadists are really just doing it for the old people? Right.

Also, do you actually live here? There are TONS of places to walk where you will not run into anyone. If you walked up 16th Street, starting at Piney Branch, and went all the way up to the Maryland border, I bet you could count on one hand the number of people you would pass on the sidewalk.

People want to walk in their own neighborhoods, not get in a car (assuming they have a car and can drive it) and drive to somewhere else in the city so that they can get out and walk and then get back in their car and drive home.

They can. There's hardly anyone out. I could walk for miles in my neighborhoods without running into anyone.

That's nice for you, but people who are not you, who live in neighborhoods that are not yours, are in fact unable to walk in their own neighborhoods at appropriate distances. Including in the suburbs.

Where is this happening? Be specific -- which streets are too crowded to walk on?

This is a phony baloney problem by the anti-car jihadists who are trying to take advantage of the coronavirus emergency.

A standard sidewalk is five feet wide.

Yes, in some places the sidewalk is only 5 feet, but there is a treebox area adjacent to the sidewalk as well as the adjacent roadway. We just step off the sidewalk when needed to avoid inappropriately close encounters. There is very little traffic, and the few cars on the road give us wide berth when we need to be in the street. I think Mayor is right to decline closing streets - she has said she is afraid of creating a festival like gathering in the streets on those closed roadways, which is exactly what is happening now on beach drive on weekends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, in some places the sidewalk is only 5 feet, but there is a treebox area adjacent to the sidewalk as well as the adjacent roadway. We just step off the sidewalk when needed to avoid inappropriately close encounters. There is very little traffic, and the few cars on the road give us wide berth when we need to be in the street. I think Mayor is right to decline closing streets - she has said she is afraid of creating a festival like gathering in the streets on those closed roadways, which is exactly what is happening now on beach drive on weekends.

How lovely for you, that you are able to do that. Not everyone is.

Not to mention - if you're already walking in the street, and there's very little traffic, what exactly is the problem with making it official?

[Anonymous]

Some neighborhoods in america are enforcing staying on the correct side of road (so everyone moves along in same direction). Dc could also designate streets/trails for the cyclists and joggers spraying droplets, and they could be with each other? So many have come up swiftly behind me and cut close, with zero regard for my ability to maneuver to the side and away. If DC got creative they could send out a designated map that brought a little more order and safety to the outdoor exercise scene.