Comparing Silver Spring and Arlington

[Anonymous]

sorry, that should say Takoma Park/Piney Branch ES.

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You have no idea what you are talking about. I work in the industry and trust me we are doing fine with Discovery leaving.

Further, a developer just brought the Discovery building for $70 million and is doing $30 million of renovations so you can just stop with your sky is falling post. I'm tired of your agenda and am reporting you to Jeff.

Excuse me but you are the one with the agenda. I hate to see anyone, let alone a single mother being mislead about such a substantial investment. I am more than happy to provide additional sources too not just insults to posters who do not agree with me. I have lived in several areas in MD, my DH lived in Arlington years ago and we've lived in other states as well. We have a pretty good handle on what is going on.

There is serious concern about Silver Spring with Discovery's departure. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/capitalbusiness/discoverys-departure-is-shot-across-the-bow-for-silver-spring-state-and-region/2018/01/12/fb11452e-f6fe-11e7-b34a-b85626af34ef_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.62b0c2674f3b.

You can go look at houses in the Clarendon, Courthouse and North Arlington areas to see what they were selling for in 2005 and what those same houses sold for in 2017/2018 then compare that Silver Spring.

Cool. So I guess OP can get in her time machine and buy one then? You’re derailing the whole damn thread!

[Anonymous]

OP, the Thanksgiving parade is in Silver Spring next weekend. Just FYI in case you want to either come and experience it or avoid the road closures! https://www.silverspringdowntown.com/montgomery-county-thanksgiving-parade

[Anonymous]

Thank you, PP. I have the day off on Monday but have childcare, so I am going to use part of the day to drive around Silver Spring and Takoma Park (childfree!). And then the next task will be finding preschool when we’re not on a wait list anywhere!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you, PP. I have the day off on Monday but have childcare, so I am going to use part of the day to drive around Silver Spring and Takoma Park (childfree!). And then the next task will be finding preschool when we’re not on a wait list anywhere!

Check our the preschool at the Silver Spring YMCA. It was great for our family.

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The schools matter to me A LOT, and as much as I’m skeptical of the Great Schools ratings, it’s all I have to go on. They are generally good for Silver Spring. Montgomery Blair and James Hubert Blake are both 6s. Einstein is a 5

Blair's poor performance is masked because there us a magnet that pulls in the best students from many schools, including the top performers. The general ed program is not good even though many non-magnet posters pretend to ride on the coat tails of the magnet students. If schools are very important to you, I don't know why you would consider the worst schools in MCPS.

No school in the area can match Blair academic achievements, no school!

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, PP. I have the day off on Monday but have childcare, so I am going to use part of the day to drive around Silver Spring and Takoma Park (childfree!). And then the next task will be finding preschool when we’re not on a wait list anywhere!

Check our the preschool at the Silver Spring YMCA. It was great for our family.

SSDS is another terrific preschool. And right across the street from Blair.

https://silverspringdayschool.org/program-descriptions/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You have no idea what you are talking about. I work in the industry and trust me we are doing fine with Discovery leaving.

Further, a developer just brought the Discovery building for $70 million and is doing $30 million of renovations so you can just stop with your sky is falling post. I'm tired of your agenda and am reporting you to Jeff.

Excuse me but you are the one with the agenda. I hate to see anyone, let alone a single mother being mislead about such a substantial investment. I am more than happy to provide additional sources too not just insults to posters who do not agree with me. I have lived in several areas in MD, my DH lived in Arlington years ago and we've lived in other states as well. We have a pretty good handle on what is going on.

There is serious concern about Silver Spring with Discovery's departure. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/capitalbusiness/discoverys-departure-is-shot-across-the-bow-for-silver-spring-state-and-region/2018/01/12/fb11452e-f6fe-11e7-b34a-b85626af34ef_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.62b0c2674f3b.

You can go look at houses in the Clarendon, Courthouse and North Arlington areas to see what they were selling for in 2005 and what those same houses sold for in 2017/2018 then compare that Silver Spring.

This is an old article before the developer invested $100 million in the building and before amazon announced its move to the area (at least informally). This will help any of the small editing houses in the area since amazon is heavily investing in tv.

Discovery had 1300 people in the building and around 200 are staying. To say that the departure of 1100 people will sink SS is laughable. Discovery was important to the development of DTSS 15 years ago but it is now a major transportation hub with lots of companies and obviously is very close to jobs in DC. Look at the apartments SFG neighborhoods around the DTSS. Sorry your info is old and outdated.

Anyway sounds like OP is moving to my hood, Takoma Park. Welcome OP!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

You have no idea what you are talking about. I work in the industry and trust me we are doing fine with Discovery leaving.

Further, a developer just brought the Discovery building for $70 million and is doing $30 million of renovations so you can just stop with your sky is falling post. I'm tired of your agenda and am reporting you to Jeff.

