Evergreene Homes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Their pricing is crazy these days, though they're not the only builder trying to fetch insane prices. $2 million for South Arlington .... LOL. At least if you're going to try to get prices like that, you should have a quality product.

Not a fan of Evergreen but price of land is out of their control. They will just pass it to consumer and we know how expensive land has gotten, yes even in “undesirable” S Arl. I’m not sure about the building materials prices but finance costs are much higher vs 3 years back and financing cost can be significant in a single home construction project. Evergreen is a middle of the road builder - you get what you pay for - and they really don’t charge much vs the higher quality builders.

[Anonymous]

Any more recent experiences from 2024-2025 folks can add (good and bad)?

We're looking at maybe tearing down (it's a rental now) and building new on our lot in S. Arlington.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any more recent experiences from 2024-2025 folks can add (good and bad)?

We're looking at maybe tearing down (it's a rental now) and building new on our lot in S. Arlington.

I saw your other post too. Talk to Focal Point and Design Pro if you haven’t already. Focal Point has pricing on their website (excludes site work, budget another $100-200K depending on complexity). Design Pro is building everywhere in Arlington lately and their pricing is also very competitive.

If a full gut reno including potential pop top is an option, Denny + Gardner and Casey Rivers are reputable and fairly priced and do amazing work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any more recent experiences from 2024-2025 folks can add (good and bad)?

We're looking at maybe tearing down (it's a rental now) and building new on our lot in S. Arlington.

I saw your other post too. Talk to Focal Point and Design Pro if you haven’t already. Focal Point has pricing on their website (excludes site work, budget another $100-200K depending on complexity). Design Pro is building everywhere in Arlington lately and their pricing is also very competitive.

If a full gut reno including potential pop top is an option, Denny + Gardner and Casey Rivers are reputable and fairly priced and do amazing work.

Thank you Focal Point home rep. What is the typical "site work" costs for a tear down in Vienna?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any more recent experiences from 2024-2025 folks can add (good and bad)?

We're looking at maybe tearing down (it's a rental now) and building new on our lot in S. Arlington.

I saw your other post too. Talk to Focal Point and Design Pro if you haven’t already. Focal Point has pricing on their website (excludes site work, budget another $100-200K depending on complexity). Design Pro is building everywhere in Arlington lately and their pricing is also very competitive.

If a full gut reno including potential pop top is an option, Denny + Gardner and Casey Rivers are reputable and fairly priced and do amazing work.

Thank you Focal Point home rep. What is the typical "site work" costs for a tear down in Vienna?

PP. Not a rep so no idea. Pricing above was for Arlington.

[Anonymous]

Not a builder, but I would guess $100k-$200k would be the range for many Virginia lots inside (east of or north of) VA Route 286.

Outside 286 might be lower cost, if the site development contractor were based towards the west.

Unusually difficult lots - stream, pond, steep slope, or hard to access could be higher of course.

[Anonymous]

Evergreene Homes COO was managing the Washington DC area for DR Horton when they were at the bottom of the JD Powers rankings. This is apparent in the construction quality of their homes and the poor customer service from contract to the conclusion of your one-year warranty. Evergreene Homes used to build a nice home as noted by their subcontractors; however, based on the more recent construction of their homes and the cost cutting measures implemented that is no longer the case. It is also surprising that they send the majority of their architecture work to India to save on costs.
The primary cost cutting measures noted are using an electric furnace in the upstairs when gas would be more efficient, poor quality windows as drapes sway on windy days due to air infiltration, inadequate insulating of rain showers heads in attics and plumbing lines on exterior walls, gutters/downspouts too small for the size of roofs they manage rain for, using flexible gas lines throughout their homes when black iron is superior and very common with their competitors, using plastic tubs in secondary bathrooms, lack of snow guards on metal roofs as a heavy snow fall will cause snow to slide down the metal roofs and rip the gutters off your home and damage landscaping, hanging drywall without the use of glue, not insulating plumbing drain pipes in the basement and first floor so it sounds like waste water is rushing through the pipes when a toilet is flushed on the second floor causing unpleasant noise, a vast amount of insects collecting on the inside of windows due to poor quality windows, dirty ductwork and furnaces with construction dust and debris due to the HVAC being started up too soon in the building process, lack of drain mat on the foundation walls which will improve storm water draining along the foundation wall, lack of mold resistant purple drywall in bathrooms, and finished flooring is not run under cabinets in bathrooms and kitchens, lack of PVC glue used on exterior cornice material joints as noted by the manufacturer, installing PVC exterior trim when material is uncared for and lying in mud, lack of using magnets instead of bullet catches on interior doors, using pine interior trim over poplar, installing poor quality flexible HVAC ducts instead of metal hard pipes, and not making wall mount garage door openers standard (they are quieter) when a living area is above the garage.
The third-party warranty is ridiculous as you should review the standards prior to contract! In addition, make sure you ask that the structural engineer of record certifies the house prior to wall insulation being installed and provides you the certification.

[Anonymous]

Don't forget non implementation of asbestos mitigation during tear down!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Evergreene Homes COO was managing the Washington DC area for DR Horton when they were at the bottom of the JD Powers rankings. This is apparent in the construction quality of their homes and the poor customer service from contract to the conclusion of your one-year warranty. Evergreene Homes used to build a nice home as noted by their subcontractors; however, based on the more recent construction of their homes and the cost cutting measures implemented that is no longer the case. It is also surprising that they send the majority of their architecture work to India to save on costs.
The primary cost cutting measures noted are using an electric furnace in the upstairs when gas would be more efficient, poor quality windows as drapes sway on windy days due to air infiltration, inadequate insulating of rain showers heads in attics and plumbing lines on exterior walls, gutters/downspouts too small for the size of roofs they manage rain for, using flexible gas lines throughout their homes when black iron is superior and very common with their competitors, using plastic tubs in secondary bathrooms, lack of snow guards on metal roofs as a heavy snow fall will cause snow to slide down the metal roofs and rip the gutters off your home and damage landscaping, hanging drywall without the use of glue, not insulating plumbing drain pipes in the basement and first floor so it sounds like waste water is rushing through the pipes when a toilet is flushed on the second floor causing unpleasant noise, a vast amount of insects collecting on the inside of windows due to poor quality windows, dirty ductwork and furnaces with construction dust and debris due to the HVAC being started up too soon in the building process, lack of drain mat on the foundation walls which will improve storm water draining along the foundation wall, lack of mold resistant purple drywall in bathrooms, and finished flooring is not run under cabinets in bathrooms and kitchens, lack of PVC glue used on exterior cornice material joints as noted by the manufacturer, installing PVC exterior trim when material is uncared for and lying in mud, lack of using magnets instead of bullet catches on interior doors, using pine interior trim over poplar, installing poor quality flexible HVAC ducts instead of metal hard pipes, and not making wall mount garage door openers standard (they are quieter) when a living area is above the garage.
The third-party warranty is ridiculous as you should review the standards prior to contract! In addition, make sure you ask that the structural engineer of record certifies the house prior to wall insulation being installed and provides you the certification.

Not defending evergreen by any means but some items you cite are hallmark features of even higher quality builders. They always f&&ck up the hvac systems - the loser drywall, paint contractors will be running hvac with no or saturated furnace filter which is often painted over. They save $500 for handing cheap low quality gutters and downspouts. The culture in n residential building is transactional, a money grab by your builder and his subs. Daytime robbery imo. Oh…yes I’ve seen evergreen homes and I cringe when I see them putting up the faux stone exterior walls - reminds me of faux stucco causing mold and rot sheathing.