Can anything be done about HB Woodlawn?

[Anonymous]

So much of the bond money is going towards it for so few seats. Is it too late to push for more seats to be added to the new building?

I've seen the thread on AEM, and while it was focused on diversity, a few people mentioned seats. I just couldn't tell if there's any use in advocating to expand it.

[Anonymous]

It’s not going to happen.

[Anonymous]

They've broken ground. Not happening.

[Anonymous]

OP here - that is what I had feared. I have limited time (like all of us) and so don't want to waste time advocating for something that will never happen. It is just so frustrating that there is NO PLAN for where all these kids are going to go.

[Anonymous]

APS is not interested in making sure every kid has a good experience. It is interested in having bells and whistles here and there (a fancy elementary school with a slide, some choice programs that sound vaguely innovative, and a small, open-campus middle/high school that will keep getting Murphy invited to fancy seminars). So what if everything else is overcrowded and mediocre?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:APS is not interested in making sure every kid has a good experience. It is interested in having bells and whistles here and there (a fancy elementary school with a slide, some choice programs that sound vaguely innovative, and a small, open-campus middle/high school that will keep getting Murphy invited to fancy seminars). So what if everything else is overcrowded and mediocre?

Original plan for the site was a 1300 student neighborhood middle school. Were the plans as fancy when that was the plan or did it balloon when it became HB?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS is not interested in making sure every kid has a good experience. It is interested in having bells and whistles here and there (a fancy elementary school with a slide, some choice programs that sound vaguely innovative, and a small, open-campus middle/high school that will keep getting Murphy invited to fancy seminars). So what if everything else is overcrowded and mediocre?

Original plan for the site was a 1300 student neighborhood middle school. Were the plans as fancy when that was the plan or did it balloon when it became HB?

I don't recall it ever getting to the design stage when the idea of a middle school was floated.

[Anonymous]

Put some trailers in that site and force them to take on 500 more kids. LIKE THE REST OF APS!!! Those sanctimonious HB parents make me want to VOMIT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Put some trailers in that site and force them to take on 500 more kids. LIKE THE REST OF APS!!! Those sanctimonious HB parents make me want to VOMIT.

I noticed on AEM that the most sanctimonious one about how white HB is said that she has kids (plural) there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Put some trailers in that site and force them to take on 500 more kids. LIKE THE REST OF APS!!! Those sanctimonious HB parents make me want to VOMIT.

I noticed on AEM that the most sanctimonious one about how white HB is said that she has kids (plural) there.

Nothing fishy about that at all! But even if it were all fair and square (which it’s clearly not), it’s still rotten. We don’t have space for these snowflake programs. Stick those kids ... all plural of them... in trailers like the rest of our kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So much of the bond money is going towards it for so few seats. Is it too late to push for more seats to be added to the new building?

I've seen the thread on AEM, and while it was focused on diversity, a few people mentioned seats. I just couldn't tell if there's any use in advocating to expand it.

The result may not have been any different, but if you want to have input into these kinds of decisions, you need to pay attention all along, not once the plan is done and ground has been broken when it's too late to change course. It's like all of the people who check out on a school boundary process until the final proposal has been put forward for approval, and then finally pay attention, scream and shout that they don't agree, and are outraged that the SB doesn't go back and redo the process just because they're now shared an opinion. If you want people to care what you have to say, you need to do the work of staying involved all along.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much of the bond money is going towards it for so few seats. Is it too late to push for more seats to be added to the new building?

I've seen the thread on AEM, and while it was focused on diversity, a few people mentioned seats. I just couldn't tell if there's any use in advocating to expand it.

The result may not have been any different, but if you want to have input into these kinds of decisions, you need to pay attention all along, not once the plan is done and ground has been broken when it's too late to change course. It's like all of the people who check out on a school boundary process until the final proposal has been put forward for approval, and then finally pay attention, scream and shout that they don't agree, and are outraged that the SB doesn't go back and redo the process just because they're now shared an opinion. If you want people to care what you have to say, you need to do the work of staying involved all along.

Exactly. IMO, HBW should never have been moved. They should have put the new MS there.

But there are some extra loud complainers.

Anyway, the time to challenge this has long since passed. Keep up - lots more changes coming that you can still comment on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much of the bond money is going towards it for so few seats. Is it too late to push for more seats to be added to the new building?

I've seen the thread on AEM, and while it was focused on diversity, a few people mentioned seats. I just couldn't tell if there's any use in advocating to expand it.

The result may not have been any different, but if you want to have input into these kinds of decisions, you need to pay attention all along, not once the plan is done and ground has been broken when it's too late to change course. It's like all of the people who check out on a school boundary process until the final proposal has been put forward for approval, and then finally pay attention, scream and shout that they don't agree, and are outraged that the SB doesn't go back and redo the process just because they're now shared an opinion. If you want people to care what you have to say, you need to do the work of staying involved all along.

Exactly. IMO, HBW should never have been moved. They should have put the new MS there.

But there are some extra loud complainers.

Anyway, the time to challenge this has long since passed. Keep up - lots more changes coming that you can still comment on.

Like the elementary school boundaries. A lot of people aren't bothering to pay attention because they figure it's about choice schools right now and their kids aren't in choice schools so it doesn't affect them. But if they find out their neighborhood school is becoming a choice school, or a choice school is being relocated in a way that will meaningfully affect their neighborhood school, they'll be screaming mad.

Don't be those people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Put some trailers in that site and force them to take on 500 more kids. LIKE THE REST OF APS!!! Those sanctimonious HB parents make me want to VOMIT.

I noticed on AEM that the most sanctimonious one about how white HB is said that she has kids (plural) there.

Nothing fishy about that at all! But even if it were all fair and square (which it’s clearly not), it’s still rotten. We don’t have space for these snowflake programs. Stick those kids ... all plural of them... in trailers like the rest of our kids.

If you don’t want your kids in trailers you can transfer to another school in APS that is less crowded. Two middle schools that have zero trailers were accepting transfers this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Put some trailers in that site and force them to take on 500 more kids. LIKE THE REST OF APS!!! Those sanctimonious HB parents make me want to VOMIT.

I noticed on AEM that the most sanctimonious one about how white HB is said that she has kids (plural) there.

Nothing fishy about that at all! But even if it were all fair and square (which it’s clearly not), it’s still rotten. We don’t have space for these snowflake programs. Stick those kids ... all plural of them... in trailers like the rest of our kids.

If you don’t want your kids in trailers you can transfer to another school in APS that is less crowded. Two middle schools that have zero trailers were accepting transfers this year.

But I sure can’t send them to HB. Only the chosen ones can go there.