Nearly all of the travel sports obsessed kids who were “recruited” for college seem to quit?

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Anonymous wrote:33% of D1 athletes quit their sport, 50% of those are due to injury.

It very hard to make it through all 4 years ... injury, time commitment, playing time, etc.

That is why athletes are highly recruited to jobs ... it's hard and they are in a very small percentage of the population who can actually do it.

I do find it odd, though. When the chance of being an athlete is so low, and then the chance of making it 4 years is only 66%.. that I know a ton of athletes that did it and did it at highly academic schools.

I'm calling bs on this. My husband and I both worked in recruiting for technical jobs for years. At no point was anyone ever considered because of the sport they played in high school or college. I also think the poster who mentioned special recruiting for college athletes is not being entirely honest. If there is special recruiting it is because the college is worried the athletes don't have enough to get jobs.

And you are assuming that every industry works exactly the same way? Regardless of any one family’s personal experience, there are a lot of kids who are recruited in part due to their athletics. The ones I know all had an easy path into finance, sales, or other business-oriented fields. The percentages of female CEOs who played college sports are really eye-opening.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ No such thing as a sports scholarship at Division 2 and 3 regional public and podunk private colleges. And most of the student-athletes at D1s are on partial scholarships, if anything.

They do get scholarships but disguised as aid (either merit or need based).

I had a DIII coach recruiting me heavily for a sport. I had excellent grades, GPA, and test scores. He brought me and my parents in for a meeting with a financial aid representative to discuss packages that they could award me as merit aid. If I picked that school, the aid would have covered 100% of my tuition, room & board.

I ended up not choosing them but a teammate of mine did. We kept in touch and she said everyone on the team there was on a full ride or mostly full ride through aid. I declined going there because I wasn't 100% sure I wanted to keep playing the sport after HS. The years of practice took a toll on me and playing it felt more like a chore than something I wanted to do. Luckily, I had supportive parents who let me make the choice on my own and didn't push. I know it was hard on them to see me quit after everything they'd poured into helping make me so great at the sport.

I know a lot of student athletes quit after the first year to save face. They'd rather quit than get put on academic probation and benched. Also, at DIII schools, academic > athletics. The professors are much less apt to really work with you regarding missing work and tests. DI players get a lot of leeway in that area. Many leave the DIII school because they were only there to play a sport that's paying their way and they didn't really like the school to begin with, so once they end up riding the bench/not making a starting position, they're left with putting in all the work athletically at a place they didn't really want to be in the first place. I had more than a few teammates who left because of that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:33% of D1 athletes quit their sport, 50% of those are due to injury.

It very hard to make it through all 4 years ... injury, time commitment, playing time, etc.

That is why athletes are highly recruited to jobs ... it's hard and they are in a very small percentage of the population who can actually do it.

I do find it odd, though. When the chance of being an athlete is so low, and then the chance of making it 4 years is only 66%.. that I know a ton of athletes that did it and did it at highly academic schools.

I'm calling bs on this. My husband and I both worked in recruiting for technical jobs for years. At no point was anyone ever considered because of the sport they played in high school or college. I also think the poster who mentioned special recruiting for college athletes is not being entirely honest. If there is special recruiting it is because the college is worried the athletes don't have enough to get jobs.

And you are assuming that every industry works exactly the same way? Regardless of any one family’s personal experience, there are a lot of kids who are recruited in part due to their athletics. The ones I know all had an easy path into finance, sales, or other business-oriented fields. The percentages of female CEOs who played college sports are really eye-opening.

Uh huh. Sales at Best Buy. Do high school coaches get some kind of kick back for having kids signed at colleges?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:33% of D1 athletes quit their sport, 50% of those are due to injury.

It very hard to make it through all 4 years ... injury, time commitment, playing time, etc.

That is why athletes are highly recruited to jobs ... it's hard and they are in a very small percentage of the population who can actually do it.

I do find it odd, though. When the chance of being an athlete is so low, and then the chance of making it 4 years is only 66%.. that I know a ton of athletes that did it and did it at highly academic schools.

I'm calling bs on this. My husband and I both worked in recruiting for technical jobs for years. At no point was anyone ever considered because of the sport they played in high school or college. I also think the poster who mentioned special recruiting for college athletes is not being entirely honest. If there is special recruiting it is because the college is worried the athletes don't have enough to get jobs.

And you are assuming that every industry works exactly the same way? Regardless of any one family’s personal experience, there are a lot of kids who are recruited in part due to their athletics. The ones I know all had an easy path into finance, sales, or other business-oriented fields. The percentages of female CEOs who played college sports are really eye-opening.

Uh huh. Sales at Best Buy. Do high school coaches get some kind of kick back for having kids signed at colleges?

