Is it possible to teach kids to be inclusive and not racist when

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am clear that Sherwood is not in the DCC. That said, for some administrative purposes, MCPS has a division between “down county” and “up county” schools. In that division, Sherwood is “down county.” The southernmost (or maybe southeastern-most) “up county” high school is Magruder.

This is patently false. Sherwood is Mid-County, see here: https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/upcounty/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sad Sad Sad all the way around. My daughter goes to Whitman and we do teach her to be inclusive and not racist! I hate being blamed for the school we chose for her. It's a wonderful school. If it makes you feel any better she hears anti-semitic comments on her bus like "let's do what Hitler did to the Jewish kids on the bus" and yes, we are Jewish.

Wha a wonderful school.

Exactly...

[Anonymous]

To have diverse schools you need diverse housing. Bethesda and Potomac does not really have that. My old neighborhood nearly every small store, Delli, Bar, Dry Cleaner, Hardware store had apartments on top. Usually Mom and Pop landlords in busy sections of towns in buildings with zero amenities, you know AC in window, walk to laundermat and park car in street.

My school district was amazing and we had multi-million dollar homes in town but low income folks could move in and enjoy schools. We dont have that type of housing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To have diverse schools you need diverse housing. Bethesda and Potomac does not really have that. My old neighborhood nearly every small store, Delli, Bar, Dry Cleaner, Hardware store had apartments on top. Usually Mom and Pop landlords in busy sections of towns in buildings with zero amenities, you know AC in window, walk to laundermat and park car in street.

My school district was amazing and we had multi-million dollar homes in town but low income folks could move in and enjoy schools. We dont have that type of housing

They were set up that way on purpose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To have diverse schools you need diverse housing. Bethesda and Potomac does not really have that. My old neighborhood nearly every small store, Delli, Bar, Dry Cleaner, Hardware store had apartments on top. Usually Mom and Pop landlords in busy sections of towns in buildings with zero amenities, you know AC in window, walk to laundermat and park car in street.

My school district was amazing and we had multi-million dollar homes in town but low income folks could move in and enjoy schools. We dont have that type of housing

They were set up that way on purpose.

^^^one might almost call it "social engineering"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One naughty kid in a mud mask = 2000 naughty kids!

I thought there were other recent incidents too? Several incidents sounds like a pattern to me.

Actually, just found this article from the Whitman student paper--several incidents are mentioned:

"Just this year, there have been several racially motivated incidents reported, including a student using the N-word as part of a Kahoot username and a student using the N-word on a Snapchat story, separately from this weekend’s incident. Many other incidents went unreported. Last year, after a black student was harassed and called the N-word multiple times, administrators held a school-wide assembly on racism. The student said he’d experienced more racism here in Bethesda than anywhere else he’d ever lived."

https://theblackandwhite.net/63963/opinion/forget-whitmans-reputation-lets-talk-about-racism/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To have diverse schools you need diverse housing. Bethesda and Potomac does not really have that. My old neighborhood nearly every small store, Delli, Bar, Dry Cleaner, Hardware store had apartments on top. Usually Mom and Pop landlords in busy sections of towns in buildings with zero amenities, you know AC in window, walk to laundermat and park car in street.

My school district was amazing and we had multi-million dollar homes in town but low income folks could move in and enjoy schools. We dont have that type of housing

They were set up that way on purpose.

as is the whole world's housing supply

closer to jobs? housing and land costs more psf.
closer to transportation? housing and land costs more psf.
closer to airports, parks, stores, entertainment? housing and land costs more psf.
less crime? housing and land costs more psf.
cachement area schools with highly performing students? housing and land costs more psf.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To have diverse schools you need diverse housing. Bethesda and Potomac does not really have that. My old neighborhood nearly every small store, Delli, Bar, Dry Cleaner, Hardware store had apartments on top. Usually Mom and Pop landlords in busy sections of towns in buildings with zero amenities, you know AC in window, walk to laundermat and park car in street.

My school district was amazing and we had multi-million dollar homes in town but low income folks could move in and enjoy schools. We dont have that type of housing

They were set up that way on purpose.

as is the whole world's housing supply

closer to jobs? housing and land costs more psf.
closer to transportation? housing and land costs more psf.
closer to airports, parks, stores, entertainment? housing and land costs more psf.
less crime? housing and land costs more psf.
cachement area schools with highly performing students? housing and land costs more psf.

One of these things is not like the others...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To have diverse schools you need diverse housing. Bethesda and Potomac does not really have that. My old neighborhood nearly every small store, Delli, Bar, Dry Cleaner, Hardware store had apartments on top. Usually Mom and Pop landlords in busy sections of towns in buildings with zero amenities, you know AC in window, walk to laundermat and park car in street.

My school district was amazing and we had multi-million dollar homes in town but low income folks could move in and enjoy schools. We dont have that type of housing

They were set up that way on purpose.

as is the whole world's housing supply

closer to jobs? housing and land costs more psf.
closer to transportation? housing and land costs more psf.
closer to airports, parks, stores, entertainment? housing and land costs more psf.
less crime? housing and land costs more psf.
cachement area schools with highly performing students? housing and land costs more psf.

