Overcrowding at Wilson

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Anonymous wrote:Feel free to start advocating for some schools to be pulled out of the Wilson boundary. If Lafayette and Shepherd fed Wells and Coolidge, the EOTP PARCC scores would go up significantly and both feeder patterns would be closer to capacity. Even if 2/3 of the people IB for Lafayette and Shepherd moved or went private or went to selective high schools (they won't) it would still free up space at Wilson and create more diversity and higher test scores at Wells and Coolidge.

Shepherd gives 30 students a year. How does this help overcrowding??? Bus Janney or Murch

Pulling 90 students out of Deal and 120 out of Wilson obviously helps overcrowding. When redistricting it makes sense to reduce travel times and distances as much as possible; sending Shepherd to Wilson and Janney to Coolidge would not help with that.

I think everyone must suffer and worry about housing value and school performance, all HS should be lottery. It is the only fair and equitable solution. For all who chime in about white flight, it doesn’t matter.

Such a plan was a complete and utter failure in San Francisco and they are killing it off:

https://www.sfchronicle.com/education/article/SF-school-board-plans-to-replace-failing-school-13461014.php

DP. That was all schools, not HS only. It makes sense to have a ranking system. Especially with the new college HS options.

This is a stupid idea. Lottery makes no sense when there is one viable HS in DC. No parents are willing to mess with HS education. The stakes are too high. There is also no bus system in DC. You cannot force a student from AU Park to go to Anacostia HS without providing transportation when there is a HS 5min walk from where the student lives.

It would get sorted out. Likely an AU Park student would not go to Anacostia. They could go to Roosevelt, Coolidge or Wilson. I’m not sure why AU parents are so quick to inflict pain on others when you are so unwilling to shoulder pain yourself?! There are many students at Wilson who shoulder the burden of a commute and you get to should the pain of a crowded school. It’s a shared burden! Stop whining.

This is absurd. First, a key reason that Wilson is an okay school is because of the neighborhood students who attend. You can spread Wilson students equally across schools all over DC, and you will end up with 0 0 performing schools. So then we have the equity of universally sucky schools.

Second, why is everyone simply supposed to agree to share pain just because DCPS is bad at their mission? Maybe they should work to improve the schools?

We are judging school performance on assessment tests, correct? Assessment tests accurately measure HH income and a mother’s education level. Children in poverty will never score well and therefore rich white people won’t attend school with them, which means their test scores won’t improve.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:May the SJWs please fix some of the broken high schools siphoning out hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayer money for luxurious buildings instead of trying to steal the one high school that works well thanks to its community and neighbors and in spite of lack of resources?

Maybe the conservative bigots could stop leaving everything to the “SJW” to fix. Why don’t you step up and solve the problem for everyone. But remember separate but equal was struck down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:May the SJWs please fix some of the broken high schools siphoning out hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayer money for luxurious buildings instead of trying to steal the one high school that works well thanks to its community and neighbors and in spite of lack of resources?

It's the same SJWs who want to siphon money and resources towards changing Wilson's name. None of them have put forth any rationale as to how that would address the achievement gap aside from making everyone feel good and seeming woke. I guarantee there will be a response calling everyone who opposes a name change a racist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:May the SJWs please fix some of the broken high schools siphoning out hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayer money for luxurious buildings instead of trying to steal the one high school that works well thanks to its community and neighbors and in spite of lack of resources?

It's the same SJWs who want to siphon money and resources towards changing Wilson's name. None of them have put forth any rationale as to how that would address the achievement gap aside from making everyone feel good and seeming woke. I guarantee there will be a response calling everyone who opposes a name change a racist.

There are no “SJW” at work here!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:May the SJWs please fix some of the broken high schools siphoning out hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayer money for luxurious buildings instead of trying to steal the one high school that works well thanks to its community and neighbors and in spite of lack of resources?

May the Trumpian moron who must include the idiotic "SJW" acronym in all his/her posts please STFU and let the adults talk?