Excuse me but you are the one with the agenda. I hate to see anyone, let alone a single mother being mislead about such a substantial investment. I am more than happy to provide additional sources too not just insults to posters who do not agree with me. I have lived in several areas in MD, my DH lived in Arlington years ago and we've lived in other states as well. We have a pretty good handle on what is going on.

There is serious concern about Silver Spring with Discovery's departure. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/capitalbusiness/discoverys-departure-is-shot-across-the-bow-for-silver-spring-state-and-region/2018/01/12/fb11452e-f6fe-11e7-b34a-b85626af34ef_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.62b0c2674f3b.

You can go look at houses in the Clarendon, Courthouse and North Arlington areas to see what they were selling for in 2005 and what those same houses sold for in 2017/2018 then compare that Silver Spring.

This is an old article before the developer invested $100 million in the building and before amazon announced its move to the area (at least informally). This will help any of the small editing houses in the area since amazon is heavily investing in tv.

Discovery had 1300 people in the building and around 200 are staying. To say that the departure of 1100 people will sink SS is laughable. Discovery was important to the development of DTSS 15 years ago but it is now a major transportation hub with lots of companies and obviously is very close to jobs in DC. Look at the apartments SFG neighborhoods around the DTSS. Sorry your info is old and outdated.

Anyway sounds like OP is moving to my hood, Takoma Park. Welcome OP!

Sorry I misread- looks like you are visiting both areas - enjoy your visit! Both great areas and great to raise families in.

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP. I appreciate all of the input. Only folks who know both Silver Spring and Arlington will be able to answer this but is Silver Spring thought of as “similar” (in demographics and school quality) to south Arlington and Bethesda/Chevy Chase is thought of as similar to North Arlington (whiter, wealthier, schools with higher Great Schools ratings)?

The schools matter to me A LOT, and as much as I’m skeptical of the Great Schools ratings, it’s all I have to go on. They are generally good for Silver Spring. Montgomery Blair and James Hubert Blake are both 6s. Einstein is a 5.

I live in Arlington, but I grew up in Kensington. I don't think that South Arlington and Silver Spring are really that comparable. I think that BCC is similar to W&L. I would not send my child to BCC (my brother went there and it was a joke), and I wouldn't be thrilled to send my child to W&L. I would not send my child to Blair or Einstein or any high school in Silver Spring. There is just too much gang activity in SS for me to be comfortable with. It's pretty much impossible to get a SFH in S. Arlington for under $500k now, and there are plenty of places over $1m.

STFU there is no gang activity. I'm so sick of the trolls !!

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Anonymous wrote:
OP - I would 100% go for W&L.

I cry when I look at the appreciation in Arlington for houses since 2005 compared to Silver Spring. Just cry. Houses that sold for 600K-800K in Arlington have sold for 1.2-1.6 M in the past year or two. Silver Spring in the 600-800K range is barely recovering to 2005 levels. There is nothing in Silver Spring to draw people in except DC getting expensive. Discovery is gone. There is nothing interesting on the horizon. The schools are the same as they have always been which is undesirable to many buyers. Arlington has the job markets in VA and DC. Appreciation on the 2M houses in Arlington very well may flatten out but there's still room for the 500K THs to appreciate.

Discovery is not gone. They just leased a smaller space across the street. https://www.bisnow.com/washington-dc/news/office/d...ter-selling-headquarters-92633

No Discovery moved to NY. It left behind a small portion that it sold off with the rights to keep the name. The hit is more than Discovery too as Discovery was an anchor for other small media companies. They have been slowly moving away too. There was high hope years ago that Discovery, a film institute and all the creative secondary businesses would make the area flourish. Back then it really seemed that Silver Spring was better positioned than Arlington. It all failed. Arlington was smart in building luxury high rises at the right time and VA was smart in being business friendly. People who chose Arlington made $$$$ in equity, people in Silver Spring did not.

Go away already, gofarrrrrrr away. You have no idea about the business Discovery is in. A few years ago they moved everything to LA, then moved it back.
Post department is still over on Kennett street.
Discovery just bought Scripps.
Now shut up about SS. Don't like it, don't live there .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You have no idea what you are talking about. I work in the industry and trust me we are doing fine with Discovery leaving.

Further, a developer just brought the Discovery building for $70 million and is doing $30 million of renovations so you can just stop with your sky is falling post. I'm tired of your agenda and am reporting you to Jeff.

Excuse me but you are the one with the agenda. I hate to see anyone, let alone a single mother being mislead about such a substantial investment. I am more than happy to provide additional sources too not just insults to posters who do not agree with me. I have lived in several areas in MD, my DH lived in Arlington years ago and we've lived in other states as well. We have a pretty good handle on what is going on.

