Is FCPS freaking out about Amazon coming to town?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess they have a few years to raise taxes on the residents and build more schools. Only 400 employees expected in 2019. Only 1200 employees added in 2020. So, FCPS has at least a few years to tax and build.

FCPS has no taxing authority.

Correct. FC tried to get a sales tax (or a tax on food, can't remember the specifics) in the last few years. That would have gone to funding schools. Many other jurisdictions have this particular tax. But, it was voted down.

and thank goodness it was voted down, because the School Board is not a good steward of taxpayer funds. Why should bonds for new construction be issued when some schools have more capacity than students? What needs to happen is large scale redistricting, but the Board won’t do it because it would be politically unpopular.

This is a lie perpetrated by the far right in our county. The School Board and our County Board are extremely good stewards of our taxpayer funds. They get much better results than our neighbors with much less money. Period. Our taxes are low when compared to similar districts across the country. Good schools and good services cost money.

Please provide some data or facts to support this assertion. There have been two internal audits of the contracting at FCPS in the past five years that have identified egregious failures in requiring competition for contracts. The ERFC (supplemental pension progrram for FCPS teachers) has costs that are approximately twice as high as those of the County pension system and more than 12 times as high as the best in class public pensions (e.g. State of Nevada). FCPS special needs programs and services are significantly more costly than almost all of our neighboring peers. FCPS teachers retire with a pension that is increased at 3% every year (while County employees get CPI which has averageed 1.6%/yr over the past ten years).

Please provide one piece of data that supports your assertion - and btw, I'm a Democrat.

look at the per student cost compared to Arlington, Montgomery County and DC.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what I’m afraid of. We’re Western Fairfax, near Chantilly and Carson/ RRMS, with the silver line set to fully come on line. Chantilly, acarson, RRMs are over capacity. I’s love a housing price bumb, but I’m worried mid career tech folks with kids, especially Asian parents, move to Western Fairfax for the TJ feeders, good schools and decent housing prices. And we do not have capacity until there is a new HS.

People commuting to Crystal City are not going to choose Silver Line and Western Fairfax neighborhoods. Onesy twosies might, but most of them are going to end up along the blue and yellow lines. The ones who can afford private schools will look to places like Del Ray. The ones who want high performing schools are going to aim for West Springfield, Hayfield, South County and Lake Braddock. If fcps can commit to fixing Lee, it will be in the mix too.

WS and LB are going to be the schools people want. Hayfield and South County will also be desirable as the western schools due to commute.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is what I’m afraid of. We’re Western Fairfax, near Chantilly and Carson/ RRMS, with the silver line set to fully come on line. Chantilly, acarson, RRMs are over capacity. I’s love a housing price bumb, but I’m worried mid career tech folks with kids, especially Asian parents, move to Western Fairfax for the TJ feeders, good schools and decent housing prices. And we do not have capacity until there is a new HS.

People commuting to Crystal City are not going to choose Silver Line and Western Fairfax neighborhoods. Onesy twosies might, but most of them are going to end up along the blue and yellow lines. The ones who can afford private schools will look to places like Del Ray. The ones who want high performing schools are going to aim for West Springfield, Hayfield, South County and Lake Braddock. If fcps can commit to fixing Lee, it will be in the mix too.

WS and LB are going to be the schools people want. Hayfield and South County will also be desirable as the western schools due to commute.

If these jobs are in STEM, the families will want the FCPS pyramids with strong AAP centers that send lots of kids to TJ. That includes Langley, McLean, Oakton and, if they can stomach the commute, Chantilly. Lake Braddock is also a possibility, although its AAP Center punches below its weight in terms of TJ admissions.

We heard before about how Springfield Town Center was going to turn Lee into the next Marshall. Didn't happen.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what I’m afraid of. We’re Western Fairfax, near Chantilly and Carson/ RRMS, with the silver line set to fully come on line. Chantilly, acarson, RRMs are over capacity. I’s love a housing price bumb, but I’m worried mid career tech folks with kids, especially Asian parents, move to Western Fairfax for the TJ feeders, good schools and decent housing prices. And we do not have capacity until there is a new HS.