No, the whole world's housing supply is not based on zoning that only allows single-family detached houses on large-ish lots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To have diverse schools you need diverse housing. Bethesda and Potomac does not really have that. My old neighborhood nearly every small store, Delli, Bar, Dry Cleaner, Hardware store had apartments on top. Usually Mom and Pop landlords in busy sections of towns in buildings with zero amenities, you know AC in window, walk to laundermat and park car in street.

My school district was amazing and we had multi-million dollar homes in town but low income folks could move in and enjoy schools. We dont have that type of housing

They were set up that way on purpose.

as is the whole world's housing supply

closer to jobs? housing and land costs more psf.
closer to transportation? housing and land costs more psf.
closer to airports, parks, stores, entertainment? housing and land costs more psf.
less crime? housing and land costs more psf.
cachement area schools with highly performing students? housing and land costs more psf.

No, the whole world's housing supply is not based on zoning that only allows single-family detached houses on large-ish lots.

Wtf is diverse housing?

It sure as heck does not mean way below market cost in any big city. That uneconomical and unsustainable.

So you’re going to go do some tear downs in NYC, LOndon, Paris, Tokyo, Frankfurt, Tel Aviv, San Paulo, Mexico City and slap up some council housing for the poors and illegal immigrants? Good luck with that. Wonder what will happen.... probably the same thing that always happens to the projects.

Btw, thanx to the PPP who succinctly described the global property value function. Unclear if Econ is required in uber progressive county school systems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

No, the whole world's housing supply is not based on zoning that only allows single-family detached houses on large-ish lots.

Wtf is diverse housing?

It sure as heck does not mean way below market cost in any big city. That uneconomical and unsustainable.

So you’re going to go do some tear downs in NYC, LOndon, Paris, Tokyo, Frankfurt, Tel Aviv, San Paulo, Mexico City and slap up some council housing for the poors and illegal immigrants? Good luck with that. Wonder what will happen.... probably the same thing that always happens to the projects.

Btw, thanx to the PPP who succinctly described the global property value function. Unclear if Econ is required in uber progressive county school systems.

Different housing types. Detached houses, duplexes, rowhouses, triple deckers, small multi-family buildings, larger multi-family buildings, rental housing, owner-occupied housing... That's pretty basic.

But in most of Bethesda, only detached houses are allowed, because of zoning.

I don't understand what you're talking about with "tear downs in NYC, London, Paris, Tokyo..." These are enormous cities with millions and millions of inhabitants - and diverse housing, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

No, the whole world's housing supply is not based on zoning that only allows single-family detached houses on large-ish lots.

Wtf is diverse housing?

It sure as heck does not mean way below market cost in any big city. That uneconomical and unsustainable.

So you’re going to go do some tear downs in NYC, LOndon, Paris, Tokyo, Frankfurt, Tel Aviv, San Paulo, Mexico City and slap up some council housing for the poors and illegal immigrants? Good luck with that. Wonder what will happen.... probably the same thing that always happens to the projects.

Btw, thanx to the PPP who succinctly described the global property value function. Unclear if Econ is required in uber progressive county school systems.

Different housing types. Detached houses, duplexes, rowhouses, triple deckers, small multi-family buildings, larger multi-family buildings, rental housing, owner-occupied housing... That's pretty basic.

But in most of Bethesda, only detached houses are allowed, because of zoning.

I don't understand what you're talking about with "tear downs in NYC, London, Paris, Tokyo..." These are enormous cities with millions and millions of inhabitants - and diverse housing, too.

poor people are getting pushed out of those places at record rates. Stuff held in weak hands is quickly taken. All one can do is not be weak. Being poor sucks and that is one of the reasons.

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Diversity is near impossible. I recall a few years back Valley Stream Long Island won award as most diverse town in the United States. It has the near exact representation of races and nationalities the US Census had of the USA as a whole.

So move to Valley Stream Long Island it is near Manhattan and if you miss snobby Potomac and Bethesda get a weekend Hampton’s house to hide out.

They're comfortable.

https://www.point2homes.com/US/Neighborhood/NY/Valley-Stream-Village-Demographics.html

few who are below poverty level
educated
solid salaries
lots of families

seems like a Modern Day Mayberry

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

poor people are getting pushed out of those places at record rates. Stuff held in weak hands is quickly taken. All one can do is not be weak. Being poor sucks and that is one of the reasons.

Who are you, Ayn Rand's housing policy adviser?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I'm the poster who made the original comment re Sherwood. We live in Olney, and I obviously know it isn't part of the DCC. My comment referenced down county friends who criticize Sherwood (i.e.: our friends who live in the DCC area). No clue why subsequent posters started lumping Sherwood in with the DCC.

Re: the DP who said it might be a farms related comment - perhaps. Although the comments I've heard firsthand apply to racial demographics. People seem to think the school is 100% white kids (they probably think we still have farms (the kind with animals; the kinds where we used to have field parties back in the 80s/90s) in Olney, too). It's true that we don't have a lot of FARMs; that's because we don't have much rental housing (not a lot of apartments or condos).

That didn't just happen to happen that way.

depends on zoning laws

Years ago, 108 was a narrow road surrounded by farming community. Multi-housing units aren't existing on well and septic.

so no - It DIDN'T just happen that way; it happened for a very different reason than you're implying.