Who has failed or barely passed a security clearance?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DH had to take the polygraph 2x for TS/SCI. He got flustered about the pot question even though the last time he smoked was in college (35 years ago.) He admitted to it, but they thought he was hiding something, He wasn't. He took it again and passed. That was 10 years ago.


OP here. Yeah, the pot stuff is ridiculous. Their only way of catching you on that is the polygraph?

At what level do they even not do polygraph? Secret and below?

My (completely uninformed) guess is that for a low level clearance, you are ok saying you haven't done any in the last year because they have no other way of finding out. You could probably say you did it a few years ago without getting in too much trouble?

Most clearances - even TS’ don’t require polys. It more common in the Intel sector but not so much in the DoD or Civilian agencies. Not worth the costs.


CI poly's are required for DIA SCI adjuration.

Full Scope for some other agencies, particularly if you are in house.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DH had to take the polygraph 2x for TS/SCI. He got flustered about the pot question even though the last time he smoked was in college (35 years ago.) He admitted to it, but they thought he was hiding something, He wasn't. He took it again and passed. That was 10 years ago.


OP here. Yeah, the pot stuff is ridiculous. Their only way of catching you on that is the polygraph?

At what level do they even not do polygraph? Secret and below?

My (completely uninformed) guess is that for a low level clearance, you are ok saying you haven't done any in the last year because they have no other way of finding out. You could probably say you did it a few years ago without getting in too much trouble?

Most clearances - even TS’ don’t require polys. It more common in the Intel sector but not so much in the DoD or Civilian agencies. Not worth the costs.


this.

state grants ts but doesn't poly.

Anonymous
What if you haven't reported foreign travel (vacations) prior to the trip? I guess every agency is different, but I recall in 2015, the investigator didn't ask about my travel until it was time to renew my TS.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What if you haven't reported foreign travel (vacations) prior to the trip? I guess every agency is different, but I recall in 2015, the investigator didn't ask about my travel until it was time to renew my TS.


Your'e clueless... always request permission and report when you get back or you are risking your clearance. Every agency is different but always report and usually its fine but don't report and its a problem.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DH had to take the polygraph 2x for TS/SCI. He got flustered about the pot question even though the last time he smoked was in college (35 years ago.) He admitted to it, but they thought he was hiding something, He wasn't. He took it again and passed. That was 10 years ago.


OP here. Yeah, the pot stuff is ridiculous. Their only way of catching you on that is the polygraph?

At what level do they even not do polygraph? Secret and below?

My (completely uninformed) guess is that for a low level clearance, you are ok saying you haven't done any in the last year because they have no other way of finding out. You could probably say you did it a few years ago without getting in too much trouble?

Most clearances - even TS’ don’t require polys. It more common in the Intel sector but not so much in the DoD or Civilian agencies. Not worth the costs.


+1. I have TS/SCI with no polygraph. Varies by agency.
Anonymous
Question for you all.

I know a guy who broke up with his russian girlfriend because she wouldn't denounce her russian citizenship on his request. He was afraid he could lose his clearance, not sure if it was top secret or not. She has dual citizenship but didn't want to lose russian one because her parents are getting old and she wants to be able to visit them without issues. They dated for year or so, I thought that was an excuse to break up. Could dating someone with dual citizenship risk someone's clearance? What about being married to someone with dual?
Anonymous
I'm going to BS about not smoking weed in the last year

Wish me luck everyone
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Question for you all.

I know a guy who broke up with his russian girlfriend because she wouldn't denounce her russian citizenship on his request. He was afraid he could lose his clearance, not sure if it was top secret or not. She has dual citizenship but didn't want to lose russian one because her parents are getting old and she wants to be able to visit them without issues. They dated for year or so, I thought that was an excuse to break up. Could dating someone with dual citizenship risk someone's clearance? What about being married to someone with dual?


It depends on the agency, but yes, he may have needed to to keep his clearance.
Anonymous
I know foreign travel reporting for TS/SCI is required prior to the trip, but our FSO didn’t see too concerned with those with TS and below traveling international.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Question for you all.

I know a guy who broke up with his russian girlfriend because she wouldn't denounce her russian citizenship on his request. He was afraid he could lose his clearance, not sure if it was top secret or not. She has dual citizenship but didn't want to lose russian one because her parents are getting old and she wants to be able to visit them without issues. They dated for year or so, I thought that was an excuse to break up. Could dating someone with dual citizenship risk someone's clearance? What about being married to someone with dual?

Yes. You have to report any foreign friends. Being married would definitely be a bigger issue.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I know foreign travel reporting for TS/SCI is required prior to the trip, but our FSO didn’t see too concerned with those with TS and below traveling international.

It’s required at the TS level and above.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm going to BS about not smoking weed in the last year

Wish me luck everyone

The answer is always no. You’ll be fine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What if you haven't reported foreign travel (vacations) prior to the trip? I guess every agency is different, but I recall in 2015, the investigator didn't ask about my travel until it was time to renew my TS.


Ha! This happened to my DH when we went on a Disney Cruise. He had no clue their private island was in the Bahamas until the disembarkment announcement. When he filed the paperwork after he went back to work the security officer just laughed.
Anonymous
All of this hullabaloo is a big part of why I moved on from doing “the DC thing.”

For what it’s worth I did receive a secret clearance with extensive international travel and a then-boyfriend-now-husband from a less than friendly country.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What if you haven't reported foreign travel (vacations) prior to the trip? I guess every agency is different, but I recall in 2015, the investigator didn't ask about my travel until it was time to renew my TS.


Ha! This happened to my DH when we went on a Disney Cruise. He had no clue their private island was in the Bahamas until the disembarkment announcement. When he filed the paperwork after he went back to work the security officer just laughed.


How do you not pay attention to those things if you have a clearance? It is drilled into you.
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