Can anything be done about HB Woodlawn?

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Anonymous wrote:Wrong argument.
All this tit for tat about admission is beside the point.

We are paying for a TINY PRIVATE SCHOOL that can’t possibly accommodate the number of students interested.

That’s the only issue that matters. We can’t afford it. We don’t have space for it. It’s not equitable.
The end.

You sound like one of the people who complains how TJ is unfair to other Fairfax County schools. You really expect counties to give up renowned schools because you think they're "unfair"?

Not sure TJ is a remotely good comparison. Fairfax County has more teachers and staff in their schools than Arlington has students. Think about that for a second. It's educating nearly 190,000 kids in 200 schools. Just because it works for Fairfax doesn't mean that model is applicable to the smallest county in the DMV.

DP. Do you have a substantive response to pp’s point, or is this the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling, “I CANT HEAR YOU!” because you don’t like what the person is saying?

DP. TJ is not a good comparison because it's a test-in school. Kids who get in have earned it with higher scores. I, for one, can better accept that model because it's serving a particular type of student with a particular curriculum that not every child could be successful with. If HB is for a particular type of student, as I believe it was created to be, there should be some sort of application other than lottery. If it's just become so successful because of its smaller size and lower student/teacher ratio and its culture, then maybe we should build a dozen HB's instead of a 4th mega high school.

Yes this point exactly. It’s the capped enrollment. Grossly unfair. And yes, my kid did not get in, and I’m mad about it. To those who have an issue with my anger, live with it. It’s the price for the privilege of your golden ticket out of the overcrowding.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wrong argument.
All this tit for tat about admission is beside the point.

We are paying for a TINY PRIVATE SCHOOL that can’t possibly accommodate the number of students interested.

That’s the only issue that matters. We can’t afford it. We don’t have space for it. It’s not equitable.
The end.

You sound like one of the people who complains how TJ is unfair to other Fairfax County schools. You really expect counties to give up renowned schools because you think they're "unfair"?

Not sure TJ is a remotely good comparison. Fairfax County has more teachers and staff in their schools than Arlington has students. Think about that for a second. It's educating nearly 190,000 kids in 200 schools. Just because it works for Fairfax doesn't mean that model is applicable to the smallest county in the DMV.

DP. Do you have a substantive response to pp’s point, or is this the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling, “I CANT HEAR YOU!” because you don’t like what the person is saying?

DP. TJ is not a good comparison because it's a test-in school. Kids who get in have earned it with higher scores. I, for one, can better accept that model because it's serving a particular type of student with a particular curriculum that not every child could be successful with. If HB is for a particular type of student, as I believe it was created to be, there should be some sort of application other than lottery. If it's just become so successful because of its smaller size and lower student/teacher ratio and its culture, then maybe we should build a dozen HB's instead of a 4th mega high school.

Yes this point exactly. It’s the capped enrollment. Grossly unfair. And yes, my kid did not get in, and I’m mad about it. To those who have an issue with my anger, live with it. It’s the price for the privilege of your golden ticket out of the overcrowding.

And the truth comes out. Your kid didn't get in, so no kid should be able to go. I'm sure you'd be on here defending h-b if your kid had gotten in. How basic of you.

[Anonymous]

As a parent if a yet to be in school toddler the price tag is disturbing. I can’t believe what the Board spent on it. Disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a parent if a yet to be in school toddler the price tag is disturbing. I can’t believe what the Board spent on it. Disgusting.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wrong argument.
All this tit for tat about admission is beside the point.

We are paying for a TINY PRIVATE SCHOOL that can’t possibly accommodate the number of students interested.

That’s the only issue that matters. We can’t afford it. We don’t have space for it. It’s not equitable.
The end.

You sound like one of the people who complains how TJ is unfair to other Fairfax County schools. You really expect counties to give up renowned schools because you think they're "unfair"?

Not sure TJ is a remotely good comparison. Fairfax County has more teachers and staff in their schools than Arlington has students. Think about that for a second. It's educating nearly 190,000 kids in 200 schools. Just because it works for Fairfax doesn't mean that model is applicable to the smallest county in the DMV.

DP. Do you have a substantive response to pp’s point, or is this the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling, “I CANT HEAR YOU!” because you don’t like what the person is saying?

DP. TJ is not a good comparison because it's a test-in school. Kids who get in have earned it with higher scores. I, for one, can better accept that model because it's serving a particular type of student with a particular curriculum that not every child could be successful with. If HB is for a particular type of student, as I believe it was created to be, there should be some sort of application other than lottery. If it's just become so successful because of its smaller size and lower student/teacher ratio and its culture, then maybe we should build a dozen HB's instead of a 4th mega high school.

