Parents of little kids: What are your college savings goals?

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Anonymous wrote:My DH wants to cover 100%, I think 33% from us, 33% from the kid, 34% from scholarships is reasonable. Honestly loans aren't the worst thing that can happen to a kid and I think knowing going in that they have to pay for part of it will make them think longer and harder about public vs private, what major they want to pick and what their first job out of college will pay, the works.

I've told him that even if we hit the Powerball I'd stick to this plan, and then just pay off their loans as a graduation present. I really think having a kid be personally invested in their college education on the financial side makes them take it more seriously.


Maybe so in old days when cost was under control. With COA of 25k (instate public) to 70k (private) per year, there's no way kids can contribute in a meaningful way. Don't rely on that approach. It's a really outdated thinking.



I don't know. I think if kids are contributing (through loans) about $5-10k per year, it's meaningful for them without crushing their future with burdensome loan costs. Our plan is to fully cover in-state public. But if kids wanna go to private, I think they're gonna have to finance something like $7.5k per year. They should understand that it costs a lot more to go private.


They cannot take out student loans for $7,500 per year Until they were junior and senior years. The federal limit is $5500 the first year and $6500 the following year.

For anything beyond those amounts, you would need to take out a parent PLUS loan.


Neat. That doesn't really affect my post or my plans though. As I said, if my kids go private, they're gonna have to finance something like $7.5k per year. So, maybe they'll do $5500 in their own student loans, and cover the other $2k in some other way.


That's a reasonable amount but what is your assumption on how much your kids' private will cost?


I think $220k in 2018, which might be something like $350-450k in 2035.

I explained this up-thread, but I'm planning to have our 529 cover 100% of public in-state, maybe $120k in today's dollars or $200-300k in 2035. If the kid chooses to go private, we will have a shortfall of something like $100k in 2018 dollars (maybe $150k in 2035 dollars). That shortfall will be something we'll cover through a combination of (1) cash flow, (2) other non-529 savings, and (3) my kid's own funding (student loan or otherwise).


In other words, our deal to our kids (which will be explained when they're 15 or so) is: hey we've saved up enough money (in the 529 account) to fully cover public university. That's YOUR money. If you go to community college for 2 years or get some scholarship or something so there is extra in the 529, it's still all YOUR money. Congrats for doing well and being cost-conscious. You can save it for grad school or pay the penalty to use it for a house, or whatever. It's your choice.

If you want to go to something more expensive than public university, we'll help you do it to the best of our ability. But, you'll have to take on some of the cost of doing that on your own. Private school is more expensive, and it's YOUR choice if you want to do that more expensive thing, but you're going to bear some of the costs. We'll work with you to make sure that it's not an unreasonable cost for you to bear. And my aim would be to keep their loans below $40k total in 2018 dollars.

That said, the amount to which we agree to "help" on private school may depend on whether the private school is Harvard vs. GW. But, we shall see.
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10:01 - I went to GW on a full-tuition national merit scholarship. So it's expensive as hell, but they are fairly generous with the scholarships for kids who do well on standardized tests and have good grades. I definitely wouldn't have chosen it over Harvard, but I did get a good education there. So if your kid does well on tests, keep it in mind - he might be able to go there more cheaply than other schools that are cheaper on paper.
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Anonymous wrote:10:01 - I went to GW on a full-tuition national merit scholarship. So it's expensive as hell, but they are fairly generous with the scholarships for kids who do well on standardized tests and have good grades. I definitely wouldn't have chosen it over Harvard, but I did get a good education there. So if your kid does well on tests, keep it in mind - he might be able to go there more cheaply than other schools that are cheaper on paper.


Yeah I should clarify -- I actually didn't mean to knock GW. I'd be happy to have my kid attend GW, even more so if he gets financial aid there. I only meant in the very general sense that we'll probably take the merits of the particular private school into account as we decide how much of our own extra money we'll contribute (above and beyond the 529).
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We have pre-paid 4 years of in state tuition for each kid (2) and have an additional $80k saved per kid for room & board. Kids are 4th & 6th grade so should be enough for in state. We are in VA. With so many excellent schools in our state, we will be encouraging an in state public option. If kid decides to go private or OOS, kid will have to make up some of the difference. We will do what we can, but hard to justify OOS unless Ivy. Truly fortunate to live in a state with so many excellent options.
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Anonymous wrote:I like to give a more middle class perspective because I think it's important to see everyone's budget. I am a nurse, make 72k, and have 2 kids. Currently have no financial support from ex dh. I contribute 1200 a year per kid. So 100 a month per kiddo. It seems like peanuts comparatively but it's a sacrifice and something I am still proud of. Even if it's only a semester my kids will know that I saved their whole life for college.


