Is FCPS freaking out about Amazon coming to town?

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Anonymous wrote:I think APS and FCPS will make changes as needed because there is really no way to predict where Amazon workers with kids will choose to live. Personally, I think they will mostly live in Arlington, in the part with the better schools because of commute.

Better schools would be FCPS over Arlington, and better commute in this case will be the blue or yellow lines.

Kingstown, Burke and West Springfield are the neighborhoods to watch here for families with kids.

I meant they will live in the part of Arlington that has better schools, I don’t know if it’s North or South Arlington. I wasn’t comparing aps and FCPS. It wouldn’t make sense to live in FCPS because of the commute.

The Alexandria part of Fairfax County is likely a better commute to Crystal City than the northern part of Arlington...

The immediate beneficiaries from a housing price standpoint are South Arlington and Alexandria...then South West Fairfax...

North Arlington is likely too expensive, and that commute would be awful...

Wishful thinking on your part.

I live in South East Fairfax (Alexandria)...I think that it'll be a net non event for my local schools and my area...Twain/Edison...

My friend owns a condo above the Harris teeter on Route 1...SHE is going to see an excellent bump in value...

The bulk of y'all are delusionally absurd. This just replaces the jobs from BRAC and the USPTO moving out of Crystal City...which was again, a relative non event...[if you weren't one of those ones who got moved]

When you consider the phased approaches, when combined with military moves...it's not going to be that big a deal except for the immediate surrounding area...

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Anonymous wrote:This is what I’m afraid of. We’re Western Fairfax, near Chantilly and Carson/ RRMS, with the silver line set to fully come on line. Chantilly, acarson, RRMs are over capacity. I’s love a housing price bumb, but I’m worried mid career tech folks with kids, especially Asian parents, move to Western Fairfax for the TJ feeders, good schools and decent housing prices. And we do not have capacity until there is a new HS.

People commuting to Crystal City are not going to choose Silver Line and Western Fairfax neighborhoods. Onesy twosies might, but most of them are going to end up along the blue and yellow lines. The ones who can afford private schools will look to places like Del Ray. The ones who want high performing schools are going to aim for West Springfield, Hayfield, South County and Lake Braddock. If fcps can commit to fixing Lee, it will be in the mix too.

WS and LB are going to be the schools people want. Hayfield and South County will also be desirable as the western schools due to commute.

Silver line becomes the blue and orange lines directly to CC. And 20 somethings wouldn’t choose it. But couple with kids might well. SHHs are still affordable, and the schools are excellent TJ feeders. And there is still land for more development. You think Indian tech workers who more into this area won’t put their kids in the schools that feed TJ?

This is actually interesting. I have been assuming that all Amazon workers are young and millenials but maybe alot of Indians are coming as well. My observation is that Indians stay with other Indians (nothing negative here. I think it's a good thing), and Herndon and Reston have already significant Indian population. Reston even has a direct express bus to Crystal city in addition to the silver line. So yeah I see why you are concerned. More reason to build that western high school

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Anonymous wrote:I guess they have a few years to raise taxes on the residents and build more schools. Only 400 employees expected in 2019. Only 1200 employees added in 2020. So, FCPS has at least a few years to tax and build.

FCPS has no taxing authority.

Correct. FC tried to get a sales tax (or a tax on food, can't remember the specifics) in the last few years. That would have gone to funding schools. Many other jurisdictions have this particular tax. But, it was voted down.

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Voted down by the old people who have more time on their hands than the young families, unfortunately.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess they have a few years to raise taxes on the residents and build more schools. Only 400 employees expected in 2019. Only 1200 employees added in 2020. So, FCPS has at least a few years to tax and build.

FCPS has no taxing authority.

Correct. FC tried to get a sales tax (or a tax on food, can't remember the specifics) in the last few years. That would have gone to funding schools. Many other jurisdictions have this particular tax. But, it was voted down.

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Voted down by the old people who have more time on their hands than the young families, unfortunately.

I had friends who voted against it but then wanted to give tax breaks to military widows that owned property here but live in Florida.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess they have a few years to raise taxes on the residents and build more schools. Only 400 employees expected in 2019. Only 1200 employees added in 2020. So, FCPS has at least a few years to tax and build.

FCPS has no taxing authority.

Correct. FC tried to get a sales tax (or a tax on food, can't remember the specifics) in the last few years. That would have gone to funding schools. Many other jurisdictions have this particular tax. But, it was voted down.

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Voted down by the old people who have more time on their hands than the young families, unfortunately.

