Inside the Cell Where a Sick 16-Year-Old Boy Died in Border Patrol Care

[Anonymous]

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Most of the immigrants who come to US are not properly vaccinated. What is the difference between the death of this kid or any person in US who is against vaccinating their children? They are at the higher risk of death. It is a natural consequence of not having a proper vaccination.


Well for one this child died alone on a cold hard floor, without even a pillow or blanket or glass of water to ease his pain.

Next question?


I can probably find 10 kids who died like that in the US. Let’s help them first.

I worked in a juvenile detention facility. I would sort of equate that to "like that" since it's also a place with adults who have custody and take responsibility for minor children who have committed illegal acts. Nobody died "like that". Nobody died period. That kid would have been at a hospital receiving care in such a situation. We even took kids to the dentist. Because, you know, they ARE KIDS and you are their caretaker (acting as the parent). They are not adults. This child was in the custody of the US government (us). We are responsible for his death. I wonder if you know the difference between a child and an adult.

And when you have an overcrowded facility filled with people who come here illegally, often already ill, this type of thing unfortunately happens. If you are truly outraged by this situation, I would suggest you take up efforts to stop illegal immigration altogether.

“Unfortunately”

This is America. You’re saying we aren’t capable of showing human empathy or making sure conditions aren’t cruel where people are locked up?

I’m saying that in an overcrowded detention facility, there are limited resources and things like this will happen.

OFGS. A child is seriously sick and lying on the floor and no one even stooped to comfort him, much less start the process of transferring him to a hospital. That’s negligence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the immigrants who come to US are not properly vaccinated. What is the difference between the death of this kid or any person in US who is against vaccinating their children? They are at the higher risk of death. It is a natural consequence of not having a proper vaccination.

Well for one this child died alone on a cold hard floor, without even a pillow or blanket or glass of water to ease his pain.

Next question?

I can probably find 10 kids who died like that in the US. Let’s help them first.

They’re dead, Joe. Can’t help them after the fact.

But we can prevent such deaths from happening in the future. Do you understand that? Or are you suggesting we let migrant children die alone on floors of a cell?

Why is it a choice between those two things? How about we do both? You’re saying the US is incapable of that?

I say we focus our resources on American citizens in inner cities and rural areas firs

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the immigrants who come to US are not properly vaccinated. What is the difference between the death of this kid or any person in US who is against vaccinating their children? They are at the higher risk of death. It is a natural consequence of not having a proper vaccination.

Well for one this child died alone on a cold hard floor, without even a pillow or blanket or glass of water to ease his pain.

Next question?

I can probably find 10 kids who died like that in the US. Let’s help them first.

They’re dead, Joe. Can’t help them after the fact.

But we can prevent such deaths from happening in the future. Do you understand that? Or are you suggesting we let migrant children die alone on floors of a cell?

I say we focus our resources on American citizens in inner cities and rural areas firs

Why is it a choice between those two things? How about we do both? You’re saying the US is incapable of that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of the immigrants who come to US are not properly vaccinated. What is the difference between the death of this kid or any person in US who is against vaccinating their children? They are at the higher risk of death. It is a natural consequence of not having a proper vaccination.

Well for one this child died alone on a cold hard floor, without even a pillow or blanket or glass of water to ease his pain.

Next question?

I can probably find 10 kids who died like that in the US. Let’s help them first.

They’re dead, Joe. Can’t help them after the fact.

But we can prevent such deaths from happening in the future. Do you understand that? Or are you suggesting we let migrant children die alone on floors of a cell?

I say we focus our resources on American citizens in inner cities and rural areas firs

Why are they more deserving, simply due to chance of birth? It’s not the boy’s fault where he was born. Anymore than the US poor get credit for being American. It’s luck.

[Anonymous]

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the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA was made from immigrants.

ANYONE on this thread who supports the CBP or tries to excuse the death of this boy are monsters.

MONSTERS.

This is a lie that is commonly told. The United States was colonized and settled like most other places.

CPB is doing a great job, especially when dealing with what they have to deal with

Like what other places? Please name the places that were colonized just like that, that are not North and South America, Australia and New Zealand. Which other ones were colonized and settled?

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There will be more deaths just like this. Flu season has just started and the Trump administration is refusing to vaccinate detained children. Flu vaccine campaigns are about the easiest, most cost effective intervention to prevent outbreaks. Why won't they do it? The vaccine is cheaper than hospitalization and it would protect the workers as well. I really can't come up with a reasonable explanation for why they won't vaccinate. They must just truly hate these people. They're ok with children dying as long as they are foreign and brown.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of the immigrants who come to US are not properly vaccinated. What is the difference between the death of this kid or any person in US who is against vaccinating their children? They are at the higher risk of death. It is a natural consequence of not having a proper vaccination.

Well for one this child died alone on a cold hard floor, without even a pillow or blanket or glass of water to ease his pain.

Next question?

I can probably find 10 kids who died like that in the US. Let’s help them first.

They’re dead, Joe. Can’t help them after the fact.

But we can prevent such deaths from happening in the future. Do you understand that? Or are you suggesting we let migrant children die alone on floors of a cell?

I say we focus our resources on American citizens in inner cities and rural areas firs

Why is it a choice between those two things? How about we do both? You’re saying the US is incapable of that?