I was referencing CEOs of large companies, like the people mentioned here: https://www.inc.com/rebecca-hinds/the-1-trait-94-percent-of-c-suite-women-share-and-how-to-get-it.html . Why are you so prejudiced against athletes, if you don’t mind sharing?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ No such thing as a sports scholarship at Division 2 and 3 regional public and podunk private colleges. And most of the student-athletes at D1s are on partial scholarships, if anything.

They do get scholarships but disguised as aid (either merit or need based).

I had a DIII coach recruiting me heavily for a sport. I had excellent grades, GPA, and test scores. He brought me and my parents in for a meeting with a financial aid representative to discuss packages that they could award me as merit aid. If I picked that school, the aid would have covered 100% of my tuition, room & board.

I ended up not choosing them but a teammate of mine did. We kept in touch and she said everyone on the team there was on a full ride or mostly full ride through aid. I declined going there because I wasn't 100% sure I wanted to keep playing the sport after HS. The years of practice took a toll on me and playing it felt more like a chore than something I wanted to do. Luckily, I had supportive parents who let me make the choice on my own and didn't push. I know it was hard on them to see me quit after everything they'd poured into helping make me so great at the sport.

I know a lot of student athletes quit after the first year to save face. They'd rather quit than get put on academic probation and benched. Also, at DIII schools, academic > athletics. The professors are much less apt to really work with you regarding missing work and tests. DI players get a lot of leeway in that area. Many leave the DIII school because they were only there to play a sport that's paying their way and they didn't really like the school to begin with, so once they end up riding the bench/not making a starting position, they're left with putting in all the work athletically at a place they didn't really want to be in the first place. I had more than a few teammates who left because of that.

So much just not true or wildly atypical in this post. So full of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:33% of D1 athletes quit their sport, 50% of those are due to injury.

It very hard to make it through all 4 years ... injury, time commitment, playing time, etc.

That is why athletes are highly recruited to jobs ... it's hard and they are in a very small percentage of the population who can actually do it.

I do find it odd, though. When the chance of being an athlete is so low, and then the chance of making it 4 years is only 66%.. that I know a ton of athletes that did it and did it at highly academic schools.

I'm calling bs on this. My husband and I both worked in recruiting for technical jobs for years. At no point was anyone ever considered because of the sport they played in high school or college. I also think the poster who mentioned special recruiting for college athletes is not being entirely honest. If there is special recruiting it is because the college is worried the athletes don't have enough to get jobs.

Well you're missing the boat. You can google it, im not doing research for you. It's sad you don't even know your own job that well.

Google Athlete to Wall street, athlete recruited into STEM, why we hire student athletes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:33% of D1 athletes quit their sport, 50% of those are due to injury.

It very hard to make it through all 4 years ... injury, time commitment, playing time, etc.

That is why athletes are highly recruited to jobs ... it's hard and they are in a very small percentage of the population who can actually do it.

I do find it odd, though. When the chance of being an athlete is so low, and then the chance of making it 4 years is only 66%.. that I know a ton of athletes that did it and did it at highly academic schools.

I'm calling bs on this. My husband and I both worked in recruiting for technical jobs for years. At no point was anyone ever considered because of the sport they played in high school or college. I also think the poster who mentioned special recruiting for college athletes is not being entirely honest. If there is special recruiting it is because the college is worried the athletes don't have enough to get jobs.

And you are assuming that every industry works exactly the same way? Regardless of any one family’s personal experience, there are a lot of kids who are recruited in part due to their athletics. The ones I know all had an easy path into finance, sales, or other business-oriented fields. The percentages of female CEOs who played college sports are really eye-opening.

Uh huh. Sales at Best Buy. Do high school coaches get some kind of kick back for having kids signed at colleges?

Wow! The chip on your shoulder is amazing. Still jealous of the athletes from HS. Sad!

[Anonymous]

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It's great for the kids who otherwise wouldn't have gone to college. My problem is the kids who were academically strong enough to go to a much better school but ended up at a ridiculous school. What if a kid got in to JMU or VT with no hope of being on their sports team but instead went to Chowan College so they could be on that team?

+1

I am actually going through this right now with S20 who plays travel soccer and wants to "play soccer in college no matter what" and is trying very heard to be recruited. We have had to bring him down from the clouds a bit. He was approached by coach from Stevenson University -- I'd never heard of this college until then. S20 all excited until I clearly pointed out (a) it's OOS tuition, (b) D3 schools can only offer merit aid and (c) weak degree progam in S20's degree area of interest. He was also approached by Hampton-Sydney coach but that was an easy no because S20 doesn't want to go to all boys school

I have also cautioned him about coaches (even D1s) offering "financial aid" as that includes loans. To me, financial aid is merit, grants and scholarships. Loans are a last resort.