People commuting to Crystal City are not going to choose Silver Line and Western Fairfax neighborhoods. Onesy twosies might, but most of them are going to end up along the blue and yellow lines. The ones who can afford private schools will look to places like Del Ray. The ones who want high performing schools are going to aim for West Springfield, Hayfield, South County and Lake Braddock. If fcps can commit to fixing Lee, it will be in the mix too.

WS and LB are going to be the schools people want. Hayfield and South County will also be desirable as the western schools due to commute.

If these jobs are in STEM, the families will want the FCPS pyramids with strong AAP centers that send lots of kids to TJ. That includes Langley, McLean, Oakton and, if they can stomach the commute, Chantilly. Lake Braddock is also a possibility, although its AAP Center punches below its weight in terms of TJ admissions.

We heard before about how Springfield Town Center was going to turn Lee into the next Marshall. Didn't happen.

A bit off-topic--but I think that's because 1)it's a secondary school and kids are disinclined to leave a familiar school for TJ vs kids in a middle school who have to switch schools anyway and 2) a good portion of the AAP center eligible kids go to Robinson instead of the center for the same not wanting to switch secondary school mid-way reason.

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Anonymous wrote:I think APS and FCPS will make changes as needed because there is really no way to predict where Amazon workers with kids will choose to live. Personally, I think they will mostly live in Arlington, in the part with the better schools because of commute.

Better schools would be FCPS over Arlington, and better commute in this case will be the blue or yellow lines.

Kingstown, Burke and West Springfield are the neighborhoods to watch here for families with kids.

I meant they will live in the part of Arlington that has better schools, I don’t know if it’s North or South Arlington. I wasn’t comparing aps and FCPS. It wouldn’t make sense to live in FCPS because of the commute.

The Alexandria part of Fairfax County is likely a better commute to Crystal City than the northern part of Arlington...

The immediate beneficiaries from a housing price standpoint are South Arlington and Alexandria...then South West Fairfax...

North Arlington is likely too expensive, and that commute would be awful...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think APS and FCPS will make changes as needed because there is really no way to predict where Amazon workers with kids will choose to live. Personally, I think they will mostly live in Arlington, in the part with the better schools because of commute.

Better schools would be FCPS over Arlington, and better commute in this case will be the blue or yellow lines.

Kingstown, Burke and West Springfield are the neighborhoods to watch here for families with kids.

I meant they will live in the part of Arlington that has better schools, I don’t know if it’s North or South Arlington. I wasn’t comparing aps and FCPS. It wouldn’t make sense to live in FCPS because of the commute.

The Alexandria part of Fairfax County is likely a better commute to Crystal City than the northern part of Arlington...

The immediate beneficiaries from a housing price standpoint are South Arlington and Alexandria...then South West Fairfax...

North Arlington is likely too expensive, and that commute would be awful...

I mean South East Fairfax

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think APS and FCPS will make changes as needed because there is really no way to predict where Amazon workers with kids will choose to live. Personally, I think they will mostly live in Arlington, in the part with the better schools because of commute.

Better schools would be FCPS over Arlington, and better commute in this case will be the blue or yellow lines.

Kingstown, Burke and West Springfield are the neighborhoods to watch here for families with kids.

I meant they will live in the part of Arlington that has better schools, I don’t know if it’s North or South Arlington. I wasn’t comparing aps and FCPS. It wouldn’t make sense to live in FCPS because of the commute.

The Alexandria part of Fairfax County is likely a better commute to Crystal City than the northern part of Arlington...

The immediate beneficiaries from a housing price standpoint are South Arlington and Alexandria...then South West Fairfax...

North Arlington is likely too expensive, and that commute would be awful...

Wishful thinking on your part.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what I’m afraid of. We’re Western Fairfax, near Chantilly and Carson/ RRMS, with the silver line set to fully come on line. Chantilly, acarson, RRMs are over capacity. I’s love a housing price bumb, but I’m worried mid career tech folks with kids, especially Asian parents, move to Western Fairfax for the TJ feeders, good schools and decent housing prices. And we do not have capacity until there is a new HS.

