Who has failed or barely passed a security clearance?

Anonymous
I was almost denied a TS clearance by the Army. We went to family counseling when I was younger due to some family conflict issues and that raised a red flag. I had to be supplementally evaluated by a psychiatrist which included an interview type session and I also had to take a really long test that presented scenarios and I had to fill in the bubble with my answer. I think it was the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory but I'm not sure.
Anonymous
How do they have the right to view your medical records?

Do I consent to this at some point with some form in this process??
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How do they have the right to view your medical records?

Do I consent to this at some point with some form in this process??


Yes. You consent to their seeing your medical records, financial records, interviewing friends, neighbors, co-workers. They are evaluating whether you can be trusted with our nation's national security secrets. Are there things to indicate that you could be a risk to national security, or are there things in your life that could leave you open to manipulation by a foreign government (e.g. financial problems).

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How do they have the right to view your medical records?

Do I consent to this at some point with some form in this process??


Yes, there’s a form that you sign that gives consent
Anonymous
Hope they don't deny me due to a history of depression
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How do they have the right to view your medical records?

Do I consent to this at some point with some form in this process??


I am not sure about this either. I don’t recall consenting to this anywhere in the SF-86. I thought all medical records had to be voluntarily provided due to HIPAA. I really don’t see how anyone other than explicitly named and authorized sources could get to my medical records. How would some contractor they hired to do my background investigation even know where to go? I’ve never named a doctor and I’ve been through multiple BIs.

I just think there’s a lot of hysteria on this thread. Either that or it’s VERY agency-specific.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Hope they don't deny me due to a history of depression


Depression is ok usually as long as it is disclosed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How do they have the right to view your medical records?

Do I consent to this at some point with some form in this process??


Yes, there’s a form that you sign that gives consent


It’s not like there is a national database of medical records. If you disclose a history of counseling or mental illness or medication that’s one thing they’d dig into and probably ASK you to provide a letter/records from your doctor. Otherwise they only know what they are told. You do not give them carte blanche into your medical history even if they could access it somehow.!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How do they have the right to view your medical records?

Do I consent to this at some point with some form in this process??


I am not sure about this either. I don’t recall consenting to this anywhere in the SF-86. I thought all medical records had to be voluntarily provided due to HIPAA. I really don’t see how anyone other than explicitly named and authorized sources could get to my medical records. How would some contractor they hired to do my background investigation even know where to go? I’ve never named a doctor and I’ve been through multiple BIs.

I just think there’s a lot of hysteria on this thread. Either that or it’s VERY agency-specific.


Its the government, they have access to anything. You absolutely sign consenting for medical records.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How do they have the right to view your medical records?

Do I consent to this at some point with some form in this process??


They have the right ask and if you refuse, you get denied. Simple. You should sign a consent form.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How do they have the right to view your medical records?

Do I consent to this at some point with some form in this process??


I am not sure about this either. I don’t recall consenting to this anywhere in the SF-86. I thought all medical records had to be voluntarily provided due to HIPAA. I really don’t see how anyone other than explicitly named and authorized sources could get to my medical records. How would some contractor they hired to do my background investigation even know where to go? I’ve never named a doctor and I’ve been through multiple BIs.

I just think there’s a lot of hysteria on this thread. Either that or it’s VERY agency-specific.


Its the government, they have access to anything. You absolutely sign consenting for medical records.


This is so blatantly untrue. Like someone said below, they can ask and if you deny, you can be denied a clearance. But no, the “government” does not have unfettered right to my private medical records. Are you insane?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How do they have the right to view your medical records?

Do I consent to this at some point with some form in this process??


I am not sure about this either. I don’t recall consenting to this anywhere in the SF-86. I thought all medical records had to be voluntarily provided due to HIPAA. I really don’t see how anyone other than explicitly named and authorized sources could get to my medical records. How would some contractor they hired to do my background investigation even know where to go? I’ve never named a doctor and I’ve been through multiple BIs.

I just think there’s a lot of hysteria on this thread. Either that or it’s VERY agency-specific.


Its the government, they have access to anything. You absolutely sign consenting for medical records.


Yes, you do sign a form giving consent for many of your records. However, how exactly do you think the government can just access your medical records? I take it you don't work in a capacity where you have access to high-level government information because if you did, you would know that the government can't just magically access things.

You sign a form saying you will answer all questions truthfully. Those questions include aspects of your health history. If they ask whether you've gone to counseling for depression, you're supposed to answer truthfully and give the name of the person you saw. The background investigator will contact that person and ask about your treatment and whether you were diagnosed with anything.

None of this is forced upon you; you can simply say you're not comfortable and not move forward with the application process.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:BTW for everyone interested, you can find records of appeals of some clearance decisions here:

http://ogc.osd.mil/doha/industrial/

Worth looking through what issues get raised.


Wow, 95% of those cases are due to financial issues. Never get behind on your bills! This sort of sucks, because the process really privileges people who were provided financial literacy when they were young. That tends to be people who come from money. Or, those who come from a stable family with some money have a relative who can bail them out of their early financial mistakes.

It's a tough call.


Sure, but the ultimate reason finances are an issue is because foreign governments can easily offer someone in debt a lot of money in exchange for government secrets. It does end up privileging people who have money, but there's a clear national security reason for it.