Yes this point exactly. It’s the capped enrollment. Grossly unfair. And yes, my kid did not get in, and I’m mad about it. To those who have an issue with my anger, live with it. It’s the price for the privilege of your golden ticket out of the overcrowding.

And the truth comes out. Your kid didn't get in, so no kid should be able to go. I'm sure you'd be on here defending h-b if your kid had gotten in. How basic of you.

DP. I have really little kids so we haven't yet not "won" or "lost." But why are you surprised? Duh. If you have a limited commodity that is far superior and then restrict access to said commodity, of course it's going to cause some ire. Why not replicate the program rather than destroy it? It seems like there really isn't a particular type of student that this program is meant for, so why not give more kids the chance to experience a successful program? Build at least two more H-B programs. Put one at the Ed center at W-L and one at the Career Center site.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wrong argument.
All this tit for tat about admission is beside the point.

We are paying for a TINY PRIVATE SCHOOL that can’t possibly accommodate the number of students interested.

That’s the only issue that matters. We can’t afford it. We don’t have space for it. It’s not equitable.
The end.

You sound like one of the people who complains how TJ is unfair to other Fairfax County schools. You really expect counties to give up renowned schools because you think they're "unfair"?

Not sure TJ is a remotely good comparison. Fairfax County has more teachers and staff in their schools than Arlington has students. Think about that for a second. It's educating nearly 190,000 kids in 200 schools. Just because it works for Fairfax doesn't mean that model is applicable to the smallest county in the DMV.

DP. Do you have a substantive response to pp’s point, or is this the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling, “I CANT HEAR YOU!” because you don’t like what the person is saying?

DP. TJ is not a good comparison because it's a test-in school. Kids who get in have earned it with higher scores. I, for one, can better accept that model because it's serving a particular type of student with a particular curriculum that not every child could be successful with. If HB is for a particular type of student, as I believe it was created to be, there should be some sort of application other than lottery. If it's just become so successful because of its smaller size and lower student/teacher ratio and its culture, then maybe we should build a dozen HB's instead of a 4th mega high school.

Yes this point exactly. It’s the capped enrollment. Grossly unfair. And yes, my kid did not get in, and I’m mad about it. To those who have an issue with my anger, live with it. It’s the price for the privilege of your golden ticket out of the overcrowding.

And the truth comes out. Your kid didn't get in, so no kid should be able to go. I'm sure you'd be on here defending h-b if your kid had gotten in. How basic of you.

Are you trying to shame me for being angry?! Not gonna work. Of course I'm angry. I have to pay for snowflakes to go to a small private school while my kid sits in crazy overcrowded schools. Next argument?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wrong argument.
All this tit for tat about admission is beside the point.

We are paying for a TINY PRIVATE SCHOOL that can’t possibly accommodate the number of students interested.

That’s the only issue that matters. We can’t afford it. We don’t have space for it. It’s not equitable.
The end.

You sound like one of the people who complains how TJ is unfair to other Fairfax County schools. You really expect counties to give up renowned schools because you think they're "unfair"?

Not sure TJ is a remotely good comparison. Fairfax County has more teachers and staff in their schools than Arlington has students. Think about that for a second. It's educating nearly 190,000 kids in 200 schools. Just because it works for Fairfax doesn't mean that model is applicable to the smallest county in the DMV.

DP. Do you have a substantive response to pp’s point, or is this the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling, “I CANT HEAR YOU!” because you don’t like what the person is saying?

DP. TJ is not a good comparison because it's a test-in school. Kids who get in have earned it with higher scores. I, for one, can better accept that model because it's serving a particular type of student with a particular curriculum that not every child could be successful with. If HB is for a particular type of student, as I believe it was created to be, there should be some sort of application other than lottery. If it's just become so successful because of its smaller size and lower student/teacher ratio and its culture, then maybe we should build a dozen HB's instead of a 4th mega high school.

If anything, I think this argument cuts against TJ and in favor of HB. Hard work alone won't get you into TJ; if you don't have the academic aptitude, it doesn't matter how hard you work, you have literally zero chance of getting into TJ. Thus, only a small portion of FCPS students realistically have anything resembling a viable opportunity to apply for TJ. HB doesn't discriminate based on academic aptitude, anyone can apply and have a chance of being admitted.

