Are you letting your teen have a friend over to hang out for a bit?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like the concept of sacrificing for the greater good is separating the faux-liberals from the true liberals. If you cannot social-distance for the greater good for a few weeks, you are not a liberal.

Don’t dislocate your shoulder patting yourself on the back.

Why not? Why not pat yourself on the back for doing something that clearly you can’t do?

My family and I are following all of the current recommendations regarding social distancing for people living in DC. If you want to do more in order to get that self-satisfied glow, knock yourself out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One friend is fine. Heard some doctor on the radio actually recommend it, the boost to the psyche would then boost immune system

Any "doctor" who uses the term "boost the immune system" is a quack to begin with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know plenty of people allowing a best friend over that’s not prohibited and if both families are limiting grocery store trips etc. driving in the car to the same other house isn’t a big deal at all.

Yep. DCUM is a microcosm that isn't in any way representative of the population at large, even in the DMV. This is pretty much what most normal, average folks are doing at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone provide a link to a reputable source that says that having no friends over is the thing we should be doing so I can share it with my teen?

Why You Shouldn't Go To Your Friend's House While Social Distancing by Brittany Wong
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dont-visit-friends-social-distancing_l_5e7539b1c5b6eab77948423b

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One friend is fine. Heard some doctor on the radio actually recommend it, the boost to the psyche would then boost immune system

Any "doctor" who uses the term "boost the immune system" is a quack to begin with.

The NYT disagrees:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/well/live/can-i-boost-my-immune-system.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

[Anonymous]

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You need to get on Twitter to hear the stories of people struggling with Coronavirus. Just because people aren't dying doesn't mean it's a cakewalk. I've seen fainting, hallucinations, panicked calls with 104 degree fever, etc.

You really shouldn’t rely on Twitter for medical information.

And the people who are posting the worst stories are very self-selecting.The large majority of infected people who have mild to moderate symptoms aren’t posting, because there’s nothing interesting about their story.

WTF - how is reading stories relying on Twitter for medical information. Yeah, I'm sure they're self selecting because they want to get out information that is not being otherwise reported and to warn people that it's not necessarily easy if you get it. Why should those stories not be as believable as the folks who say they are asymptomatic? They're all over Twitter too. Do you only want to hear those stories to help you justify letting your kids hang out with friends all day. It's a gamble, that's what the stories on both sides prove. Some are clearly more willing to take it, while others are not.

My point is that you shouldn’t rely on Twitter stories to decide what is a typical situation for someone who gets this virus. What is typical depends on your age and whether you have underlying health issues.

I agree with you, it’s a risk. But, adults can make their own decisions as to what risks to take. For the average, healthy adult, completely locking yourself away from other people isn’t really needed.

Yes, “locking yourself away” actually is needed for those able to do it for the greater good. It’s not just about your personal risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like the concept of sacrificing for the greater good is separating the faux-liberals from the true liberals. If you cannot social-distance for the greater good for a few weeks, you are not a liberal.

Don’t dislocate your shoulder patting yourself on the back.

Why not? Why not pat yourself on the back for doing something that clearly you can’t do?

My family and I are following all of the current recommendations regarding social distancing for people living in DC. If you want to do more in order to get that self-satisfied glow, knock yourself out.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, my good God. The level of overreaction and hysteria on this board is out of control. We are not under a national quarantine. We’ve been asked to limit gatherings to 10 people or less. Yes, this is serious but some of you people need to take your anti-anxiety meds and stay away from DCUM for a while.

Yes, I’ve heard of people who haven’t left their houses for two weeks now. And this board is a feedback loop increasing the posters’ anxiety.

Take reasonable precautions, sure, but don’t bury yourself in fear. This virus isn’t a risk for your children, and if you’re a healthy adult, it’s not much of a threat to you, either. The average age of people who have died of this in Italy is almost 80.

We’re taking our kids to play with their cousins this afternoon. Life goes on.

I am in the Midwest now, and this is how many people are going about life.

Cutting way down on social interaction, but not cutting it off. I am not breaking any laws and am following the 6 feet rule. I am still walking with friends, getting my teen out once a day to a store so he can move around, etc.

You need to get on Twitter to hear the stories of people struggling with Coronavirus. Just because people aren't dying doesn't mean it's a cakewalk. I've seen fainting, hallucinations, panicked calls with 104 degree fever, etc.

No, I don't get my NEWS from Twitter.

My son is disabled and has high anxiety. It is freezing in the Midwest so we can't just go outside. Getting him out of the house is important to not have his stimming go out of control.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You need to get on Twitter to hear the stories of people struggling with Coronavirus. Just because people aren't dying doesn't mean it's a cakewalk. I've seen fainting, hallucinations, panicked calls with 104 degree fever, etc.

You really shouldn’t rely on Twitter for medical information.

And the people who are posting the worst stories are very self-selecting.The large majority of infected people who have mild to moderate symptoms aren’t posting, because there’s nothing interesting about their story.

WTF - how is reading stories relying on Twitter for medical information. Yeah, I'm sure they're self selecting because they want to get out information that is not being otherwise reported and to warn people that it's not necessarily easy if you get it. Why should those stories not be as believable as the folks who say they are asymptomatic? They're all over Twitter too. Do you only want to hear those stories to help you justify letting your kids hang out with friends all day. It's a gamble, that's what the stories on both sides prove. Some are clearly more willing to take it, while others are not.

My point is that you shouldn’t rely on Twitter stories to decide what is a typical situation for someone who gets this virus. What is typical depends on your age and whether you have underlying health issues.

I agree with you, it’s a risk. But, adults can make their own decisions as to what risks to take. For the average, healthy adult, completely locking yourself away from other people isn’t really needed.

It's clear you haven't read any of these stories. PLENTY have stated they didn't otherwise have immune problems.