I had friends who voted against it but then wanted to give tax breaks to military widows that owned property here but live in Florida.

Lol That one keeps showing up on the ballot. It just doesn't seem to pass.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what I’m afraid of. We’re Western Fairfax, near Chantilly and Carson/ RRMS, with the silver line set to fully come on line. Chantilly, acarson, RRMs are over capacity. I’s love a housing price bumb, but I’m worried mid career tech folks with kids, especially Asian parents, move to Western Fairfax for the TJ feeders, good schools and decent housing prices. And we do not have capacity until there is a new HS.

TJ has 30% out-of-county students and its enrollment as a Governor's School is capped by VA at @1800 kids. Converting it back to a neighborhood school with a typical enrollment would create about 1000 spaces for county students.

FCPS should do a county-wide redistricting, shifting kids to more of the under-enrolled schools in SE Fairfax. The boundaries would be adjusted again when the new western high school is opened.

If you knew anything about TJ, you would know that this is not true. The redesign was for the 1800 kids. There is no space for an extra 1000 kids. And the redesign has all sorts of specialized modifications that a typical high school would not use. It’s redesign was specific to TJ needs.

Plus, TJ is part of what draws highly educated parents to work in the tech sector. No one is getting rid of it at a time when NOVA needs to attract these tech workers.

Any modifications would be less expensive than building a brand-new facility. And I think you greatly exaggerate TJ's importance in attracting tech to NoVa. MoCo has the Blair and Poolesville magnets and the tech firms still move elsewhere.

Granted, TJHSST was created primarily for marketing, rather than educational, purposes, but the continued justification for a specialized magnet in a STEM-heavy region disappeared years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what I’m afraid of. We’re Western Fairfax, near Chantilly and Carson/ RRMS, with the silver line set to fully come on line. Chantilly, acarson, RRMs are over capacity. I’s love a housing price bumb, but I’m worried mid career tech folks with kids, especially Asian parents, move to Western Fairfax for the TJ feeders, good schools and decent housing prices. And we do not have capacity until there is a new HS.

TJ has 30% out-of-county students and its enrollment as a Governor's School is capped by VA at @1800 kids. Converting it back to a neighborhood school with a typical enrollment would create about 1000 spaces for county students.

FCPS should do a county-wide redistricting, shifting kids to more of the under-enrolled schools in SE Fairfax. The boundaries would be adjusted again when the new western high school is opened.

If you knew anything about TJ, you would know that this is not true. The redesign was for the 1800 kids. There is no space for an extra 1000 kids. And the redesign has all sorts of specialized modifications that a typical high school would not use. It’s redesign was specific to TJ needs.

Plus, TJ is part of what draws highly educated parents to work in the tech sector. No one is getting rid of it at a time when NOVA needs to attract these tech workers.

Any modifications would be less expensive than building a brand-new facility. And I think you greatly exaggerate TJ's importance in attracting tech to NoVa. MoCo has the Blair and Poolesville magnets and the tech firms still move elsewhere.

Granted, TJHSST was created primarily for marketing, rather than educational, purposes, but the continued justification for a specialized magnet in a STEM-heavy region disappeared years ago.

DP. TJ has a nationally recognized name. I don't really understand why some people want to get rid of it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what I’m afraid of. We’re Western Fairfax, near Chantilly and Carson/ RRMS, with the silver line set to fully come on line. Chantilly, acarson, RRMs are over capacity. I’s love a housing price bumb, but I’m worried mid career tech folks with kids, especially Asian parents, move to Western Fairfax for the TJ feeders, good schools and decent housing prices. And we do not have capacity until there is a new HS.

TJ has 30% out-of-county students and its enrollment as a Governor's School is capped by VA at @1800 kids. Converting it back to a neighborhood school with a typical enrollment would create about 1000 spaces for county students.

FCPS should do a county-wide redistricting, shifting kids to more of the under-enrolled schools in SE Fairfax. The boundaries would be adjusted again when the new western high school is opened.

If you knew anything about TJ, you would know that this is not true. The redesign was for the 1800 kids. There is no space for an extra 1000 kids. And the redesign has all sorts of specialized modifications that a typical high school would not use. It’s redesign was specific to TJ needs.

Plus, TJ is part of what draws highly educated parents to work in the tech sector. No one is getting rid of it at a time when NOVA needs to attract these tech workers.

Any modifications would be less expensive than building a brand-new facility. And I think you greatly exaggerate TJ's importance in attracting tech to NoVa. MoCo has the Blair and Poolesville magnets and the tech firms still move elsewhere.

