Nearly all of the travel sports obsessed kids who were “recruited” for college seem to quit?

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Anonymous wrote:Who is the “them” you are referring to?

Back in the day I was a recruited swimmer at a Div III SLAC. I quit after sophomore year because my shoulder blew out. 16 years of the sport took its toll.

I have a feeling, though, that the percentage of students who decide not to continue with their sport is roughly the same as the number who quit orchestra, band or theatre.

This isn't uncommon. Lots of overuse injuries show up in college--saw it happen to a lot of cross country runners and gymnasts.

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Does anyone posting know any students who were recruited to work on a Wall Street firm because of their college sports experience? PP tell me what you mean when you reference Wall Street and sales?

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Anonymous wrote:I’d rather my sporty kids attend namebrand UVA or UMD and play club or intramural sports, than some backwater no name school that only exists to exploit travel-sports obsessed parents. I’m convinced these schools would be insolvent were they not able to convince hundreds of gullible parents each year they are “recruiting” their student-athlete child.

This is what I've seen and don't understand. Why do parents go along with this?

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Does anyone posting know any students who were recruited to work on a Wall Street firm because of their college sports experience? PP tell me what you mean when you reference Wall Street and sales?

Used to be lacrosse/Wall Street pipeline. Not sure it still exists. From 2009: https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB124278087620937367

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Anonymous wrote:I’d rather my sporty kids attend namebrand UVA or UMD and play club or intramural sports, than some backwater no name school that only exists to exploit travel-sports obsessed parents. I’m convinced these schools would be insolvent were they not able to convince hundreds of gullible parents each year they are “recruiting” their student-athlete child.

This is what I've seen and don't understand. Why do parents go along with this?

Do you have evidence that these presumably not very academically oriented kids of gullible parents have much of a shot at getting accepted to UVA or UMD? It doesn’t seem very likely.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d rather my sporty kids attend namebrand UVA or UMD and play club or intramural sports, than some backwater no name school that only exists to exploit travel-sports obsessed parents. I’m convinced these schools would be insolvent were they not able to convince hundreds of gullible parents each year they are “recruiting” their student-athlete child.

This is what I've seen and don't understand. Why do parents go along with this?

Do you have evidence that these presumably not very academically oriented kids of gullible parents have much of a shot at getting accepted to UVA or UMD? It doesn’t seem very likely.

Not pp but I knew kids who got in to better schools but went to no names to play their sport. Only one graduated at all.

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Anonymous wrote:33% of D1 athletes quit their sport, 50% of those are due to injury.

It very hard to make it through all 4 years ... injury, time commitment, playing time, etc.

That is why athletes are highly recruited to jobs ... it's hard and they are in a very small percentage of the population who can actually do it.

I do find it odd, though. When the chance of being an athlete is so low, and then the chance of making it 4 years is only 66%.. that I know a ton of athletes that did it and did it at highly academic schools.

I'm calling bs on this. My husband and I both worked in recruiting for technical jobs for years. At no point was anyone ever considered because of the sport they played in high school or college. I also think the poster who mentioned special recruiting for college athletes is not being entirely honest. If there is special recruiting it is because the college is worried the athletes don't have enough to get jobs.

And you are assuming that every industry works exactly the same way? Regardless of any one family’s personal experience, there are a lot of kids who are recruited in part due to their athletics. The ones I know all had an easy path into finance, sales, or other business-oriented fields. The percentages of female CEOs who played college sports are really eye-opening.

Uh huh. Sales at Best Buy. Do high school coaches get some kind of kick back for having kids signed at colleges?

I was referencing CEOs of large companies, like the people mentioned here: https://www.inc.com/rebecca-hinds/the-1-trait-94-percent-of-c-suite-women-share-and-how-to-get-it.html . Why are you so prejudiced against athletes, if you don’t mind sharing?

I'm prejudiced against parents who don't do what is best for their kids. I have multiple kids all involved in sports and most of the parents I encountered were certain their kid would be a pro at whatever sport until the kid hit high school. Reality hit a good percentage of those parents in the face at the high school level. The high school stars I know have not gone on to succeed at college and none have gone pro. I know the families of several kids who've gotten great scholarships at d1 schools and I've seen what happens to those kids.

DP. Stop making things up. What you claim to know personally is so statistically improbable that it's obvious you are lying to anyone who can do basic probabilistic math.

You are delusional. The vast majority of kids who do sports get no benefit re career recruiting. Are you a coach?

You made the same “delusional” comment on page 2. Do you think all coaches are delusional? And do you have a link for the proposition that college sports almost never help with career recruiting?