NO ONE is going to move here, and look at living in Chantilly...and working in Crystal City...LMAO

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think APS and FCPS will make changes as needed because there is really no way to predict where Amazon workers with kids will choose to live. Personally, I think they will mostly live in Arlington, in the part with the better schools because of commute.

Better schools would be FCPS over Arlington, and better commute in this case will be the blue or yellow lines.

Kingstown, Burke and West Springfield are the neighborhoods to watch here for families with kids.

I meant they will live in the part of Arlington that has better schools, I don’t know if it’s North or South Arlington. I wasn’t comparing aps and FCPS. It wouldn’t make sense to live in FCPS because of the commute.

The Alexandria part of Fairfax County is likely a better commute to Crystal City than the northern part of Arlington...

The immediate beneficiaries from a housing price standpoint are South Arlington and Alexandria...then South West Fairfax...

North Arlington is likely too expensive, and that commute would be awful...

Wishful thinking on your part.

I live in South East Fairfax (Alexandria)...I think that it'll be a net non event for my local schools and my area...Twain/Edison...

My friend owns a condo above the Harris teeter on Route 1...SHE is going to see an excellent bump in value...

The bulk of y'all are delusionally absurd. This just replaces the jobs from BRAC and the USPTO moving out of Crystal City...which was again, a relative non event...[if you weren't one of those ones who got moved]

When you consider the phased approaches, when combined with military moves...it's not going to be that big a deal except for the immediate surrounding area...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is what I’m afraid of. We’re Western Fairfax, near Chantilly and Carson/ RRMS, with the silver line set to fully come on line. Chantilly, acarson, RRMs are over capacity. I’s love a housing price bumb, but I’m worried mid career tech folks with kids, especially Asian parents, move to Western Fairfax for the TJ feeders, good schools and decent housing prices. And we do not have capacity until there is a new HS.

TJ has 30% out-of-county students and its enrollment as a Governor's School is capped by VA at @1800 kids. Converting it back to a neighborhood school with a typical enrollment would create about 1000 spaces for county students.

FCPS should do a county-wide redistricting, shifting kids to more of the under-enrolled schools in SE Fairfax. The boundaries would be adjusted again when the new western high school is opened.

If you knew anything about TJ, you would know that this is not true. The redesign was for the 1800 kids. There is no space for an extra 1000 kids. And the redesign has all sorts of specialized modifications that a typical high school would not use. It’s redesign was specific to TJ needs.

Plus, TJ is part of what draws highly educated parents to work in the tech sector. No one is getting rid of it at a time when NOVA needs to attract these tech workers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is what I’m afraid of. We’re Western Fairfax, near Chantilly and Carson/ RRMS, with the silver line set to fully come on line. Chantilly, acarson, RRMs are over capacity. I’s love a housing price bumb, but I’m worried mid career tech folks with kids, especially Asian parents, move to Western Fairfax for the TJ feeders, good schools and decent housing prices. And we do not have capacity until there is a new HS.

People commuting to Crystal City are not going to choose Silver Line and Western Fairfax neighborhoods. Onesy twosies might, but most of them are going to end up along the blue and yellow lines. The ones who can afford private schools will look to places like Del Ray. The ones who want high performing schools are going to aim for West Springfield, Hayfield, South County and Lake Braddock. If fcps can commit to fixing Lee, it will be in the mix too.

WS and LB are going to be the schools people want. Hayfield and South County will also be desirable as the western schools due to commute.

Silver line becomes the blue and orange lines directly to CC. And 20 somethings wouldn’t choose it. But couple with kids might well. SHHs are still affordable, and the schools are excellent TJ feeders. And there is still land for more development. You think Indian tech workers who more into this area won’t put their kids in the schools that feed TJ?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think APS and FCPS will make changes as needed because there is really no way to predict where Amazon workers with kids will choose to live. Personally, I think they will mostly live in Arlington, in the part with the better schools because of commute.

Better schools would be FCPS over Arlington, and better commute in this case will be the blue or yellow lines.

