Yet another illegal immigrant - twice deported - kills American in drunk driving accident.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is why Democrats are fighting the wall: It's permanent. They would much rather agree to increasing the number of border agents so that if and when they get a liberal in as president, they can pull that back and make it easier for future Democratic voters to swarm into the country. Remember, Obama actually set up a hotline so illegals could complain if border agents weren't nice enough to them. We all know where the Democrats' sympathies lie, and their first order-of-business should they regain power would be to lighten up enforcement of immigration law.


Are you envisioning something like the Great Wall of China? Walls aren't permanent. They fall down, they are taken down.

I'm not talking 1000 years permanent. But we need something that the Democrats can't undo the second they get control, and you know they will. Beefing up the number of border agents will last only as long as the Rs retain power.



Crazy person alert! You can’t be dumb enough to think the wall will help! Most people here illegally overstay their visas.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is why Democrats are fighting the wall: It's permanent. They would much rather agree to increasing the number of border agents so that if and when they get a liberal in as president, they can pull that back and make it easier for future Democratic voters to swarm into the country. Remember, Obama actually set up a hotline so illegals could complain if border agents weren't nice enough to them. We all know where the Democrats' sympathies lie, and their first order-of-business should they regain power would be to lighten up enforcement of immigration law.


Are you envisioning something like the Great Wall of China? Walls aren't permanent. They fall down, they are taken down.

I'm not talking 1000 years permanent. But we need something that the Democrats can't undo the second they get control, and you know they will. Beefing up the number of border agents will last only as long as the Rs retain power.


About that:

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-border-patrol-hiring-20171217-story.html

That's great. But you think the Dems will continue with that? They are playing lip service to border security now, since they know an election is looming, but if and when they win control, it's Katy bar the door.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is why Democrats are fighting the wall: It's permanent. They would much rather agree to increasing the number of border agents so that if and when they get a liberal in as president, they can pull that back and make it easier for future Democratic voters to swarm into the country. Remember, Obama actually set up a hotline so illegals could complain if border agents weren't nice enough to them. We all know where the Democrats' sympathies lie, and their first order-of-business should they regain power would be to lighten up enforcement of immigration law.


Are you envisioning something like the Great Wall of China? Walls aren't permanent. They fall down, they are taken down.

I'm not talking 1000 years permanent. But we need something that the Democrats can't undo the second they get control, and you know they will. Beefing up the number of border agents will last only as long as the Rs retain power.



Crazy person alert! You can’t be dumb enough to think the wall will help! Most people here illegally overstay their visas.

I'm not so worried about those people. About 30 - 40% of illegals are the "illegal crossing" type, and that's where we need control. And the wall won't solve the problem completely - you're right, I'm not dumb - but it will present an obstacle while sending a strong message that this country is not looking the other way anymore. Better than setting up a hotline so illegal immigrants can voice their complaints about border agents! Obama should have just hung a big "Welcome" sign.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is why Democrats are fighting the wall: It's permanent. They would much rather agree to increasing the number of border agents so that if and when they get a liberal in as president, they can pull that back and make it easier for future Democratic voters to swarm into the country. Remember, Obama actually set up a hotline so illegals could complain if border agents weren't nice enough to them. We all know where the Democrats' sympathies lie, and their first order-of-business should they regain power would be to lighten up enforcement of immigration law.


Are you envisioning something like the Great Wall of China? Walls aren't permanent. They fall down, they are taken down.

I'm not talking 1000 years permanent. But we need something that the Democrats can't undo the second they get control, and you know they will. Beefing up the number of border agents will last only as long as the Rs retain power.



Crazy person alert! You can’t be dumb enough to think the wall will help! Most people here illegally overstay their visas.

I'm not so worried about those people. About 30 - 40% of illegals are the "illegal crossing" type, and that's where we need control. And the wall won't solve the problem completely - you're right, I'm not dumb - but it will present an obstacle while sending a strong message that this country is not looking the other way anymore. Better than setting up a hotline so illegal immigrants can voice their complaints about border agents! Obama should have just hung a big "Welcome" sign.


Uh Obama deported more than Trump and any other President!

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Should we condemn all white middle aged men every time there is a mass shooting?!

