Will MU make it past this spring?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ECNL only allowed two teams in NOVA 4 years ago. They have now doubled that to four. In fact, there are more ECNLs than the DAs in NOVA. That's the bigger problem.

LOL, ECNL went from 2 to 4, and DA went from 0 to 3. Which one is a bigger problem? The context of this thread is MU, and they are the only newcomer. Last one in, first one out.

I'm trying to follow the logic here and what it is that people want.

On the one hand Metro is so bad that they cant compete at teh DA level. This would imply that they lack the talent to compete. And then in the same breath, Metro is the main cause of talent dilution among the DA and ECNL clubs in NOVA.

SO if Metro folds, as many of you seem to be hoping for, exactly what is the direct benefit to the other ECNL or DA clubs? How can a club, with no talent, as many of you imply help concentrate talent within the elite soccer clubs when they don't have elite talent to begin with?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ECNL only allowed two teams in NOVA 4 years ago. They have now doubled that to four. In fact, there are more ECNLs than the DAs in NOVA. That's the bigger problem.

LOL, ECNL went from 2 to 4, and DA went from 0 to 3. Which one is a bigger problem? The context of this thread is MU, and they are the only newcomer. Last one in, first one out.

I'm trying to follow the logic here and what it is that people want.

On the one hand Metro is so bad that they cant compete at teh DA level. This would imply that they lack the talent to compete. And then in the same breath, Metro is the main cause of talent dilution among the DA and ECNL clubs in NOVA.

SO if Metro folds, as many of you seem to be hoping for, exactly what is the direct benefit to the other ECNL or DA clubs? How can a club, with no talent, as many of you imply help concentrate talent within the elite soccer clubs when they don't have elite talent to begin with?

They do have a handful of good players which would improve whatever team they went to immediately. And going forward, they are likely to improve (can't get much worse) which will dilute future U13 and up groups.

[Anonymous]

And just for point of comparison.

Loudoun 06 ECNL are in 8th place out of 11 with 2 wins and McLean are in 10th place with zero wins and one tie.

Loudoun has a -3 goal differential and McLean has a -33 differential.

BRYC site in the middle with a 5-4 record.

VDA sits atop the standings with a 7-0-1 record.

Arlington DA is 4-1-2
FCV DA is 7-1-1

So with ECNL NOVA has 4 clubs represented and 3 are in the bottom half of the standings but Metro United and DA is what caused the dilution?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ECNL only allowed two teams in NOVA 4 years ago. They have now doubled that to four. In fact, there are more ECNLs than the DAs in NOVA. That's the bigger problem.

LOL, ECNL went from 2 to 4, and DA went from 0 to 3. Which one is a bigger problem? The context of this thread is MU, and they are the only newcomer. Last one in, first one out.

That is a moot point. The DA isn't going anywhere. And why double the ECNL size last year? What value did it truly add? None. MU isn't going anywhere. Get used to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ECNL only allowed two teams in NOVA 4 years ago. They have now doubled that to four. In fact, there are more ECNLs than the DAs in NOVA. That's the bigger problem.

LOL, ECNL went from 2 to 4, and DA went from 0 to 3. Which one is a bigger problem? The context of this thread is MU, and they are the only newcomer. Last one in, first one out.

I'm trying to follow the logic here and what it is that people want.

On the one hand Metro is so bad that they cant compete at teh DA level. This would imply that they lack the talent to compete. And then in the same breath, Metro is the main cause of talent dilution among the DA and ECNL clubs in NOVA.

SO if Metro folds, as many of you seem to be hoping for, exactly what is the direct benefit to the other ECNL or DA clubs? How can a club, with no talent, as many of you imply help concentrate talent within the elite soccer clubs when they don't have elite talent to begin with?

Exactly, but people have been against MU from the start. For some reason, it threatens them. What is funny is how some of these clubs still have such large rosters. It's so diluted, we are impacting the quality of their rosters , but they still put 20 on a roster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ECNL only allowed two teams in NOVA 4 years ago. They have now doubled that to four. In fact, there are more ECNLs than the DAs in NOVA. That's the bigger problem.

LOL, ECNL went from 2 to 4, and DA went from 0 to 3. Which one is a bigger problem? The context of this thread is MU, and they are the only newcomer. Last one in, first one out.

I'm trying to follow the logic here and what it is that people want.

On the one hand Metro is so bad that they cant compete at teh DA level. This would imply that they lack the talent to compete. And then in the same breath, Metro is the main cause of talent dilution among the DA and ECNL clubs in NOVA.