Too bad they don't apply this rigor to people who have actual power like Trump and Kushner.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-23/trump-security-clearance-breaches-to-be-probed-by-democrats
Anonymous
The government doesn’t have unfettered access to your medical records. There are questions on the SF-86 asking about mental health issues and alcohol/drug issues. The information you provide there can lead to the government speaking to your care provider. And yes, you absolutely signed a consent form if you have been evaluated for a clearance. Investigators have a series of questions that they can ask care providers.

Here is a good overview:

The SF-86 asks applicants several questions that relate to psychiatric treatment. The first question asks applicants to indicate whether they have consulted with a mental health professional within the last 7 years and, if so, to disclose the dates of treatment, and the name and address of the physician or therapist. However, the disclosure of treatment dates and the contact information is not required if the “consultation(s) involved only marital, family, or grief counseling, not related to violence by you.” In another section, the applicant is asked if their use of alcohol has resulted in any alcohol-related treatment or counseling in the last 7 years. Again, if the applicant replies affirmatively, they must supply the dates of treatment, identity of the physician or counselor, and related contact information.

The SF-86 includes an “Authorization for Release of Medical Information”. This authorization allows the investigator to obtain responses to three questions concerning “mental health consultations.” The form indicates to applicants, “Your signature will allow the practitioner(s) to answer only these questions.” The three questions are: (1) Does the person under investigation have a condition or treatment that could impair his/her judgment or reliability, particularly in the context of safeguarding classified national security information or special nuclear information or material? (2) If so, please describe the nature of the condition and the extent and duration of the impairment or treatment, (3) What is the prognosis?

At the time of the in-person interview with the investigator, upon verification of past or current mental health treatment, the clearance applicant is asked to sign a second release, Specific Release OFI-16A. The OFI-16A authorizes the federal investigator to obtain information from clinicians or organizations identified by the applicant. This form provides two boxes that the applicant can check to specify the information to be released. The first, headed “Medical,” states, parenthetically, “May include, but not limited to: dates of confinement, participation, or treatment; diagnosis; doctors’ orders; medication sheets; urine result reports; prognosis; and medical opinions regarding my health, recovery and/or rehabilitation; as well as other information indicated below,” followed by lines to be filled in by the applicant. At the end of the lines appears the statement, “I am aware that the information released by the above named person or organization may, but not necessarily, contain data pertaining to my use and/or abuse of alcohol and/or drugs, and my participation in a rehabilitation program with the above named organization.” The second box, headed “Other,” provides several lines for information to be specified.

The standard investigator practice is to arrange to meet with the applicant-identified psychiatrist and to present the signed OFI-16A. The SF-86 release is not routinely presented, except in unusual circumstances: for example, when the investigator interviews the psychiatrist prior to the applicant interview and, therefore, an OFI-16A has not been executed. The OFI-16A is the preferred release form.

The Office of Personnel Management provides an investigator’s handbook that provides a set of questions about applicants, to be answered by the identified psychiatrists. These questions are as follows:
1. Dates of treatment;
2. The initial complaint/reason why treatment was sought;
3. The identity and amount of any medication prescribed;
4. The nature of any additional treatment provided or
recommended;
5. Whether the Subject followed all prescribed or recommended
6. The exact nature of any diagnoses made;
7. Whether and to whom the Subject was referred and whether and
from whom the Subject was referred; 8. The prognosis;
9. The potential for the Subject’s condition or treatment to impact on their ability to properly safeguard sensitive (in public trust cases) or classified (in national security cases) information;
10. The potential for the Subject’s condition or treatment to impact their judgment or reliability; and
11. Whether Subject has or may engage in any violent or otherwise reckless or aberrant behavior because of their condition or treatment.

Adjudicators review all information compiled during the course of the investigation and determine whether clearance will be granted. In some cases, adjudicators may require that specialized evaluations be performed to assess security risk. A positive response from the treating psychiatrist to questions 9, 10, or 11 indicating that the person under investigation has a condition that could affect their ability to safeguard information, impair judgment or reliability, or is at risk for violent or aberrant behavior, is likely to trigger a request for more information and a specialized mental health evaluation.
Specialized mental health evaluations also result when treating psychiatrists are unable to address those questions, or indicate that they have “no opinion.” Reportedly, the majority of applicants with psychiatric treatment histories, and the majority of those who have specialized evaluations, receive security clearances. In some instances, clearance may be made contingent upon continued psychiatric treatment.


https://www.psychiatry.org/File%20Library/Psychiatrists/Directories/Library-and-Archive/resource_documents/rd2006_FederalPersonnelInvestigations.pdf
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How do they have the right to view your medical records?

Do I consent to this at some point with some form in this process??


I am not sure about this either. I don’t recall consenting to this anywhere in the SF-86. I thought all medical records had to be voluntarily provided due to HIPAA. I really don’t see how anyone other than explicitly named and authorized sources could get to my medical records. How would some contractor they hired to do my background investigation even know where to go? I’ve never named a doctor and I’ve been through multiple BIs.

I just think there’s a lot of hysteria on this thread. Either that or it’s VERY agency-specific.


Its the government, they have access to anything. You absolutely sign consenting for medical records.


This is so blatantly untrue. Like someone said below, they can ask and if you deny, you can be denied a clearance. But no, the “government” does not have unfettered right to my private medical records. Are you insane?


Be real, the government has access to everything. They can look through your health insurance provider and other ways to find out who your doctor is but if you don't sign the release you probably aren't going to get a clearance.
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