Kudos to NY Times - Call to end legacy Admissions

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe how many people on this thread are defending legacy preferences. So much for pretending that this country is a meritocracy. Try to think beyond your own kids and grandchildren. The world would be a better place if we could think beyond our tiny insular family bubble

I think affirmative action, the recent admissions scandal, the anti-Asian discrimination, and athlete recruitment make it very clear that college admissions is far from a meritocracy. In this hunger games environment, every parent is grabbing whatever advantage they have.

This.

The US should learn from other countries how to run college admissions.

No. We don’t need to make things even more classed based and elitist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe how many people on this thread are defending legacy preferences. So much for pretending that this country is a meritocracy. Try to think beyond your own kids and grandchildren. The world would be a better place if we could think beyond our tiny insular family bubble

I think affirmative action, the recent admissions scandal, the anti-Asian discrimination, and athlete recruitment make it very clear that college admissions is far from a meritocracy. In this hunger games environment, every parent is grabbing whatever advantage they have.

Exactly!! Why wouldn't they?!! DS identified as Hispanic because of his Hispanic grandmother even though it never occurred to him to do so in the past. It is the way things are done now.

Legal?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe how many people on this thread are defending legacy preferences. So much for pretending that this country is a meritocracy. Try to think beyond your own kids and grandchildren. The world would be a better place if we could think beyond our tiny insular family bubble

I think affirmative action, the recent admissions scandal, the anti-Asian discrimination, and athlete recruitment make it very clear that college admissions is far from a meritocracy. In this hunger games environment, every parent is grabbing whatever advantage they have.

Exactly!! Why wouldn't they?!! DS identified as Hispanic because of his Hispanic grandmother even though it never occurred to him to do so in the past. It is the way things are done now.

Legal?

Of course it is legal. We have proof of her ethnicity with is 100% Hispanic. So he is 1/4 Hispanic. That qualifies. LOL

[Anonymous]

End all preferences... That is all...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe how many people on this thread are defending legacy preferences. So much for pretending that this country is a meritocracy. Try to think beyond your own kids and grandchildren. The world would be a better place if we could think beyond our tiny insular family bubble

I think affirmative action, the recent admissions scandal, the anti-Asian discrimination, and athlete recruitment make it very clear that college admissions is far from a meritocracy. In this hunger games environment, every parent is grabbing whatever advantage they have.

Exactly!! Why wouldn't they?!! DS identified as Hispanic because of his Hispanic grandmother even though it never occurred to him to do so in the past. It is the way things are done now.

Legal?

Of course it is legal. We have proof of her ethnicity with is 100% Hispanic. So he is 1/4 Hispanic. That qualifies. LOL

Huh. I missed that boat back in the day even though my grandmother, too, was Hispanic. Didn’t matter for my admission purposes, but I’d play the card now for sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:End all preferences... That is all...

End all racial preferences and legacy preferences.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe how many people on this thread are defending legacy preferences. So much for pretending that this country is a meritocracy. Try to think beyond your own kids and grandchildren. The world would be a better place if we could think beyond our tiny insular family bubble

I think affirmative action, the recent admissions scandal, the anti-Asian discrimination, and athlete recruitment make it very clear that college admissions is far from a meritocracy. In this hunger games environment, every parent is grabbing whatever advantage they have.

Exactly!! Why wouldn't they?!! DS identified as Hispanic because of his Hispanic grandmother even though it never occurred to him to do so in the past. It is the way things are done now.

Legal?

Of course it is legal. We have proof of her ethnicity with is 100% Hispanic. So he is 1/4 Hispanic. That qualifies. LOL

How can you prove it? Are colleges asking you for documentation? Did they ask Warren to prove she was "Native American". Many people claim ancestries based on deception passed down from forefathers. I guarantee you I can literally check off any box on app and no one will blink an eye.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe how many people on this thread are defending legacy preferences. So much for pretending that this country is a meritocracy. Try to think beyond your own kids and grandchildren. The world would be a better place if we could think beyond our tiny insular family bubble

I think affirmative action, the recent admissions scandal, the anti-Asian discrimination, and athlete recruitment make it very clear that college admissions is far from a meritocracy. In this hunger games environment, every parent is grabbing whatever advantage they have.

Exactly!! Why wouldn't they?!! DS identified as Hispanic because of his Hispanic grandmother even though it never occurred to him to do so in the past. It is the way things are done now.

Legal?

Of course it is legal. We have proof of her ethnicity with is 100% Hispanic. So he is 1/4 Hispanic. That qualifies. LOL

How can you prove it? Are colleges asking you for documentation? Did they ask Warren to prove she was "Native American". Many people claim ancestries based on deception passed down from forefathers. I guarantee you I can literally check off any box on app and no one will blink an eye.

I realize it is very unlikely I would be asked to prove it, but my birth certificate shows my mother's birthplace, which is a Latin American country. So, yeah, I can prove it if needed. And yes, we played the card, but don't necessarily identify as Hispanic on a day to day basis. Did it make a difference? Who knows. DS had very high stats too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe how many people on this thread are defending legacy preferences. So much for pretending that this country is a meritocracy. Try to think beyond your own kids and grandchildren. The world would be a better place if we could think beyond our tiny insular family bubble

I think affirmative action, the recent admissions scandal, the anti-Asian discrimination, and athlete recruitment make it very clear that college admissions is far from a meritocracy. In this hunger games environment, every parent is grabbing whatever advantage they have.

Exactly!! Why wouldn't they?!! DS identified as Hispanic because of his Hispanic grandmother even though it never occurred to him to do so in the past. It is the way things are done now.