So yea... your kid is not good enough that is a bummer. Stevenson and Sydney Hampton are good schools for the right kid, I would not be so snobby about it. It's not good for your child.. that is fine, but you dont' have to diss other colleges.

Financial aid never means loans to a D1 coach, they hope you are poor and will get financial aid so they can save their scholarship money. Most D1 athletes have you submit FASFA, has financial look at it to determine what type of money you need.

BTW, if you have financial aid and then get a scholarship many schools take away the FA. So if you get offered 10K in FA, then 15K in scholarship $$... that might not be 25K, it might be 15K. So make sure your coach knows if you are on FA, they don't always know how much you finally got.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:33% of D1 athletes quit their sport, 50% of those are due to injury.

It very hard to make it through all 4 years ... injury, time commitment, playing time, etc.

That is why athletes are highly recruited to jobs ... it's hard and they are in a very small percentage of the population who can actually do it.

I do find it odd, though. When the chance of being an athlete is so low, and then the chance of making it 4 years is only 66%.. that I know a ton of athletes that did it and did it at highly academic schools.

I'm calling bs on this. My husband and I both worked in recruiting for technical jobs for years. At no point was anyone ever considered because of the sport they played in high school or college. I also think the poster who mentioned special recruiting for college athletes is not being entirely honest. If there is special recruiting it is because the college is worried the athletes don't have enough to get jobs.

And you are assuming that every industry works exactly the same way? Regardless of any one family’s personal experience, there are a lot of kids who are recruited in part due to their athletics. The ones I know all had an easy path into finance, sales, or other business-oriented fields. The percentages of female CEOs who played college sports are really eye-opening.

Uh huh. Sales at Best Buy. Do high school coaches get some kind of kick back for having kids signed at colleges?

I was referencing CEOs of large companies, like the people mentioned here: https://www.inc.com/rebecca-hinds/the-1-trait-94-percent-of-c-suite-women-share-and-how-to-get-it.html . Why are you so prejudiced against athletes, if you don’t mind sharing?

I'm prejudiced against parents who don't do what is best for their kids. I have multiple kids all involved in sports and most of the parents I encountered were certain their kid would be a pro at whatever sport until the kid hit high school. Reality hit a good percentage of those parents in the face at the high school level. The high school stars I know have not gone on to succeed at college and none have gone pro. I know the families of several kids who've gotten great scholarships at d1 schools and I've seen what happens to those kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I know several who got into top schools and quit, yes. But they stayed at the school, lived as a normal college student at a top school (which don’t give athletic money anyhow).

Very tiny % go to top colleges, vast majority go to regional publics and backwater privates they’d never entertain in the first place were it not for the sports racket. The child and parents’ ego must be so tied up in “getting an offer” they aren’t thinking rationally.

[Anonymous]

Do high school coaches get rewarded when their athletes sign with colleges?

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I’d rather my sporty kids attend namebrand UVA or UMD and play club or intramural sports, than some backwater no name school that only exists to exploit travel-sports obsessed parents. I’m convinced these schools would be insolvent were they not able to convince hundreds of gullible parents each year they are “recruiting” their student-athlete child.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:33% of D1 athletes quit their sport, 50% of those are due to injury.

It very hard to make it through all 4 years ... injury, time commitment, playing time, etc.

That is why athletes are highly recruited to jobs ... it's hard and they are in a very small percentage of the population who can actually do it.

I do find it odd, though. When the chance of being an athlete is so low, and then the chance of making it 4 years is only 66%.. that I know a ton of athletes that did it and did it at highly academic schools.

I'm calling bs on this. My husband and I both worked in recruiting for technical jobs for years. At no point was anyone ever considered because of the sport they played in high school or college. I also think the poster who mentioned special recruiting for college athletes is not being entirely honest. If there is special recruiting it is because the college is worried the athletes don't have enough to get jobs.

And you are assuming that every industry works exactly the same way? Regardless of any one family’s personal experience, there are a lot of kids who are recruited in part due to their athletics. The ones I know all had an easy path into finance, sales, or other business-oriented fields. The percentages of female CEOs who played college sports are really eye-opening.

Uh huh. Sales at Best Buy. Do high school coaches get some kind of kick back for having kids signed at colleges?

I was referencing CEOs of large companies, like the people mentioned here: https://www.inc.com/rebecca-hinds/the-1-trait-94-percent-of-c-suite-women-share-and-how-to-get-it.html . Why are you so prejudiced against athletes, if you don’t mind sharing?