There is serious concern about Silver Spring with Discovery's departure. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/capitalbusiness/discoverys-departure-is-shot-across-the-bow-for-silver-spring-state-and-region/2018/01/12/fb11452e-f6fe-11e7-b34a-b85626af34ef_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.62b0c2674f3b.

You can go look at houses in the Clarendon, Courthouse and North Arlington areas to see what they were selling for in 2005 and what those same houses sold for in 2017/2018 then compare that Silver Spring.

Do you even work in TV???
Do you have a freaking clue about any thing you are talking about ???
Or are you some media/real estate/silver spring expert here to save the day by spreading garbage

[Anonymous]

I live in four corners. Got shot at the other day for wearing blue. The gangs are out of control here. Avoid!

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This is OP. The linked houses look great to me. Why is this so much less expensive than what I've been looking at in Arlington and Vienna? What am I missing?

1. The schools are bad, very bad. Everyone avoids the Silver Spring schools unless they can't afford anything else.

2. The jobs are in DC and in VA. There are very few jobs in Montgomery County and none on the horizon. There are so many commuters from MD to VA now that its almost impossible. The reserve commute is wide open. This is hurting the east and west.

3. Taxes are more of a problem now unless you are super rich. MD and Montgomery County taxes are higher and now that you can't deduct them its a bigger hit. Hoping that the Dems will repeal the tax bill.

4. Crime. Poverty has been out of DC and landed in Montgomery County. There is a concentration of no to low income housing in Silver Spring. Gangs are active in Silver Spring, Wheaton and Gaithersburg.

5. County revenue is not healthy. The county is losing tax revenue, property values are stagnate, no new businesses or losing businesses, and the population is shifting to be poorer. This means that county taxes will have to increase or services will need to be cut.

Hi there SS hater! We are a $300k family with well over a million in our portfolio who have lived in SS for 20 years and never left it because we love it here. Could definitely afford to live somewhere else or to send our kid to private, but we've been more than satisfied with our schools. Our kids test regularly in the 97-99% on standardized tests so they must be doing something right!

Also have never experienced any crime in the 20 years we've lived here. I hear about some car breaks-ins every so often but often nothing is taken.

Love our neighbors who are diverse and down to earth and friendly. Love DDSS. Love the AFI and the theaters and the Fillmore and the farmers market and easy access to Trader Joe's and Whole Foods.

Love that PP is not a member of our community.

Really? You don't remember the turf wars of 2002? South Four Corners vs Forest Glen. Everyone met in front of Santucci's and had a knife fight, it looked like the video for "Beat It." There was also the DTSS-Woodside feud of 1994 in which four LL Bean backpacks were lost, RIP.

DTSSer here: Also, lets not forgot the great Subaru showdown in the Whole Foods Parking lot in 2013.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This is OP. The linked houses look great to me. Why is this so much less expensive than what I've been looking at in Arlington and Vienna? What am I missing?

1. The schools are bad, very bad. Everyone avoids the Silver Spring schools unless they can't afford anything else.

2. The jobs are in DC and in VA. There are very few jobs in Montgomery County and none on the horizon. There are so many commuters from MD to VA now that its almost impossible. The reserve commute is wide open. This is hurting the east and west.

3. Taxes are more of a problem now unless you are super rich. MD and Montgomery County taxes are higher and now that you can't deduct them its a bigger hit. Hoping that the Dems will repeal the tax bill.

4. Crime. Poverty has been out of DC and landed in Montgomery County. There is a concentration of no to low income housing in Silver Spring. Gangs are active in Silver Spring, Wheaton and Gaithersburg.

5. County revenue is not healthy. The county is losing tax revenue, property values are stagnate, no new businesses or losing businesses, and the population is shifting to be poorer. This means that county taxes will have to increase or services will need to be cut.

Hi there SS hater! We are a $300k family with well over a million in our portfolio who have lived in SS for 20 years and never left it because we love it here. Could definitely afford to live somewhere else or to send our kid to private, but we've been more than satisfied with our schools. Our kids test regularly in the 97-99% on standardized tests so they must be doing something right!

Also have never experienced any crime in the 20 years we've lived here. I hear about some car breaks-ins every so often but often nothing is taken.

Love our neighbors who are diverse and down to earth and friendly. Love DDSS. Love the AFI and the theaters and the Fillmore and the farmers market and easy access to Trader Joe's and Whole Foods.

Love that PP is not a member of our community.

Really? You don't remember the turf wars of 2002? South Four Corners vs Forest Glen. Everyone met in front of Santucci's and had a knife fight, it looked like the video for "Beat It." There was also the DTSS-Woodside feud of 1994 in which four LL Bean backpacks were lost, RIP.

DTSSer here: Also, lets not forgot the great Subaru showdown in the Whole Foods Parking lot in 2013.

Outbacks VS Foresters
Wiper fluid spilled all over the parking lot
Lotta yoga moms sprained their ankles that day trying to buy kombucha
TRAGIC