You're great. Your kids will know you value their futures.
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Why is anyone saving? Just pay for it as the bills come due.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is anyone saving? Just pay for it as the bills come due.


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Anonymous wrote:Why is anyone saving? Just pay for it as the bills come due.


This bill is no different than any other bills you pay. YOu cannot pay with plans, hopes, approaches, and by saying "kids will have to contribute." It actually says "Balance for Spring Semester $29,545 due by January 20, 2018"... Twice a year. Start saving.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is anyone saving? Just pay for it as the bills come due.


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Anonymous wrote:Why is anyone saving? Just pay for it as the bills come due.


This bill is no different than any other bills you pay. YOu cannot pay with plans, hopes, approaches, and by saying "kids will have to contribute." It actually says "Balance for Spring Semester $29,545 due by January 20, 2018"... Twice a year. Start saving.


+1. The current IN-STATE cost of attendance (tuition, room, board, fees) at my beloved Alma Mater of William & Mary is $37k. That's right now. And my oldest is 9. Even in-state college tuition is no joke these days.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is anyone saving? Just pay for it as the bills come due.


This bill is no different than any other bills you pay. YOu cannot pay with plans, hopes, approaches, and by saying "kids will have to contribute." It actually says "Balance for Spring Semester $29,545 due by January 20, 2018"... Twice a year. Start saving.


+1. The current IN-STATE cost of attendance (tuition, room, board, fees) at my beloved Alma Mater of William & Mary is $37k. That's right now. And my oldest is 9. Even in-state college tuition is no joke these days.

UVA is $32K
UMD is $26K
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Anonymous wrote:Why is anyone saving? Just pay for it as the bills come due.


This bill is no different than any other bills you pay. YOu cannot pay with plans, hopes, approaches, and by saying "kids will have to contribute." It actually says "Balance for Spring Semester $29,545 due by January 20, 2018"... Twice a year. Start saving.


+1. The current IN-STATE cost of attendance (tuition, room, board, fees) at my beloved Alma Mater of William & Mary is $37k. That's right now. And my oldest is 9. Even in-state college tuition is no joke these days.


And also because, as mentioned up-thread, gains on 529 accounts are not taxed whereas other investment gains are. Over the years, that can be thousands and thousands of dollars so if you know you're going to pay for it anywhere might as well have the money grow tax free.
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Anonymous wrote:My DH wants to cover 100%, I think 33% from us, 33% from the kid, 34% from scholarships is reasonable. Honestly loans aren't the worst thing that can happen to a kid and I think knowing going in that they have to pay for part of it will make them think longer and harder about public vs private, what major they want to pick and what their first job out of college will pay, the works.

I've told him that even if we hit the Powerball I'd stick to this plan, and then just pay off their loans as a graduation present. I really think having a kid be personally invested in their college education on the financial side makes them take it more seriously.


There are far fewer scholarships out there than you would think.
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Anonymous wrote:My DH wants to cover 100%, I think 33% from us, 33% from the kid, 34% from scholarships is reasonable. Honestly loans aren't the worst thing that can happen to a kid and I think knowing going in that they have to pay for part of it will make them think longer and harder about public vs private, what major they want to pick and what their first job out of college will pay, the works.

I've told him that even if we hit the Powerball I'd stick to this plan, and then just pay off their loans as a graduation present. I really think having a kid be personally invested in their college education on the financial side makes them take it more seriously.


There are far fewer scholarships out there than you would think.


+1. Two issues with that approach - 1) you kid won't be able to pay 33% (he is not allowed to borrow that much) and 2) unless your DC is a high stat kid going to below 1st/2nd tier schools, merit scholarship covering 34% is unlikely.
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$200k present value for each kid. RIght now kids are 2yo and 4yo so lots of wood to chop and time for costs to go up.
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