[Anonymous]

Is Wilson REALLY overcrowded, or is this thread just puffing at windmills?

[Anonymous]

This whole thread is like pearl-clutching Fox News Lite. Liberals talking through their fears about losing access to privilege and how the privilege they bought isn't as good as they thought it would be.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:May the SJWs please fix some of the broken high schools siphoning out hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayer money for luxurious buildings instead of trying to steal the one high school that works well thanks to its community and neighbors and in spite of lack of resources?

It's the same SJWs who want to siphon money and resources towards changing Wilson's name. None of them have put forth any rationale as to how that would address the achievement gap aside from making everyone feel good and seeming woke. I guarantee there will be a response calling everyone who opposes a name change a racist.

Indeed.

And 90% of them will NOT live in Wilson's boundary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is Wilson REALLY overcrowded, or is this thread just puffing at windmills?

1600 students in a building that can accommodate 1300.
If kids are succeeding, it is despite the inept administration. They sell it as kids learning to "advocate for themselves".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is Wilson REALLY overcrowded, or is this thread just puffing at windmills?

1600 students in a building that can accommodate 1300.
If kids are succeeding, it is despite the inept administration. They sell it as kids learning to "advocate for themselves".

And I am wrong. There are now 1,791 students at Wilson.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is Wilson REALLY overcrowded, or is this thread just puffing at windmills?

1600 students in a building that can accommodate 1300.
If kids are succeeding, it is despite the inept administration. They sell it as kids learning to "advocate for themselves".

And I am wrong. There are now 1,791 students at Wilson.

Again, building capacity is a fantasy number. It was arbitrarily arrived at by determining the amount of space per sq ft a student needs. It’s like vapor math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is Wilson REALLY overcrowded, or is this thread just puffing at windmills?

1600 students in a building that can accommodate 1300.
If kids are succeeding, it is despite the inept administration. They sell it as kids learning to "advocate for themselves".

And I am wrong. There are now 1,791 students at Wilson.

Again, building capacity is a fantasy number. It was arbitrarily arrived at by determining the amount of space per sq ft a student needs. It’s like vapor math.

While there may not be a clearly established number, it doesn’t mean the concept of “overcrowded” doesn’t exist.

[Anonymous]

While overcrowding is a very real problem, I think the bigger question, given where we are today and the reluctance to cut any faction currently entitled to attend Wilson, is what can be done to provide the resources necessary for the school to thrive? More teachers, more counselors to manage enrollment better, more space for classrooms if necessary.

Schools with higher enrollment number thrive all over the country, why can’t we get Wilson what it needs to thrive?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Feel free to start advocating for some schools to be pulled out of the Wilson boundary. If Lafayette and Shepherd fed Wells and Coolidge, the EOTP PARCC scores would go up significantly and both feeder patterns would be closer to capacity. Even if 2/3 of the people IB for Lafayette and Shepherd moved or went private or went to selective high schools (they won't) it would still free up space at Wilson and create more diversity and higher test scores at Wells and Coolidge.

Shepherd gives 30 students a year. How does this help overcrowding??? Bus Janney or Murch

Pulling 90 students out of Deal and 120 out of Wilson obviously helps overcrowding. When redistricting it makes sense to reduce travel times and distances as much as possible; sending Shepherd to Wilson and Janney to Coolidge would not help with that.

I think everyone must suffer and worry about housing value and school performance, all HS should be lottery. It is the only fair and equitable solution. For all who chime in about white flight, it doesn’t matter.

Such a plan was a complete and utter failure in San Francisco and they are killing it off:

https://www.sfchronicle.com/education/article/SF-school-board-plans-to-replace-failing-school-13461014.php

DP. That was all schools, not HS only. It makes sense to have a ranking system. Especially with the new college HS options.