As for having multiple HBs, the SB has looked at that option (and for ATS as well). The feedback they received was that people would still want to go to the original because they couldn't be assured that the copy would end up being as good, so it wouldn't necessarily alleviate the situation of one school being considered "the" HB that everyone competed for and the other one being the "lesser" HB some people settled for. Plus, since there are some inefficiencies associated with the smaller size of that program, creating multiple HB schools would increase needed school funding significantly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wrong argument.
All this tit for tat about admission is beside the point.

We are paying for a TINY PRIVATE SCHOOL that can’t possibly accommodate the number of students interested.

That’s the only issue that matters. We can’t afford it. We don’t have space for it. It’s not equitable.
The end.

You sound like one of the people who complains how TJ is unfair to other Fairfax County schools. You really expect counties to give up renowned schools because you think they're "unfair"?

Not sure TJ is a remotely good comparison. Fairfax County has more teachers and staff in their schools than Arlington has students. Think about that for a second. It's educating nearly 190,000 kids in 200 schools. Just because it works for Fairfax doesn't mean that model is applicable to the smallest county in the DMV.

DP. Do you have a substantive response to pp’s point, or is this the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling, “I CANT HEAR YOU!” because you don’t like what the person is saying?

DP. TJ is not a good comparison because it's a test-in school. Kids who get in have earned it with higher scores. I, for one, can better accept that model because it's serving a particular type of student with a particular curriculum that not every child could be successful with. If HB is for a particular type of student, as I believe it was created to be, there should be some sort of application other than lottery. If it's just become so successful because of its smaller size and lower student/teacher ratio and its culture, then maybe we should build a dozen HB's instead of a 4th mega high school.

Yes this point exactly. It’s the capped enrollment. Grossly unfair. And yes, my kid did not get in, and I’m mad about it. To those who have an issue with my anger, live with it. It’s the price for the privilege of your golden ticket out of the overcrowding.

And the truth comes out. Your kid didn't get in, so no kid should be able to go. I'm sure you'd be on here defending h-b if your kid had gotten in. How basic of you.

Are you trying to shame me for being angry?! Not gonna work. Of course I'm angry. I have to pay for snowflakes to go to a small private school while my kid sits in crazy overcrowded schools. Next argument?

DP, you're a hypocrite. You would have been just fine with other people paying for your snowflake to go to a "small private school" while their kids sat in "crazy overcrowded schools" if your child had gotten in, and probably would have defended HB to the end. You're not even making a pretense of your argument being a principled one, so go on, keep talking, and the rest of us (even those without kids at HB) will go on not caring how you feel.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wrong argument.
All this tit for tat about admission is beside the point.

We are paying for a TINY PRIVATE SCHOOL that can’t possibly accommodate the number of students interested.

That’s the only issue that matters. We can’t afford it. We don’t have space for it. It’s not equitable.
The end.

You sound like one of the people who complains how TJ is unfair to other Fairfax County schools. You really expect counties to give up renowned schools because you think they're "unfair"?

Not sure TJ is a remotely good comparison. Fairfax County has more teachers and staff in their schools than Arlington has students. Think about that for a second. It's educating nearly 190,000 kids in 200 schools. Just because it works for Fairfax doesn't mean that model is applicable to the smallest county in the DMV.

DP. Do you have a substantive response to pp’s point, or is this the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling, “I CANT HEAR YOU!” because you don’t like what the person is saying?

DP. TJ is not a good comparison because it's a test-in school. Kids who get in have earned it with higher scores. I, for one, can better accept that model because it's serving a particular type of student with a particular curriculum that not every child could be successful with. If HB is for a particular type of student, as I believe it was created to be, there should be some sort of application other than lottery. If it's just become so successful because of its smaller size and lower student/teacher ratio and its culture, then maybe we should build a dozen HB's instead of a 4th mega high school.

Yes this point exactly. It’s the capped enrollment. Grossly unfair. And yes, my kid did not get in, and I’m mad about it. To those who have an issue with my anger, live with it. It’s the price for the privilege of your golden ticket out of the overcrowding.

And the truth comes out. Your kid didn't get in, so no kid should be able to go. I'm sure you'd be on here defending h-b if your kid had gotten in. How basic of you.

Are you trying to shame me for being angry?! Not gonna work. Of course I'm angry. I have to pay for snowflakes to go to a small private school while my kid sits in crazy overcrowded schools. Next argument?

DP, you're a hypocrite. You would have been just fine with other people paying for your snowflake to go to a "small private school" while their kids sat in "crazy overcrowded schools" if your child had gotten in, and probably would have defended HB to the end. You're not even making a pretense of your argument being a principled one, so go on, keep talking, and the rest of us (even those without kids at HB) will go on not caring how you feel.