You can pick out horrible stories for every race, gender, religion, and age that exists.

Grow up and stop trying to be controversial. Your argument is tired.


Well, we certainly condemn the white middle aged men who commit the mass shootings, don't we? As we should. So why is it that you refuse to condemn the illegal immigrants who commit crimes? Why are they somehow a protected class? I don't see you condemning this guy, yet I'm sure you wrote umpteen posts regarding the Las Vegas shooter, right? But somehow, a guy who has been deported TWICE from this country, but still re-entered, has been arrested multiple times, including for driving drunk, and who has now killed two American citizens, gets a free pass from you because... why, exactly?

And as for "tired arguments," how about the one liberals constantly use in situations like this: "Well, if it hadn't been him, it would have been someone else driving drunk!" Um, WTF? If this guy hadn't been in the country, the chances of these two men being hit by a drunk driver is miniscule. And we can't do anything about our own citizens driving drunk, unfortunately. But we can certainly prevent people living here illegally from doing so. Stop making up tired, lame excuses.


HE WAS DEPORTED TWICE. No one was letting him stay. Liberals aren't arguing for open immigration but you only hear what you want to think is happening.


If not arguing for open immigration then what is the problem with Goodblates's plan or the too liberal Trump plan?
Anonymous
Here’s a great story about a great city on the border and how people feel about a new wall.

https://nyti.ms/2FKgplp
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here’s a great story about a great city on the border and how people feel about a new wall.

https://nyti.ms/2FKgplp



Forgot my quote:
Today, Jessy Zamorano, the owner and operator of Baja Arizona Tours, is struck by how her clients, many of whom are from the northeast or Midwest, react when she takes them to the fence. “Women are very much more sympathetic,” she said. “They will look at it, and some find it quite shocking and obtuse. But many of the men say, ‘build it higher.’”

When they spot some of the families reaching between steel bars to hug each other, or holding up a newborn baby for their relatives on the other side to meet, she said, “women will frequently cry.”


People who obsess about immigrants seem to forget, these are people! People with family. But family is just a sound bite to conservatives, like military and deficits.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here’s a great story about a great city on the border and how people feel about a new wall.

https://nyti.ms/2FKgplp



Forgot my quote:
Today, Jessy Zamorano, the owner and operator of Baja Arizona Tours, is struck by how her clients, many of whom are from the northeast or Midwest, react when she takes them to the fence. “Women are very much more sympathetic,” she said. “They will look at it, and some find it quite shocking and obtuse. But many of the men say, ‘build it higher.’”

When they spot some of the families reaching between steel bars to hug each other, or holding up a newborn baby for their relatives on the other side to meet, she said, “women will frequently cry.”


People who obsess about illegal immigrants seem to forget, these are people! People with family. But family is just a sound bite to conservatives, like military and deficits.

You left out the word "illegal." I fixed it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Should we condemn all white middle aged men every time there is a mass shooting?!

You can pick out horrible stories for every race, gender, religion, and age that exists.

Grow up and stop trying to be controversial. Your argument is tired.


+1

So old.
Anonymous
Right, because democracy is all about obeying the 2% to have your people and culture replaced by waves of serfs and helots whose children are indoctrinated to blame your race for all the ills of the world even as they leech off your people.

Btw, what kind of democracy is it that the 2% has more power than the 98%?

Sounds more like ethno-oligarchy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is why Democrats are fighting the wall: It's permanent. They would much rather agree to increasing the number of border agents so that if and when they get a liberal in as president, they can pull that back and make it easier for future Democratic voters to swarm into the country. Remember, Obama actually set up a hotline so illegals could complain if border agents weren't nice enough to them. We all know where the Democrats' sympathies lie, and their first order-of-business should they regain power would be to lighten up enforcement of immigration law.


Are you envisioning something like the Great Wall of China? Walls aren't permanent. They fall down, they are taken down.

I'm not talking 1000 years permanent. But we need something that the Democrats can't undo the second they get control, and you know they will. Beefing up the number of border agents will last only as long as the Rs retain power.



Crazy person alert! You can’t be dumb enough to think the wall will help! Most people here illegally overstay their visas.


I think the wall is a more effective as a symbol than it would be keeping people out.
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