In-state students from families earning less than $80K will be able to attend U.Va. tuition-free
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Anonymous
NP - No, you button your mouth. You have no idea what you are talking about. The PP is, as we are, clearly a donut hole family. UVA doesn't make the financial determinations as to what low or middle income is or EFC (expected family contribution) - the U.S. Department of Education does through the filing of FAFSA. IT decides if a family gets any aid at all. UVA meets 100% of demonstrable need. However, what the ED/FAFSA people think is demonstrated need and what is real life are two very different things. Take PPs, example. If you are a family with HHI of $150,000, you first have to subtract taxes, which in our area takes you down to roughly $97,000. Then you have to subtract $33K if in-state for UVA or $62K if OOS . That suddenly drops your income to $64K or $35K. Do you have two kids in college at the same time? Now you are in the negative AND you have not yet begun to pay for mortgage, property taxes, car, car insurance, property tax, other kids' tuitions or school expenses, disability and life insurance policies, food, clothing, utilities. etc. That's why UVA is starting a program to help middle-income people @ $150K a year to afford UVA. So YOU check your privilege and run the numbers before you make such a naive comment. |
Anonymous
| ^^ We, too, are a donut hole family. FAFSA says we make too much money to qualify for any kind of financial aid from UVA. We have two in college. We are having a hard time making it all work but we are grateful to be in-state for UVA. Still, it is very irksome for someone who doesn't know the system and doesn't realize that tuition is paid in after tax dollars to come on here and tell people to "check their privilege". College admissions and tuition has become a crisis in our nation. We can't afford $85K a year for HYPS. We can barely afford in-state UVA at $32. Any assistance for middle class and even UMC families, especially those with multiple kids in college at the same time, would be a welcome relief. |
Anonymous
Lol. No in-state student is paying full-freight. The out of state students are. Your in state tuition is subsidized by out of state students. How are you not aware of this? |
Anonymous
First of all, if your kids get into Harvard there's no way you're paying full freight if you have two in college and make $150k. As for UVA, at $32k you're already getting a good deal, and if you've saved a reasonable amount of money for college, you both work, your kids have summer jobs, and you borrow some I don't understand why it's such a stretch to pay the tuition. Presumably you've been working for years and knew this was coming? |
Anonymous
| I don't get why people are upset about aid for low income individuals. The hate people feel against poor people is so weird. |
Anonymous
And you're wrong again. $150K is the cut-off for Harvard - you MAY get financial aid above $150, but again, your EFC is set by the Dept of Ed when you file the FAFSA, not Harvard. . Our DS got into Harvard (now $68,000 not including travel fees), and we got zero, nada financial aid. Same with all the other schools. https://college.harvard.edu/admissions/choosing-harvard/affordability.. |
Anonymous
They are under the impression that 1) someone else getting something means they should get something (hm...often the same people who rail against socialism) and 2) that ALL of their taxes must be going for this instead of seeing their tax dollars at work all around them as they go about their day. |
Anonymous
There are probably two reasons. First, they may think it doesn't extend to their level of income and they also have need given cost of living, etc. Second, some realize that this aid is redistributed from the tuition paid by middle class families and up, so it may be raising their costs. |
Anonymous
If you're in Virginia, that's highly unlikely. IS tuition probably doesn't cover the cost to educate the student. The out of state students pay double. |
Anonymous
OOS full pays definitely subsidize, but I wouldn't rule it out that in-state full pays at UVA and W&M in particular subsidize lower income students. |
Anonymous
That’s not how it works. You can easily read about this if you so some searching. The financial reports are public. |
Anonymous
Well, look at it this way, if lower income students and families paid more, middle income could pay less to raise the same amount of tuition revenue. UVA already has a significantly higher price for higher income families in state and less for lower income. At Virginia Tech, for instance, that is much less pronounced. |
Anonymous
Not the PP, but the difference btwn making 80k in a rural area of VA and in FCPS is a big deal. You would have a higher quality of life in many parts of VA on 80k than you would on 150k in NOVA. And the salary between 80k-150k is taxed heavier etc. I think they should make policies on aid/qualification for programs in terms of percentage of local poverty line rather than across the board. So may be the program is HHI of 60k or x times the county poverty line whichever is higher. |
Anonymous
FAFSA already takes all of that into account when estimating EFC |
Anonymous
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New York State offers free SUNY tuition to families making $110,000 or less:
https://www.suny.edu/smarttrack/types-of-financial-aid/scholarships/excelsior/ |