Do you know of any situations where student got into "reach" schools but not safety schools?

[Anonymous]

I have 4 kids--the youngest is currently a high school senior. The previous 3 have all encountered anomalies in their application/acceptance experiences. It happens. I like the recent change that the College Board has made to the college list. All the schools that you put on your list are sorted by reach--match---safety according to the stats in your profile (GPA, SAT scores, etc.) For my kid, reaches are easily identified and some of the matches were surprising--and luckily right on target with my kid's interests. Having a hard time finding safeties--99% are odd little schools, religious colleges or lesser known locations for state universities. But it has been a good tool to illustrate what the true meaning of each category is. Essentially, a safety school is one where they will accept you as long as you are alive and breathing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have 4 kids--the youngest is currently a high school senior. The previous 3 have all encountered anomalies in their application/acceptance experiences. It happens. I like the recent change that the College Board has made to the college list. All the schools that you put on your list are sorted by reach--match---safety according to the stats in your profile (GPA, SAT scores, etc.) For my kid, reaches are easily identified and some of the matches were surprising--and luckily right on target with my kid's interests. Having a hard time finding safeties--99% are odd little schools, religious colleges or lesser known locations for state universities. But it has been a good tool to illustrate what the true meaning of each category is. Essentially, a safety school is one where they will accept you as long as you are alive and breathing.

My DD has a college list on her College Board site, along with test scores. How does one sort the colleges on the list?

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Anonymous wrote:Got into USC, WashU, Pratt, Tulane, Clemson, not VA Tech so who really knows

were you applying for engineering? Had you finished calculus in high school when you applied?

Architecture and yes to Calculus.

The Va Tech Architecture school is notoriously difficult to get into.

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Anonymous wrote:What the hell is with the Michigan haters on this forum? It's so random and weird.

Every school yield protects, by the way.

Also, kids don't make decisions solely based on the selectivity of the schools they get into.

Not every school yield protects. Michigan does it. UVA doesn't.

That's ludicrous - what data do you have to support this? Your one or two anecdotes from personal experience don't count as hard science

Read CollegeConfidential.com. Look at the caliber of students rejected. Michigan does yield protect. Look also at the number of applications and the size of the admissions office. UVA is now receiving over 40K applications a year and has a small admissions office. Smaller offices can't be bothered spending the time checking against visitation lists or trying to guesstimate who will show up and who won't. Also UVA has indicated that it doesn't take personal visits into consideration . . . it just can't. So it admits those with the best stats. On the other hand, my tiny LAC does care about yield because it's trying to climb the rankings charts so it does yield protect. Some choices are easy. If a URM student applies who has unbelievable stats, then my LAC knows he or she is using them as a safety so they won't admit them.

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Anonymous wrote:What the hell is with the Michigan haters on this forum? It's so random and weird.

Every school yield protects, by the way.

Also, kids don't make decisions solely based on the selectivity of the schools they get into.

Not every school yield protects. Michigan does it. UVA doesn't.

That's ludicrous - what data do you have to support this? Your one or two anecdotes from personal experience don't count as hard science

Feel free to ignore it if you believe it's ludicrous.

Other schools engage yield-protect: Emory and Case Western Reserve.

[Anonymous]

My LAC yield protects but it has to because it has dropped in the USN&WR ratings. Increasing yield and lowering selectivity percentiles is a way to help regain stature if the college has fallen in the charts.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What the hell is with the Michigan haters on this forum? It's so random and weird.

Every school yield protects, by the way.

Also, kids don't make decisions solely based on the selectivity of the schools they get into.

Not every school yield protects. Michigan does it. UVA doesn't.

That's ludicrous - what data do you have to support this? Your one or two anecdotes from personal experience don't count as hard science

Feel free to ignore it if you believe it's ludicrous.

Other schools engage yield-protect: Emory and Case Western Reserve.

You can call it yield protection or whatever, but isn't it just a version of accepting who they want? Just like the higher ranked do when they choose among similar applicants?

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Anonymous wrote:What the hell is with the Michigan haters on this forum? It's so random and weird.

Every school yield protects, by the way.

Also, kids don't make decisions solely based on the selectivity of the schools they get into.

Not every school yield protects. Michigan does it. UVA doesn't.

That's ludicrous - what data do you have to support this? Your one or two anecdotes from personal experience don't count as hard science

Feel free to ignore it if you believe it's ludicrous.

Other schools engage yield-protect: Emory and Case Western Reserve.

You can call it yield protection or whatever, but isn't it just a version of accepting who they want? Just like the higher ranked do when they choose among similar applicants?

Agree. Schools can pick the students they think will be a good fit for what they are offering. LACs do this all the time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What the hell is with the Michigan haters on this forum? It's so random and weird.

Every school yield protects, by the way.

Also, kids don't make decisions solely based on the selectivity of the schools they get into.

Not every school yield protects. Michigan does it. UVA doesn't.

That's ludicrous - what data do you have to support this? Your one or two anecdotes from personal experience don't count as hard science

Feel free to ignore it if you believe it's ludicrous.

Other schools engage yield-protect: Emory and Case Western Reserve.

You can call it yield protection or whatever, but isn't it just a version of accepting who they want? Just like the higher ranked do when they choose among similar applicants?

No. You don't seem to understand the concept. By definition every school admits who it wants. However not all schools practice yield protection.

[Anonymous]

I was admitted to Yale, Brown, and Columbia and rejected at Claremont McKenna College.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was admitted to Yale, Brown, and Columbia and rejected at Claremont McKenna College.

So? CMC is not a safety.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What the hell is with the Michigan haters on this forum? It's so random and weird.

Every school yield protects, by the way.

Also, kids don't make decisions solely based on the selectivity of the schools they get into.

Not every school yield protects. Michigan does it. UVA doesn't.

That's ludicrous - what data do you have to support this? Your one or two anecdotes from personal experience don't count as hard science

Feel free to ignore it if you believe it's ludicrous.

Other schools engage yield-protect: Emory and Case Western Reserve.

You can call it yield protection or whatever, but isn't it just a version of accepting who they want? Just like the higher ranked do when they choose among similar applicants?

No. You don't seem to understand the concept. By definition every school admits who it wants. However not all schools practice yield protection.

No, you missed the point. Just because a high stat kid gets rejected does not mean yield protection. It may mean the school is looking for something else.