This is a stupid idea. Lottery makes no sense when there is one viable HS in DC. No parents are willing to mess with HS education. The stakes are too high. There is also no bus system in DC. You cannot force a student from AU Park to go to Anacostia HS without providing transportation when there is a HS 5min walk from where the student lives.

It would get sorted out. Likely an AU Park student would not go to Anacostia. They could go to Roosevelt, Coolidge or Wilson. I’m not sure why AU parents are so quick to inflict pain on others when you are so unwilling to shoulder pain yourself?! There are many students at Wilson who shoulder the burden of a commute and you get to should the pain of a crowded school. It’s a shared burden! Stop whining.

This is absurd. First, a key reason that Wilson is an okay school is because of the neighborhood students who attend. You can spread Wilson students equally across schools all over DC, and you will end up with 0 0 performing schools. So then we have the equity of universally sucky schools.

Second, why is everyone simply supposed to agree to share pain just because DCPS is bad at their mission? Maybe they should work to improve the schools?

You’re conflicting your statements. Roosevelt isn’t a bad school because of the teachers, staff, and facilities, they just have fewer high HHI students. Your AU park high HHI student will do just as well at Roosevelt as they would at Wilson. There are many studies that show ideal low income rates (including benefits for high income students) to be 30-50%. Thus, since Wilson is turning to be an all high income school, it’s best for everyone (including AU kids and Petworth kids) to have choice sets for high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Feel free to start advocating for some schools to be pulled out of the Wilson boundary. If Lafayette and Shepherd fed Wells and Coolidge, the EOTP PARCC scores would go up significantly and both feeder patterns would be closer to capacity. Even if 2/3 of the people IB for Lafayette and Shepherd moved or went private or went to selective high schools (they won't) it would still free up space at Wilson and create more diversity and higher test scores at Wells and Coolidge.

Shepherd gives 30 students a year. How does this help overcrowding??? Bus Janney or Murch

Pulling 90 students out of Deal and 120 out of Wilson obviously helps overcrowding. When redistricting it makes sense to reduce travel times and distances as much as possible; sending Shepherd to Wilson and Janney to Coolidge would not help with that.

I think everyone must suffer and worry about housing value and school performance, all HS should be lottery. It is the only fair and equitable solution. For all who chime in about white flight, it doesn’t matter.

Such a plan was a complete and utter failure in San Francisco and they are killing it off:

https://www.sfchronicle.com/education/article/SF-school-board-plans-to-replace-failing-school-13461014.php

DP. That was all schools, not HS only. It makes sense to have a ranking system. Especially with the new college HS options.

This is a stupid idea. Lottery makes no sense when there is one viable HS in DC. No parents are willing to mess with HS education. The stakes are too high. There is also no bus system in DC. You cannot force a student from AU Park to go to Anacostia HS without providing transportation when there is a HS 5min walk from where the student lives.

It would get sorted out. Likely an AU Park student would not go to Anacostia. They could go to Roosevelt, Coolidge or Wilson. I’m not sure why AU parents are so quick to inflict pain on others when you are so unwilling to shoulder pain yourself?! There are many students at Wilson who shoulder the burden of a commute and you get to should the pain of a crowded school. It’s a shared burden! Stop whining.

This is absurd. First, a key reason that Wilson is an okay school is because of the neighborhood students who attend. You can spread Wilson students equally across schools all over DC, and you will end up with 0 0 performing schools. So then we have the equity of universally sucky schools.

Second, why is everyone simply supposed to agree to share pain just because DCPS is bad at their mission? Maybe they should work to improve the schools?

You’re conflicting your statements. Roosevelt isn’t a bad school because of the teachers, staff, and facilities, they just have fewer high HHI students. Your AU park high HHI student will do just as well at Roosevelt as they would at Wilson. There are many studies that show ideal low income rates (including benefits for high income students) to be 30-50%. Thus, since Wilson is turning to be an all high income school, it’s best for everyone (including AU kids and Petworth kids) to have choice sets for high school.

Show me one study that it is a *benefit* to the High SES student to go to a low SES high school.