Seems to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of the immigrants who come to US are not properly vaccinated. What is the difference between the death of this kid or any person in US who is against vaccinating their children? They are at the higher risk of death. It is a natural consequence of not having a proper vaccination.

Well for one this child died alone on a cold hard floor, without even a pillow or blanket or glass of water to ease his pain.

Next question?

I can probably find 10 kids who died like that in the US. Let’s help them first.

They’re dead, Joe. Can’t help them after the fact.

But we can prevent such deaths from happening in the future. Do you understand that? Or are you suggesting we let migrant children die alone on floors of a cell?

I say we focus our resources on American citizens in inner cities and rural areas firs

Why are they more deserving, simply due to chance of birth? It’s not the boy’s fault where he was born. Anymore than the US poor get credit for being American. It’s luck.

Because it’s our money and it should be spent on our citizens first. You can feel free, though, to offer up your own resources to help kids on the border’

[Anonymous]

Ok

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of the immigrants who come to US are not properly vaccinated. What is the difference between the death of this kid or any person in US who is against vaccinating their children? They are at the higher risk of death. It is a natural consequence of not having a proper vaccination.

Well for one this child died alone on a cold hard floor, without even a pillow or blanket or glass of water to ease his pain.

Next question?

There are a lot of gangbangers in Chicago dying along on the cold hard pavement in the middle of the street. Are you outraged?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of the immigrants who come to US are not properly vaccinated. What is the difference between the death of this kid or any person in US who is against vaccinating their children? They are at the higher risk of death. It is a natural consequence of not having a proper vaccination.

Well for one this child died alone on a cold hard floor, without even a pillow or blanket or glass of water to ease his pain.

Next question?

There are a lot of gangbangers in Chicago dying along on the cold hard pavement in the middle of the street. Are you outraged?

Why yes, that is awful too and we should be working to bring an end to this. Too. Also. More than one thing at once. Concern for one situation does not negate concern for other situations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Most of the immigrants who come to US are not properly vaccinated. What is the difference between the death of this kid or any person in US who is against vaccinating their children? They are at the higher risk of death. It is a natural consequence of not having a proper vaccination.


Well for one this child died alone on a cold hard floor, without even a pillow or blanket or glass of water to ease his pain.

Next question?


There are a lot of gangbangers in Chicago dying along on the cold hard pavement in the middle of the street. Are you outraged?

Were they in the custody of the US government when they got killed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Most of the immigrants who come to US are not properly vaccinated. What is the difference between the death of this kid or any person in US who is against vaccinating their children? They are at the higher risk of death. It is a natural consequence of not having a proper vaccination.


Well for one this child died alone on a cold hard floor, without even a pillow or blanket or glass of water to ease his pain.

Next question?


There are a lot of gangbangers in Chicago dying along on the cold hard pavement in the middle of the street. Are you outraged?

Were they in the custody of the US government when they got killed?

Dunno. But, if they violated multiple state and federal laws with the expectation they'd be taken care of despite their choices it might come in to play.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-the-cell-where-a-sick-16-year-old-boy-died-in-border-patrol-care

Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, a 16-year-old Guatemalan migrant, was seriously ill when immigration agents put him in a small South Texas holding cell with another sick boy on the afternoon of May 19.

A few hours earlier, a nurse practitioner at the Border Patrol’s dangerously overcrowded processing center in McAllen had diagnosed him with the flu and measured his fever at 103 degrees. She said that he should be checked again in two hours and taken to the emergency room if his condition worsened.

None of that happened. Worried that Carlos might infect other migrants in the teeming McAllen facility, officials moved him to a cell for quarantine at a Border Patrol station in nearby Weslaco.

By the next morning, he was dead.

In a press release that day, Customs and Border Protection’s acting commissioner at the time, John Sanders, called Carlos’ death a “tragic loss.” The agency said that an agent had found Carlos “unresponsive” after checking in on him. Sanders said the Border Patrol was “committed to the health, safety and humane treatment of those in our custody.”

But the record shows that the Border Patrol fell far short of that standard with Carlos. ProPublica has obtained video that documents the 16-year-old’s last hours, and it shows that Border Patrol agents and health care workers at the Weslaco holding facility missed increasingly obvious signs that his condition was perilous.

The cellblock video shows Carlos writhing for at least 25 minutes on the floor and a concrete bench. It shows him staggering to the toilet and collapsing on the floor, where he remained in the same position for the next four and a half hours.

This is beyond sad. A 16 year old dies in American custody locked in concrete cell while suffering from flue. And our twitter feed is clogged with how Trump's son was "attacked" from a an example where his name was used. I am feeling truly sick!

it is so sad to see any child die, even a criminal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of the immigrants who come to US are not properly vaccinated. What is the difference between the death of this kid or any person in US who is against vaccinating their children? They are at the higher risk of death. It is a natural consequence of not having a proper vaccination.

Well for one this child died alone on a cold hard floor, without even a pillow or blanket or glass of water to ease his pain.

Next question?

There are a lot of gangbangers in Chicago dying along on the cold hard pavement in the middle of the street. Are you outraged?

Yes the gun violence in this country is outrageous.

I’m sorry you lost your humanity somewhere in the past. Can’t imagine going through life without it.