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So yea... your kid is not good enough that is a bummer. Stevenson and Sydney Hampton are good schools for the right kid, I would not be so snobby about it. It's not good for your child.. that is fine, but you dont' have to diss other colleges.

Financial aid never means loans to a D1 coach, they hope you are poor and will get financial aid so they can save their scholarship money. Most D1 athletes have you submit FASFA, has financial look at it to determine what type of money you need.

BTW, if you have financial aid and then get a scholarship many schools take away the FA. So if you get offered 10K in FA, then 15K in scholarship $$... that might not be 25K, it might be 15K. So make sure your coach knows if you are on FA, they don't always know how much you finally got.

First -- sorry if it came across at "dissing" -- Stevenson and Hampton-Sydney are indeed good schools for the right kid. Stevenson actually does have a program that would work for S20, but any FA/Scholarship $ would be off-set by OOS costs for us so it's definitely not at the top of the list.

You bring up a very good point RE FA v. Scholarship $$. Unfortunately, S20 will not qualify for much if any FA - even though we will not be able to go Full Pay without some loans. The whole "Financial Aid Package" world is unfamiliar waters for us. We are hoping for some Merit Aid and Scholarships hopefully. Are you saying that they would take away Merit Aid if he gets outside scholarship funds?

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Anonymous wrote:I’d rather my sporty kids attend namebrand UVA or UMD and play club or intramural sports, than some backwater no name school that only exists to exploit travel-sports obsessed parents. I’m convinced these schools would be insolvent were they not able to convince hundreds of gullible parents each year they are “recruiting” their student-athlete child.

This is what I've seen and don't understand. Why do parents go along with this?

Do you have evidence that these presumably not very academically oriented kids of gullible parents have much of a shot at getting accepted to UVA or UMD? It doesn’t seem very likely.

Not pp but I knew kids who got in to better schools but went to no names to play their sport. Only one graduated at all.

88% of college athletes graduate so that is an outlier.

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So yea... your kid is not good enough that is a bummer. Stevenson and Sydney Hampton are good schools for the right kid, I would not be so snobby about it. It's not good for your child.. that is fine, but you dont' have to diss other colleges.

Financial aid never means loans to a D1 coach, they hope you are poor and will get financial aid so they can save their scholarship money. Most D1 athletes have you submit FASFA, has financial look at it to determine what type of money you need.

BTW, if you have financial aid and then get a scholarship many schools take away the FA. So if you get offered 10K in FA, then 15K in scholarship $$... that might not be 25K, it might be 15K. So make sure your coach knows if you are on FA, they don't always know how much you finally got.

First -- sorry if it came across at "dissing" -- Stevenson and Hampton-Sydney are indeed good schools for the right kid. Stevenson actually does have a program that would work for S20, but any FA/Scholarship $ would be off-set by OOS costs for us so it's definitely not at the top of the list.

You bring up a very good point RE FA v. Scholarship $$. Unfortunately, S20 will not qualify for much if any FA - even though we will not be able to go Full Pay without some loans. The whole "Financial Aid Package" world is unfamiliar waters for us. We are hoping for some Merit Aid and Scholarships hopefully. Are you saying that they would take away Merit Aid if he gets outside scholarship funds?

No. They do not take away Merit aid. But it comes as a surprise to many that FA goes away... you have to ask.... they find out they are getting $10K in FA then a college offers $15K in scholarship... $25K aid makes a $40K-$50K school pretty affordable but $15k not so much.

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I wonder how many incoming college freshman use their sport as a way to get into the school, get financial aid the first year, then drop it. I know someone who did this.

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I think a lot of the parents speaking up here are trying to give an alternate, maybe more realistic, view of what happens after the sport obsessed family's kids graduate from high school. I don't think the parents are jealous - they are more or less sending a warning.

The parents are going to be exposed to so much hype as their kids move through the years of travel teams and special teams.

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https://reformedsportsparent.com/

I love this website where top players and coaches discuss reality.

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Some kids enjoy it and do it as their choice. Mine does. We still save for college. Others parents push it for the scholarship when the kids like it, are good at it but wouldn't do it without the parents pushing it. I would think you'd be better off saving for college and giving you kid the choice if you can afford it.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d rather my sporty kids attend namebrand UVA or UMD and play club or intramural sports, than some backwater no name school that only exists to exploit travel-sports obsessed parents. I’m convinced these schools would be insolvent were they not able to convince hundreds of gullible parents each year they are “recruiting” their student-athlete child.

This is what I've seen and don't understand. Why do parents go along with this?

Maybe different people want different things? Mine wanted nothing to do with the big schools. Plays a sport at Hamilton. To you that’s just some backwater but she’s getting a fantastic education.