Granted, TJHSST was created primarily for marketing, rather than educational, purposes, but the continued justification for a specialized magnet in a STEM-heavy region disappeared years ago.

DP. TJ has a nationally recognized name. I don't really understand why some people want to get rid of it.

Why do people hate on TJ? Isn't it the #1 ranked STEM high school in the country? Shouldn't the area be proud to have it here?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what I’m afraid of. We’re Western Fairfax, near Chantilly and Carson/ RRMS, with the silver line set to fully come on line. Chantilly, acarson, RRMs are over capacity. I’s love a housing price bumb, but I’m worried mid career tech folks with kids, especially Asian parents, move to Western Fairfax for the TJ feeders, good schools and decent housing prices. And we do not have capacity until there is a new HS.

TJ has 30% out-of-county students and its enrollment as a Governor's School is capped by VA at @1800 kids. Converting it back to a neighborhood school with a typical enrollment would create about 1000 spaces for county students.

FCPS should do a county-wide redistricting, shifting kids to more of the under-enrolled schools in SE Fairfax. The boundaries would be adjusted again when the new western high school is opened.

If you knew anything about TJ, you would know that this is not true. The redesign was for the 1800 kids. There is no space for an extra 1000 kids. And the redesign has all sorts of specialized modifications that a typical high school would not use. It’s redesign was specific to TJ needs.

Plus, TJ is part of what draws highly educated parents to work in the tech sector. No one is getting rid of it at a time when NOVA needs to attract these tech workers.

Any modifications would be less expensive than building a brand-new facility. And I think you greatly exaggerate TJ's importance in attracting tech to NoVa. MoCo has the Blair and Poolesville magnets and the tech firms still move elsewhere.

Granted, TJHSST was created primarily for marketing, rather than educational, purposes, but the continued justification for a specialized magnet in a STEM-heavy region disappeared years ago.

DP. TJ has a nationally recognized name. I don't really understand why some people want to get rid of it.

Why do people hate on TJ? Isn't it the #1 ranked STEM high school in the country? Shouldn't the area be proud to have it here?

Sour grapes. Most kids their apply don’t get in. Their parents get bitter and can’t cope. And I say that as someone who had one kid get in and one who was a finalist and did not. TJ kid is fine. Non TJ kid is fine. It’s all good. But you can’t pretend TJ isn’t special. It is. And just because your kid, or one of your kids (like mine) don’t directly benefit doesn’t mean it’s not a school that puts FCPS on the map and gives kids who attend an amazing education.

[Anonymous]

Well, right now at least FCPS is freaking out about a chance of up to an inch of snow in some areas. Clearly Worth freaking out about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, they have been freaking out for months. Crystal City is better than out by Dulles though. And half is better too.

I would think out by Dulles is better (i.e., cheaper housing, less traffic, etc.)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what I’m afraid of. We’re Western Fairfax, near Chantilly and Carson/ RRMS, with the silver line set to fully come on line. Chantilly, acarson, RRMs are over capacity. I’s love a housing price bumb, but I’m worried mid career tech folks with kids, especially Asian parents, move to Western Fairfax for the TJ feeders, good schools and decent housing prices. And we do not have capacity until there is a new HS.

TJ has 30% out-of-county students and its enrollment as a Governor's School is capped by VA at @1800 kids. Converting it back to a neighborhood school with a typical enrollment would create about 1000 spaces for county students.

FCPS should do a county-wide redistricting, shifting kids to more of the under-enrolled schools in SE Fairfax. The boundaries would be adjusted again when the new western high school is opened.

If you knew anything about TJ, you would know that this is not true. The redesign was for the 1800 kids. There is no space for an extra 1000 kids. And the redesign has all sorts of specialized modifications that a typical high school would not use. It’s redesign was specific to TJ needs.

Plus, TJ is part of what draws highly educated parents to work in the tech sector. No one is getting rid of it at a time when NOVA needs to attract these tech workers.

Any modifications would be less expensive than building a brand-new facility. And I think you greatly exaggerate TJ's importance in attracting tech to NoVa. MoCo has the Blair and Poolesville magnets and the tech firms still move elsewhere.

Granted, TJHSST was created primarily for marketing, rather than educational, purposes, but the continued justification for a specialized magnet in a STEM-heavy region disappeared years ago.

DP. TJ has a nationally recognized name. I don't really understand why some people want to get rid of it.

Why do people hate on TJ? Isn't it the #1 ranked STEM high school in the country? Shouldn't the area be proud to have it here?