Legal?

Of course it is legal. We have proof of her ethnicity with is 100% Hispanic. So he is 1/4 Hispanic. That qualifies. LOL

How can you prove it? Are colleges asking you for documentation? Did they ask Warren to prove she was "Native American". Many people claim ancestries based on deception passed down from forefathers. I guarantee you I can literally check off any box on app and no one will blink an eye.

I realize it is very unlikely I would be asked to prove it, but my birth certificate shows my mother's birthplace, which is a Latin American country. So, yeah, I can prove it if needed. And yes, we played the card, but don't necessarily identify as Hispanic on a day to day basis. Did it make a difference? Who knows. DS had very high stats too.

Exactly, thats the whole point of my post there is no "check". Thats why it needs to end. I myself actually did the reverse, I'm hispanic but checked white because I wanted no "preference" and wanted to know if I got in on my own merit. No one verified if I was really white or not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe how many people on this thread are defending legacy preferences. So much for pretending that this country is a meritocracy. Try to think beyond your own kids and grandchildren. The world would be a better place if we could think beyond our tiny insular family bubble

I think affirmative action, the recent admissions scandal, the anti-Asian discrimination, and athlete recruitment make it very clear that college admissions is far from a meritocracy. In this hunger games environment, every parent is grabbing whatever advantage they have.

Exactly!! Why wouldn't they?!! DS identified as Hispanic because of his Hispanic grandmother even though it never occurred to him to do so in the past. It is the way things are done now.

Legal?

Of course it is legal. We have proof of her ethnicity with is 100% Hispanic. So he is 1/4 Hispanic. That qualifies. LOL

How can you prove it? Are colleges asking you for documentation? Did they ask Warren to prove she was "Native American". Many people claim ancestries based on deception passed down from forefathers. I guarantee you I can literally check off any box on app and no one will blink an eye.

I realize it is very unlikely I would be asked to prove it, but my birth certificate shows my mother's birthplace, which is a Latin American country. So, yeah, I can prove it if needed. And yes, we played the card, but don't necessarily identify as Hispanic on a day to day basis. Did it make a difference? Who knows. DS had very high stats too.

Exactly, thats the whole point of my post there is no "check". Thats why it needs to end. I myself actually did the reverse, I'm hispanic but checked white because I wanted no "preference" and wanted to know if I got in on my own merit. No one verified if I was really white or not.

If you want that feather to tip the scale in your direction, you should use everything to your advantage these days, including legacy, URM, connections, athletic, etc. You are crazy if you don't. That's the way it works now folks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe how many people on this thread are defending legacy preferences. So much for pretending that this country is a meritocracy. Try to think beyond your own kids and grandchildren. The world would be a better place if we could think beyond our tiny insular family bubble

I think affirmative action, the recent admissions scandal, the anti-Asian discrimination, and athlete recruitment make it very clear that college admissions is far from a meritocracy. In this hunger games environment, every parent is grabbing whatever advantage they have.

Exactly!! Why wouldn't they?!! DS identified as Hispanic because of his Hispanic grandmother even though it never occurred to him to do so in the past. It is the way things are done now.

Legal?

Of course it is legal. We have proof of her ethnicity with is 100% Hispanic. So he is 1/4 Hispanic. That qualifies. LOL

How can you prove it? Are colleges asking you for documentation? Did they ask Warren to prove she was "Native American". Many people claim ancestries based on deception passed down from forefathers. I guarantee you I can literally check off any box on app and no one will blink an eye.

I realize it is very unlikely I would be asked to prove it, but my birth certificate shows my mother's birthplace, which is a Latin American country. So, yeah, I can prove it if needed. And yes, we played the card, but don't necessarily identify as Hispanic on a day to day basis. Did it make a difference? Who knows. DS had very high stats too.

Exactly, thats the whole point of my post there is no "check". Thats why it needs to end. I myself actually did the reverse, I'm hispanic but checked white because I wanted no "preference" and wanted to know if I got in on my own merit. No one verified if I was really white or not.

If you want that feather to tip the scale in your direction, you should use everything to your advantage these days, including legacy, URM, connections, athletic, etc. You are crazy if you don't. That's the way it works now folks.

I'm good... didn't use any of that...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:End all preferences... That is all...

End all racial preferences and legacy preferences.

Yup.

Focus admissions on merit and colleges on learning.

A revolutionary concept I know.

Speaking of preferences, is it just a coincidence that the last name of the NYT Publisher today is the same as that of the Founder?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:End all preferences... That is all...

End all racial preferences and legacy preferences.

Yup.

Focus admissions on merit and colleges on learning.

A revolutionary concept I know.

Speaking of preferences, is it just a coincidence that the last name of the NYT Publisher today is the same as that of the Founder?

It is a family-owned newspaper.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:End all preferences... That is all...

End all racial preferences and legacy preferences.

Yup.

Focus admissions on merit and colleges on learning.

A revolutionary concept I know.

Speaking of preferences, is it just a coincidence that the last name of the NYT Publisher today is the same as that of the Founder?

Athletic too, do away with the essay (crap, means nothing), do away with fake community service boosts, all of that stuff.

Perhaps only grades, or only test scores, or some new test or all of those combined but thats it. No name on the app, no background, nothing... Just assign a number.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:End all preferences... That is all...

End all racial preferences and legacy preferences.

Yup.

Focus admissions on merit and colleges on learning.

A revolutionary concept I know.

Speaking of preferences, is it just a coincidence that the last name of the NYT Publisher today is the same as that of the Founder?

It is a family-owned newspaper.

The ultimate legacy

Walk the talk and all that...