Kingstown, Burke and West Springfield are the neighborhoods to watch here for families with kids.

I meant they will live in the part of Arlington that has better schools, I don’t know if it’s North or South Arlington. I wasn’t comparing aps and FCPS. It wouldn’t make sense to live in FCPS because of the commute.

The Alexandria part of Fairfax County is likely a better commute to Crystal City than the northern part of Arlington...

The immediate beneficiaries from a housing price standpoint are South Arlington and Alexandria...then South West Fairfax...

North Arlington is likely too expensive, and that commute would be awful...

Except ACPS sucks. And even if Amazon pays well, buying a house there, plus private school is probably out of reach.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what I’m afraid of. We’re Western Fairfax, near Chantilly and Carson/ RRMS, with the silver line set to fully come on line. Chantilly, acarson, RRMs are over capacity. I’s love a housing price bumb, but I’m worried mid career tech folks with kids, especially Asian parents, move to Western Fairfax for the TJ feeders, good schools and decent housing prices. And we do not have capacity until there is a new HS.

NO ONE is going to move here, and look at living in Chantilly...and working in Crystal City...LMAO

Uhhhhh. Hello silver line. Wiele (silver line) to CC is a 40-45 minute metro commute. And a new station at the hernon and 267 intersection will be open in the next 18 months. That is not insane by the standards of this area.

Sure, there are closer place to live. But how many have place where you can send kids to excellent schools K-12, have strong AAP Cemters with TJ feeders, and buy a decent SFH for under 600k? McLean and Langley are not exactly affordable on a 100k salary. Younger workers don’t have to worry about schools and will rent closer. But for families with kids? Some parents will brave South Arlington or E FCPS or ACPS schools. But Asian parents focused on academic achievement wont.

And a lot of tech workers are (checks notes). Asian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think APS and FCPS will make changes as needed because there is really no way to predict where Amazon workers with kids will choose to live. Personally, I think they will mostly live in Arlington, in the part with the better schools because of commute.

Better schools would be FCPS over Arlington, and better commute in this case will be the blue or yellow lines.

Kingstown, Burke and West Springfield are the neighborhoods to watch here for families with kids.

I meant they will live in the part of Arlington that has better schools, I don’t know if it’s North or South Arlington. I wasn’t comparing aps and FCPS. It wouldn’t make sense to live in FCPS because of the commute.

The Alexandria part of Fairfax County is likely a better commute to Crystal City than the northern part of Arlington...

The immediate beneficiaries from a housing price standpoint are South Arlington and Alexandria...then South West Fairfax...

North Arlington is likely too expensive, and that commute would be awful...

I live in NA and have worked in Crystal City for years. The commute is very easy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think APS and FCPS will make changes as needed because there is really no way to predict where Amazon workers with kids will choose to live. Personally, I think they will mostly live in Arlington, in the part with the better schools because of commute.

Better schools would be FCPS over Arlington, and better commute in this case will be the blue or yellow lines.

Kingstown, Burke and West Springfield are the neighborhoods to watch here for families with kids.

I meant they will live in the part of Arlington that has better schools, I don’t know if it’s North or South Arlington. I wasn’t comparing aps and FCPS. It wouldn’t make sense to live in FCPS because of the commute.

The Alexandria part of Fairfax County is likely a better commute to Crystal City than the northern part of Arlington...

The immediate beneficiaries from a housing price standpoint are South Arlington and Alexandria...then South West Fairfax...

North Arlington is likely too expensive, and that commute would be awful...

Wishful thinking on your part.

I live in South East Fairfax (Alexandria)...I think that it'll be a net non event for my local schools and my area...Twain/Edison...

My friend owns a condo above the Harris teeter on Route 1...SHE is going to see an excellent bump in value...

The bulk of y'all are delusionally absurd. This just replaces the jobs from BRAC and the USPTO moving out of Crystal City...which was again, a relative non event...[if you weren't one of those ones who got moved]

When you consider the phased approaches, when combined with military moves...it's not going to be that big a deal except for the immediate surrounding area...

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