New C.D.C. data shows that nearly 40 percent of patients sick enough to be hospitalized were age 20 to 54:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/health/coronavirus-young-people.html

45 yo not able to breath on own. He's "never ever sick":
https://nypost.com/2020/03/16/louisiana-man-hospitalized-with-coronavirus-after-flu-misdiagnosis/

Vanderbilt U student with Coronavirus says he "has multiple friends in the hospital." (Do you really want to suggest he has that many immunocompromised friends):
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-vanderbilt-university-students-test-positive-social-distancing/?ftag=CNM-00-10aac3a

Several young people on this Twitter thread they are having horrible symptoms and aren't immunocompromised. One person suggests "mild" means "anyone not on a ventilator":
https://twitter.com/bradleyziffer/status/1240676575168921600

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You need to get on Twitter to hear the stories of people struggling with Coronavirus. Just because people aren't dying doesn't mean it's a cakewalk. I've seen fainting, hallucinations, panicked calls with 104 degree fever, etc.

You really shouldn’t rely on Twitter for medical information.

And the people who are posting the worst stories are very self-selecting.The large majority of infected people who have mild to moderate symptoms aren’t posting, because there’s nothing interesting about their story.

WTF - how is reading stories relying on Twitter for medical information. Yeah, I'm sure they're self selecting because they want to get out information that is not being otherwise reported and to warn people that it's not necessarily easy if you get it. Why should those stories not be as believable as the folks who say they are asymptomatic? They're all over Twitter too. Do you only want to hear those stories to help you justify letting your kids hang out with friends all day. It's a gamble, that's what the stories on both sides prove. Some are clearly more willing to take it, while others are not.

My point is that you shouldn’t rely on Twitter stories to decide what is a typical situation for someone who gets this virus. What is typical depends on your age and whether you have underlying health issues.

I agree with you, it’s a risk. But, adults can make their own decisions as to what risks to take. For the average, healthy adult, completely locking yourself away from other people isn’t really needed.

It's clear you haven't read any of these stories. PLENTY have stated they didn't otherwise have immune problems.

New C.D.C. data shows that nearly 40 percent of patients sick enough to be hospitalized were age 20 to 54:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/health/coronavirus-young-people.html

45 yo not able to breath on own. He's "never ever sick":
https://nypost.com/2020/03/16/louisiana-man-hospitalized-with-coronavirus-after-flu-misdiagnosis/

Vanderbilt U student with Coronavirus says he "has multiple friends in the hospital." (Do you really want to suggest he has that many immunocompromised friends):
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-vanderbilt-university-students-test-positive-social-distancing/?ftag=CNM-00-10aac3a

Several young people on this Twitter thread they are having horrible symptoms and aren't immunocompromised. One person suggests "mild" means "anyone not on a ventilator":
https://twitter.com/bradleyziffer/status/1240676575168921600

Data is not the plural of anecdote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know plenty of people allowing a best friend over that’s not prohibited and if both families are limiting grocery store trips etc. driving in the car to the same other house isn’t a big deal at all.

Yep. DCUM is a microcosm that isn't in any way representative of the population at large, even in the DMV. This is pretty much what most normal, average folks are doing at this point.

Sure, the more vocal people aren’t really representative of society as a whole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No. You need to make hard choices and sacrifices for the greater good. You also need to protect your children.

I’m proud that my family is making the harder choice to social distance. Some people don’t have the option to do the right thing (health care aides in nursing homes with families at home; nurses, doctors, hospital staffs; grocery store workers, mail carriers, cops...) Those of us who have the option should stay home and away from other people because essential workers can’t. It’s the only way to flatten the curve.

No hysteria here. Just social responsibility.

Thank you for this post - signed, spouse of an ER doctor

[Anonymous]

I sent my teen on a walk with her best friend. They maintained distance. Don't let them sit inside together, no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You need to get on Twitter to hear the stories of people struggling with Coronavirus. Just because people aren't dying doesn't mean it's a cakewalk. I've seen fainting, hallucinations, panicked calls with 104 degree fever, etc.

You really shouldn’t rely on Twitter for medical information.

And the people who are posting the worst stories are very self-selecting.The large majority of infected people who have mild to moderate symptoms aren’t posting, because there’s nothing interesting about their story.

WTF - how is reading stories relying on Twitter for medical information. Yeah, I'm sure they're self selecting because they want to get out information that is not being otherwise reported and to warn people that it's not necessarily easy if you get it. Why should those stories not be as believable as the folks who say they are asymptomatic? They're all over Twitter too. Do you only want to hear those stories to help you justify letting your kids hang out with friends all day. It's a gamble, that's what the stories on both sides prove. Some are clearly more willing to take it, while others are not.

My point is that you shouldn’t rely on Twitter stories to decide what is a typical situation for someone who gets this virus. What is typical depends on your age and whether you have underlying health issues.

I agree with you, it’s a risk. But, adults can make their own decisions as to what risks to take. For the average, healthy adult, completely locking yourself away from other people isn’t really needed.

Yes, “locking yourself away” actually is needed for those able to do it for the greater good. It’s not just about your personal risk.

This is the point. You, a healthy adult, could contract Coronavirus and *never* show symptoms (or have very mild symptoms) but still be infectious. So as you go about life, letting your kid have friends over, you are spreading disease. and then they spread it. And so on.

This is not about personal risk tolerance. It’s about communal responsibility.

[Anonymous]

It seems like there are two camps on this thread:

People who are following all current recommendations and laws currently in place in their respective jurisdictions.

People who want to scold the first group into engaging in some more stringent social distancing behavior, based solely on their own personal opinions.

I live in DC, and the current recommendations allow socializing in small groups. Talk to the Mayor if you want that to change.