Are you saying your position is principled? Give me a break! Nobody is forcing you to care about how I feel. I get the same voice and vote as anyone else. I want HB shut down. And I think there are more angry parents than supportive parents these days, given the overcrowding. Next argument? Or do you not have any principled arguments yourself?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wrong argument.
All this tit for tat about admission is beside the point.

We are paying for a TINY PRIVATE SCHOOL that can’t possibly accommodate the number of students interested.

That’s the only issue that matters. We can’t afford it. We don’t have space for it. It’s not equitable.
The end.

You sound like one of the people who complains how TJ is unfair to other Fairfax County schools. You really expect counties to give up renowned schools because you think they're "unfair"?

Not sure TJ is a remotely good comparison. Fairfax County has more teachers and staff in their schools than Arlington has students. Think about that for a second. It's educating nearly 190,000 kids in 200 schools. Just because it works for Fairfax doesn't mean that model is applicable to the smallest county in the DMV.

DP. Do you have a substantive response to pp’s point, or is this the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling, “I CANT HEAR YOU!” because you don’t like what the person is saying?

DP. TJ is not a good comparison because it's a test-in school. Kids who get in have earned it with higher scores. I, for one, can better accept that model because it's serving a particular type of student with a particular curriculum that not every child could be successful with. If HB is for a particular type of student, as I believe it was created to be, there should be some sort of application other than lottery. If it's just become so successful because of its smaller size and lower student/teacher ratio and its culture, then maybe we should build a dozen HB's instead of a 4th mega high school.

Yes this point exactly. It’s the capped enrollment. Grossly unfair. And yes, my kid did not get in, and I’m mad about it. To those who have an issue with my anger, live with it. It’s the price for the privilege of your golden ticket out of the overcrowding.

And the truth comes out. Your kid didn't get in, so no kid should be able to go. I'm sure you'd be on here defending h-b if your kid had gotten in. How basic of you.

Are you trying to shame me for being angry?! Not gonna work. Of course I'm angry. I have to pay for snowflakes to go to a small private school while my kid sits in crazy overcrowded schools. Next argument?

DP, you're a hypocrite. You would have been just fine with other people paying for your snowflake to go to a "small private school" while their kids sat in "crazy overcrowded schools" if your child had gotten in, and probably would have defended HB to the end. You're not even making a pretense of your argument being a principled one, so go on, keep talking, and the rest of us (even those without kids at HB) will go on not caring how you feel.

Are you saying your position is principled? Give me a break! Nobody is forcing you to care about how I feel. I get the same voice and vote as anyone else. I want HB shut down. And I think there are more angry parents than supportive parents these days, given the overcrowding. Next argument? Or do you not have any principled arguments yourself?

If you live in Arlington, you don't have to send your kid to an overcrowded school. Schools that are not overcrowded are accepting transfers.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wrong argument.
All this tit for tat about admission is beside the point.

We are paying for a TINY PRIVATE SCHOOL that can’t possibly accommodate the number of students interested.

That’s the only issue that matters. We can’t afford it. We don’t have space for it. It’s not equitable.
The end.

You sound like one of the people who complains how TJ is unfair to other Fairfax County schools. You really expect counties to give up renowned schools because you think they're "unfair"?

Not sure TJ is a remotely good comparison. Fairfax County has more teachers and staff in their schools than Arlington has students. Think about that for a second. It's educating nearly 190,000 kids in 200 schools. Just because it works for Fairfax doesn't mean that model is applicable to the smallest county in the DMV.

DP. Do you have a substantive response to pp’s point, or is this the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling, “I CANT HEAR YOU!” because you don’t like what the person is saying?

DP. TJ is not a good comparison because it's a test-in school. Kids who get in have earned it with higher scores. I, for one, can better accept that model because it's serving a particular type of student with a particular curriculum that not every child could be successful with. If HB is for a particular type of student, as I believe it was created to be, there should be some sort of application other than lottery. If it's just become so successful because of its smaller size and lower student/teacher ratio and its culture, then maybe we should build a dozen HB's instead of a 4th mega high school.

Yes this point exactly. It’s the capped enrollment. Grossly unfair. And yes, my kid did not get in, and I’m mad about it. To those who have an issue with my anger, live with it. It’s the price for the privilege of your golden ticket out of the overcrowding.

And the truth comes out. Your kid didn't get in, so no kid should be able to go. I'm sure you'd be on here defending h-b if your kid had gotten in. How basic of you.

Are you trying to shame me for being angry?! Not gonna work. Of course I'm angry. I have to pay for snowflakes to go to a small private school while my kid sits in crazy overcrowded schools. Next argument?