They hate TJ because their kids were not accepted.

If I can'r have TJ, then no one should have TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what I’m afraid of. We’re Western Fairfax, near Chantilly and Carson/ RRMS, with the silver line set to fully come on line. Chantilly, acarson, RRMs are over capacity. I’s love a housing price bumb, but I’m worried mid career tech folks with kids, especially Asian parents, move to Western Fairfax for the TJ feeders, good schools and decent housing prices. And we do not have capacity until there is a new HS.

TJ has 30% out-of-county students and its enrollment as a Governor's School is capped by VA at @1800 kids. Converting it back to a neighborhood school with a typical enrollment would create about 1000 spaces for county students.

FCPS should do a county-wide redistricting, shifting kids to more of the under-enrolled schools in SE Fairfax. The boundaries would be adjusted again when the new western high school is opened.

If you knew anything about TJ, you would know that this is not true. The redesign was for the 1800 kids. There is no space for an extra 1000 kids. And the redesign has all sorts of specialized modifications that a typical high school would not use. It’s redesign was specific to TJ needs.

Plus, TJ is part of what draws highly educated parents to work in the tech sector. No one is getting rid of it at a time when NOVA needs to attract these tech workers.

Any modifications would be less expensive than building a brand-new facility. And I think you greatly exaggerate TJ's importance in attracting tech to NoVa. MoCo has the Blair and Poolesville magnets and the tech firms still move elsewhere.

Granted, TJHSST was created primarily for marketing, rather than educational, purposes, but the continued justification for a specialized magnet in a STEM-heavy region disappeared years ago.

DP. TJ has a nationally recognized name. I don't really understand why some people want to get rid of it.

Why do people hate on TJ? Isn't it the #1 ranked STEM high school in the country? Shouldn't the area be proud to have it here?

Why should people be especially proud about one school that is not representative of the county as a whole, is a brain drain on other schools, and forces other students to attend schools that are overcrowded and/or further from their homes? It’s like saying the US should be proud of having a few billionaires even if many others live in abject poverty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what I’m afraid of. We’re Western Fairfax, near Chantilly and Carson/ RRMS, with the silver line set to fully come on line. Chantilly, acarson, RRMs are over capacity. I’s love a housing price bumb, but I’m worried mid career tech folks with kids, especially Asian parents, move to Western Fairfax for the TJ feeders, good schools and decent housing prices. And we do not have capacity until there is a new HS.

TJ has 30% out-of-county students and its enrollment as a Governor's School is capped by VA at @1800 kids. Converting it back to a neighborhood school with a typical enrollment would create about 1000 spaces for county students.

FCPS should do a county-wide redistricting, shifting kids to more of the under-enrolled schools in SE Fairfax. The boundaries would be adjusted again when the new western high school is opened.

If you knew anything about TJ, you would know that this is not true. The redesign was for the 1800 kids. There is no space for an extra 1000 kids. And the redesign has all sorts of specialized modifications that a typical high school would not use. It’s redesign was specific to TJ needs.

Plus, TJ is part of what draws highly educated parents to work in the tech sector. No one is getting rid of it at a time when NOVA needs to attract these tech workers.

Any modifications would be less expensive than building a brand-new facility. And I think you greatly exaggerate TJ's importance in attracting tech to NoVa. MoCo has the Blair and Poolesville magnets and the tech firms still move elsewhere.

Granted, TJHSST was created primarily for marketing, rather than educational, purposes, but the continued justification for a specialized magnet in a STEM-heavy region disappeared years ago.

DP. TJ has a nationally recognized name. I don't really understand why some people want to get rid of it.

Why do people hate on TJ? Isn't it the #1 ranked STEM high school in the country? Shouldn't the area be proud to have it here?

They hate TJ because their kids were not accepted.

If I can'r have TJ, then no one should have TJ.

What a brilliant analysis (not).

[Anonymous]

Why do people hate on TJ? Isn't it the #1 ranked STEM high school in the country? Shouldn't the area be proud to have it here?


They hate TJ because their kids were not accepted.

If I can'r have TJ, then no one should have TJ.

Or perhaps they don't think it's fair that their taxpayer's dollars go to a public school where each pupil gets more dollars than average. Their school day is longer, they get extra classes in the summers, extra after-school activities--it's a private-school education for free, all on the backs of the taxpayers. Then, they all apply to UVA and William and Mary, even though most of them could get into Ivies, and bump other kids (who didn't get all those freebies) out of the running for those college slots.