SO if Metro folds, as many of you seem to be hoping for, exactly what is the direct benefit to the other ECNL or DA clubs? How can a club, with no talent, as many of you imply help concentrate talent within the elite soccer clubs when they don't have elite talent to begin with?

Exactly, but people have been against MU from the start. For some reason, it threatens them. What is funny is how some of these clubs still have such large rosters. It's so diluted, we are impacting the quality of their rosters , but they still put 20 on a roster.

Good point.

[Anonymous]

I really don’t see how US Soccer doesn’t come along and shut MU down-maybe they will allow one more year of existence since they were “rebranded” this year-but just how many years in a row can this be allowed to continue? Particularly when Arlington and FCV field strong and competitive teams in every age group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really don’t see how US Soccer doesn’t come along and shut MU down-maybe they will allow one more year of existence since they were “rebranded” this year-but just how many years in a row can this be allowed to continue? Particularly when Arlington and FCV field strong and competitive teams in every age group.

And I don't see how ECNL doesn't come along and shut down Loudoun either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really don’t see how US Soccer doesn’t come along and shut MU down-maybe they will allow one more year of existence since they were “rebranded” this year-but just how many years in a row can this be allowed to continue? Particularly when Arlington and FCV field strong and competitive teams in every age group.

Not going to happen. MU is not last in standings at any age group, unlike Arlington. MU beat Arlington at 2 of the 4 age groups that played this fall. So they are fielding competitive teams at some age groups.

[Anonymous]

Loudoun ECNL has played 78 games and won 22 of them.

1/3 of their club ECNL wins is thanks to the 07 team.

But, again, MU is to blaim for dilution. The biggest soccer club in Virginia has a losing record in ECNL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don’t see how US Soccer doesn’t come along and shut MU down-maybe they will allow one more year of existence since they were “rebranded” this year-but just how many years in a row can this be allowed to continue? Particularly when Arlington and FCV field strong and competitive teams in every age group.

Not going to happen. MU is not last in standings at any age group, unlike Arlington. MU beat Arlington at 2 of the 4 age groups that played this fall. So they are fielding competitive teams at some age groups.

Well now that's something to crow about. We're not last! Add some more polish, and maybe in a few years, you'll be mediocre.

[Anonymous]

This is a conversation about MU and if the Development Academy Will give it another year. Every DA club is evaluated at the end of the season. No other club has anything to do with MU and the factors that will be considered in the DA’s decision in April/May

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Loudoun ECNL has played 78 games and won 22 of them.

1/3 of their club ECNL wins is thanks to the 07 team.

But, again, MU is to blaim for dilution. The biggest soccer club in Virginia has a losing record in ECNL.

Loudoun 07 is their first team that had a defined path to stay within the club for higher level (ECNL, DA) soccer. Previously, the top players left Loudoun and went to FCV, McLean etc. When Loudoun got ECNL, they essentially took their top teams at the older age groups (which were essentially "B" teams since the elite talent left) and made them their ECNL teams. Of course they would struggle. The real evaluation on how Loudoun will fare long-term rests with the 07s, 08s, 09s, etc. as they progress through ECNL. Sounds like the 07s are doing just fine, and only time will tell on the younger groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a conversation about MU and if the Development Academy Will give it another year. Every DA club is evaluated at the end of the season. No other club has anything to do with MU and the factors that will be considered in the DA’s decision in April/May

Other than one age group, overall MU has improved in several areas. Box scores have generally tightened across the board. Other areas like expanding affiliate clubs in unrepresented geographic areas for DA are more intangible and will simply take time to determine their value. 06 and 07 will continue to be trouble spots moving forward and it is hard to know how that will affect the 08 age group.

I fail to see how rooting for the club to fail is beneficial overall considering the general disdain this thread seems to have against Metro and its talent. It is still a odd thing to claim the club has no talent and then claim how much more concentrated and better the remaining DA and ECNL clubs would be if Metro kids went elsewhere.

How many difference makers does one believe each Metro team has to improve remaining clubs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don’t see how US Soccer doesn’t come along and shut MU down-maybe they will allow one more year of existence since they were “rebranded” this year-but just how many years in a row can this be allowed to continue? Particularly when Arlington and FCV field strong and competitive teams in every age group.

Not going to happen. MU is not last in standings at any age group, unlike Arlington. MU beat Arlington at 2 of the 4 age groups that played this fall. So they are fielding competitive teams at some age groups.

Well now that's something to crow about. We're not last! Add some more polish, and maybe in a few years, you'll be mediocre.

Sure. Let's keep it real. Two of the MU teams that will "someday be mediocre" beat Arlington that is "strong and competitive at every age group". Your words.