DP, you're a hypocrite. You would have been just fine with other people paying for your snowflake to go to a "small private school" while their kids sat in "crazy overcrowded schools" if your child had gotten in, and probably would have defended HB to the end. You're not even making a pretense of your argument being a principled one, so go on, keep talking, and the rest of us (even those without kids at HB) will go on not caring how you feel.

Are you saying your position is principled? Give me a break! Nobody is forcing you to care about how I feel. I get the same voice and vote as anyone else. I want HB shut down. And I think there are more angry parents than supportive parents these days, given the overcrowding. Next argument? Or do you not have any principled arguments yourself?

It is principled in that I'm taking a position essentially in a black box where I don't know if my children will get in when they apply (if they even choose to apply). If my position changes later based solely on whether my children get in or not, feel free to call me a hypocrite too. But on that point, I still fully support the choice options at the elementary level even though the same dynamic is present there, and even though my children don't go to choice schools. So there's a bit of credibility there that I don't just look out my me and mine at the expense of the rest of the community.

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent if a yet to be in school toddler the price tag is disturbing. I can’t believe what the Board spent on it. Disgusting.

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent if a yet to be in school toddler the price tag is disturbing. I can’t believe what the Board spent on it. Disgusting.

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They are spending $18M at McKinley to add 9 classrooms.

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent if a yet to be in school toddler the price tag is disturbing. I can’t believe what the Board spent on it. Disgusting.

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They are spending $18M at McKinley to add 9 classrooms.

And your point is?
Oh, was your point that Reed should have been converted back to a school years ago? I agree.

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Anonymous wrote:Wrong argument.
All this tit for tat about admission is beside the point.

We are paying for a TINY PRIVATE SCHOOL that can’t possibly accommodate the number of students interested.

That’s the only issue that matters. We can’t afford it. We don’t have space for it. It’s not equitable.
The end.

You sound like one of the people who complains how TJ is unfair to other Fairfax County schools. You really expect counties to give up renowned schools because you think they're "unfair"?

Not sure TJ is a remotely good comparison. Fairfax County has more teachers and staff in their schools than Arlington has students. Think about that for a second. It's educating nearly 190,000 kids in 200 schools. Just because it works for Fairfax doesn't mean that model is applicable to the smallest county in the DMV.

DP. Do you have a substantive response to pp’s point, or is this the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling, “I CANT HEAR YOU!” because you don’t like what the person is saying?

DP. TJ is not a good comparison because it's a test-in school. Kids who get in have earned it with higher scores. I, for one, can better accept that model because it's serving a particular type of student with a particular curriculum that not every child could be successful with. If HB is for a particular type of student, as I believe it was created to be, there should be some sort of application other than lottery. If it's just become so successful because of its smaller size and lower student/teacher ratio and its culture, then maybe we should build a dozen HB's instead of a 4th mega high school.

Yes this point exactly. It’s the capped enrollment. Grossly unfair. And yes, my kid did not get in, and I’m mad about it. To those who have an issue with my anger, live with it. It’s the price for the privilege of your golden ticket out of the overcrowding.

And the truth comes out. Your kid didn't get in, so no kid should be able to go. I'm sure you'd be on here defending h-b if your kid had gotten in. How basic of you.

Are you trying to shame me for being angry?! Not gonna work. Of course I'm angry. I have to pay for snowflakes to go to a small private school while my kid sits in crazy overcrowded schools. Next argument?

DP, you're a hypocrite. You would have been just fine with other people paying for your snowflake to go to a "small private school" while their kids sat in "crazy overcrowded schools" if your child had gotten in, and probably would have defended HB to the end. You're not even making a pretense of your argument being a principled one, so go on, keep talking, and the rest of us (even those without kids at HB) will go on not caring how you feel.

Are you saying your position is principled? Give me a break! Nobody is forcing you to care about how I feel. I get the same voice and vote as anyone else. I want HB shut down. And I think there are more angry parents than supportive parents these days, given the overcrowding. Next argument? Or do you not have any principled arguments yourself?

It is principled in that I'm taking a position essentially in a black box where I don't know if my children will get in when they apply (if they even choose to apply). If my position changes later based solely on whether my children get in or not, feel free to call me a hypocrite too. But on that point, I still fully support the choice options at the elementary level even though the same dynamic is present there, and even though my children don't go to choice schools. So there's a bit of credibility there that I don't just look out my me and mine at the expense of the rest of the community.

Excellent principles. Me too. I don’t think capped enrollment choice schools are something we can afford right now. And I’m also angry that I have to pay a personal price for it. I guess my point is that just because I’m angry doesn’t mean that I’m not also right.