I'm prejudiced against parents who don't do what is best for their kids. I have multiple kids all involved in sports and most of the parents I encountered were certain their kid would be a pro at whatever sport until the kid hit high school. Reality hit a good percentage of those parents in the face at the high school level. The high school stars I know have not gone on to succeed at college and none have gone pro. I know the families of several kids who've gotten great scholarships at d1 schools and I've seen what happens to those kids.

DP. Stop making things up. What you claim to know personally is so statistically improbable that it's obvious you are lying to anyone who can do basic probabilistic math.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:33% of D1 athletes quit their sport, 50% of those are due to injury.

It very hard to make it through all 4 years ... injury, time commitment, playing time, etc.

That is why athletes are highly recruited to jobs ... it's hard and they are in a very small percentage of the population who can actually do it.

I do find it odd, though. When the chance of being an athlete is so low, and then the chance of making it 4 years is only 66%.. that I know a ton of athletes that did it and did it at highly academic schools.

I'm calling bs on this. My husband and I both worked in recruiting for technical jobs for years. At no point was anyone ever considered because of the sport they played in high school or college. I also think the poster who mentioned special recruiting for college athletes is not being entirely honest. If there is special recruiting it is because the college is worried the athletes don't have enough to get jobs.

And you are assuming that every industry works exactly the same way? Regardless of any one family’s personal experience, there are a lot of kids who are recruited in part due to their athletics. The ones I know all had an easy path into finance, sales, or other business-oriented fields. The percentages of female CEOs who played college sports are really eye-opening.

Uh huh. Sales at Best Buy. Do high school coaches get some kind of kick back for having kids signed at colleges?

I was referencing CEOs of large companies, like the people mentioned here: https://www.inc.com/rebecca-hinds/the-1-trait-94-percent-of-c-suite-women-share-and-how-to-get-it.html . Why are you so prejudiced against athletes, if you don’t mind sharing?

I'm prejudiced against parents who don't do what is best for their kids. I have multiple kids all involved in sports and most of the parents I encountered were certain their kid would be a pro at whatever sport until the kid hit high school. Reality hit a good percentage of those parents in the face at the high school level. The high school stars I know have not gone on to succeed at college and none have gone pro. I know the families of several kids who've gotten great scholarships at d1 schools and I've seen what happens to those kids.

Thank you for responding. I can understand your perspective if you haven’t encountered any smart athletes or well-informed parents, but you must know your experience is not universal, right? There truly is a strong sports bro and sports gal pipeline to lucrative jobs in Wall Street, consulting and other industries even if you don’t see as many in tech or some other fields. It’s a well documented phenomenon as you can see from that article and many others. I also personally know many doctors who were former athletes. There are some definite links between the traits and ambition necessary to succeed in athletics and in other career fields.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:33% of D1 athletes quit their sport, 50% of those are due to injury.

It very hard to make it through all 4 years ... injury, time commitment, playing time, etc.

That is why athletes are highly recruited to jobs ... it's hard and they are in a very small percentage of the population who can actually do it.

I do find it odd, though. When the chance of being an athlete is so low, and then the chance of making it 4 years is only 66%.. that I know a ton of athletes that did it and did it at highly academic schools.

I'm calling bs on this. My husband and I both worked in recruiting for technical jobs for years. At no point was anyone ever considered because of the sport they played in high school or college. I also think the poster who mentioned special recruiting for college athletes is not being entirely honest. If there is special recruiting it is because the college is worried the athletes don't have enough to get jobs.

And you are assuming that every industry works exactly the same way? Regardless of any one family’s personal experience, there are a lot of kids who are recruited in part due to their athletics. The ones I know all had an easy path into finance, sales, or other business-oriented fields. The percentages of female CEOs who played college sports are really eye-opening.

Uh huh. Sales at Best Buy. Do high school coaches get some kind of kick back for having kids signed at colleges?

I was referencing CEOs of large companies, like the people mentioned here: https://www.inc.com/rebecca-hinds/the-1-trait-94-percent-of-c-suite-women-share-and-how-to-get-it.html . Why are you so prejudiced against athletes, if you don’t mind sharing?

I'm prejudiced against parents who don't do what is best for their kids. I have multiple kids all involved in sports and most of the parents I encountered were certain their kid would be a pro at whatever sport until the kid hit high school. Reality hit a good percentage of those parents in the face at the high school level. The high school stars I know have not gone on to succeed at college and none have gone pro. I know the families of several kids who've gotten great scholarships at d1 schools and I've seen what happens to those kids.

DP. Stop making things up. What you claim to know personally is so statistically improbable that it's obvious you are lying to anyone who can do basic probabilistic math.

You are delusional. The vast majority of kids who do sports get no benefit re career recruiting. Are you a coach?